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jimh posted 10-23-2011 09:30 AM ET (US)   Profile for jimh   Send Email to jimh  
Woman Overboard
The weekend of October 8 and 9 was a particularly warm and sunny one, and many boaters took advantage of the fine fall weather to make one last outing. Kevin Albus was out in Lake St. Clair with his new boat, and said the lake was a "madhouse" of boats.

A Toledo, Ohio couple, their family, and some friends took a last-trip-of-the-season cruise on Sunday, October 9, from their homeport at the Toledo Yacht Club, across Southwest Lake Erie, to Monroe, Michigan, where they had dinner. On the return trip, the boat was being piloted from its flying bridge, and a group was sitting on foredeck. The captain's wife was in the cockpit and planning to return to the bow by walking on the boat's gunwales, when she lost her balance and fell overboard into Lake Erie about a mile off the Michigan shore.

No one saw or heard the woman fall into the water, and apparently the group on the bow thought she was with the group on the flying bridge, and vice versa. The 32-foot Marinette cruiser continued on for about an hour before the woman was missed aboard.

Once in the water, the 52-year-old woman realized no one on the boat could hear her cries for help. She composed herself and swam about a mile to shore, using the lights at a DTE [power plant] near Monroe as a target. The swim took about [two-hours-thirty minutes, as best as I can figure] in the 60-degree water. After she came ashore at the DTE facility, a DTE employee found her, and she was given some coffee and warmed with blankets. She called her husband on the boat on a cellular telephone to let him know she was OK. She was later examined at a local hospital and found to have [some degree of] hypothermia.

More at:
http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2011/10/11/ Woman-swims-to-shore-after-fall-into-Lake-Erie.html
http://www.freep.com/VideoNetwork/1215230258001/ Woman-falls-overboard-in-Lake-Erie-swims-to-shore
http://www.clickondetroit.com/video/29444435/index.html

K Albus posted 10-23-2011 10:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
Here's a picture I took of the DTE plant from my Boston Whaler this past summer in about the same area where the woman fell overboard. http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t329/kalbus/ Lake%20Erie%20May%207%202011/CalmDayonLakeErie.jpg .

Here's a snippet of the chart for the area: http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t329/kalbus/Miscellaneous/ LaPlaisanceBay.jpg . The woman fell overboard after the boat she was riding on exited the River Raisin channel and turned south. The stacks of the DTE plant are shown on the chart at the mouth of the River Raisin.

home Aside posted 10-23-2011 10:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Her husband who was piloting the boat works for the Monroe County Sheriff's Department Marine Division, that covers ther area where the incident occurred. Says he's been on numerous unsuccessful searches for lost overboard boaters...
WT posted 10-23-2011 04:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
Lucky lady. I wonder if alcohol was involved in this accident?

Warren

lizard posted 10-23-2011 06:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for lizard  Send Email to lizard     
You know, Warren, I wondered the same thing, out to dinner, etc. If she did indeed have alcohol on board, then she is very lucky to have survived in 60 degree water and was capable of swimming a mile in open water. The article I read said she had advanced, not mild, hypothermia.
Buckda posted 10-23-2011 06:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Marinette's are nice boats, but the smaller ones I've been on have a very narrow way forward to the foredeck. It is easy to imagine she lost balance and forgot to give one hand for the boat whether she'd been drinking or not...especially in the dark...and on the choppy waters of Lake Erie.

Glad it turned out okay.

K Albus posted 10-23-2011 07:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
Although the woman in the report swam to shore, she probably could have walked most of the way. In the area where she fell overboard, the water is no more than five feet deep for at least a mile from shore. (It doesn't show well on the chart snippet that I posted.) This news report states that on some days you could walk out into the water for two miles: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2011110110342 .

On the day in question, the water in that section of Lake Erie was relatively calm, waves of 0.1 meter or less. Nevertheless, it would be a harrowing experience to fall overboard, in the dark, in cold water, more than a mile from shore.

WT posted 10-23-2011 07:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
I'm going to guess she fell off at green marker #5 (about 1 mile offshore) in the Monroe Harbor Channel.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/warrent/Misc/LakeErie.gif

WT posted 10-23-2011 08:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
"Amy Nearhood of Temperance had gone to the back deck to grab a blanket when she was accidentally bumped and knocked overboard by another passenger near the River Raisin, Plath said. Neither the other passenger nor her husband, Richard Nearhood, realized she had fallen off the back of the 32-foot 1978 Marinette pleasure boat until they were well on their way to the Toledo-area marina where they dock, Plath said."

I'm sure alcohol wasn't a factor. :-)

jechura posted 10-23-2011 08:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for jechura  Send Email to jechura     
Another missing boater out of Sandusky, Ohio. The amount of Response equipment is unbelievable.

http://coastguardnews.com/27789/2011/10/22/

PeteB88 posted 10-23-2011 08:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for PeteB88  Send Email to PeteB88     
She's got to be awesome -
Owtrayj25 posted 10-23-2011 08:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Owtrayj25  Send Email to Owtrayj25     
Alcohol involved????I would have thought just the opposite. Not to many folks could have swam a mile in open 60 degree water, much less if they were drunk.
jimh posted 10-23-2011 11:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I have not seen any account, including the woman's own account, in which she is described as having been knocked overboard by another passenger. The woman herself says she lost her grip on the railing and fell in.

To add a bit of the bizarre to the story, the woman apparently fell in while clutching some sort of a goofy hat and a large plastic mug, and when she came ashore she still had them with her.

We used to do a lot of boating after dark, but lately we seldom are underway after dark, unless we just went out to watch the sun set.

WT posted 10-23-2011 11:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
Right, she swam a mile while clutching a donkey hat and plastic cup. The contents of the plastic cup and donkey hat must have been very valuable.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/warrent/Misc/Donkeyhatandcup.gif

WT posted 10-24-2011 12:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
She fell overboard about a mile from shore. The rescuers found the boat about 2.5 miles offshore. Why didn't the boat follow it's GPS tracks back the 2.5 miles?

jimh posted 10-24-2011 12:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
By the way, another thing we used to when boating was have a beer or two sometimes while out on the boat. I can't say we never do that anymore, but it is extremely rare, and usually limited to one beer, and usually when we're going to be at anchor for a few hours before getting back underway. These days, we generally do not consume any sort of alcohol when boating until we are finished with engines and made fast to the pier for the night.

jimh posted 10-24-2011 12:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Warren--I was thinking the same thing. If you lose something overboard, it is likely to be back there somewhere in your wake.

There are two major ironies in this tale. The woman lives in Temperance, and her husband, who didn't notice she fell overboard, is a (part-time) marine officer for the Monroe County Sheriff's Office.

jimh posted 10-24-2011 12:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I changed the length of the swim. The husband says it was a hour before they noticed she was missing. The woman is described as coming ashore 90-minutes after the search was started. That sounds like a two-hour thirty-minute swim to me. That's good endurance for a 52-year-old who probably does not regularly swim long distances.

I wonder what the wind and wave conditions were that night in the area. Does anyone recall?

WT posted 10-24-2011 12:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
The Monroe Harbor Channel is about 3.1 miles and the boat was found about 2.5 miles Southeast of the River Basin. And she fell overboard about a mile out.

"Richard Nearhood called 911 from the lake at 9:04 p.m. to report his wife missing. Rescuers found their boat stopped about 2 1/2 miles southeast of the River Raisin, Plath said."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/warrent/Misc/ MonroeHarborChannel-1.gif

Looks pretty easy to go back in the Monroe Harbor Channel, even if they didn't have a GPS.


WT posted 10-24-2011 01:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
Waves at that time were .1 meters.

Information from "Station 45005 (LLNR 5555) - W ERIE 28NM Northwest of Cleveland, OH Image indicating link to RSS feed of recent meteorological observations for station 45005".

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/realtime2/45005.txt

Look at October 9th.

Warren

WT posted 10-24-2011 02:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
They like to party.

Enlarge the middle picture and you'll see almost everyone is holding a beer.

http://www.toledoblade.com/North/2011/08/17/ Bedford-couple-get-star-visit.html

The comments are interesting.

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2011/10/10/ Temperance-woman-treated-for-hypothermia-after-fall-from-boat.html

Anyway, it's okay to have fun on the water. Just try to be safe.

Warren

jimh posted 10-24-2011 08:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I see in the newer TOLEDO BLADE account that the accidental bumping of another passenger is now in the story. That is quite odd because in the on-camera interview the woman never mentions that.
K Albus posted 10-24-2011 08:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
Jim, the original written account in the Free Press also mentioned the bumping. See the link I posted above.
K Albus posted 10-24-2011 09:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
I don't think it's safe to assume that the boat in question was equipped with a GPS chartplotter. In my experience, a lot of so-called "cocktail cruisers" are not equipped with GPS chartplotters. A lot these boats rarely leave the dock, and when they do, they typically only travel a few miles to a favored beach or swimming area, and then return to the dock later in the day.

Warren, your guess that the boat did not travel the entire distance of the Monroe Harbor channel before turning south is a good one. I would guess, however, that they turned south much closer to, or even beyond, Buoy #3. Most boaters familiar with the area are aware of the shallow water off of Raisin Point and steer well clear of the area.

In the summertime, when the walleye season starts to heat up, a Sea Tow boat will sometimes sit right at the edge of the shallow water southeast of Raisin Point and wait for work. It's amazing how many people will blow right by the tow boat and ground themselves in the shallow water. Bolles Harbor, on the lower left corner of the first chart section posted by Warren, has a major launch facility which is used by hundreds of fisherman each day during the height of the season. Some of the best walleye fishing in Lake Erie can be found in Brest Bay, which is in the upper right section of the chart.

Moose posted 10-24-2011 09:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Moose  Send Email to Moose     
Almost everyone is holding a beer?

I may be wrong, but I count 14 people that appear to have reached drinking age. I only count 4 of those people holding someting that could be a beer.

Tohsgib posted 10-24-2011 11:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
Who gives a crap that passengers on a 32' PEASURE boat might be holding a beer after dinner on a weekend night? Last I looked it was/is not illegal to posses alcohol on a boat as a passenger.

An hour passes before you miss your wife on a 32' boat? Great job there Cappy who was most likely sober being a water cop. People are usually not allowed to ride on the bow of a boat underway unless it has designated seating. People, especially the owner, should not be walking on that 6" wide gunwale at night alone. It took her 2.5 hours to swim a mile, hope the current was strong as most people swim at least 1 mile an hour even doing the breast or back stroke. To sum it up it sounds like a bunch of stupid people, not drunks.

WT posted 10-24-2011 12:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
"They want to make things very clear: Mr. Nearhood did not push his wife overboard. She was not bumped by anyone. They were not drunk. And she is not angry that the boat didn't stop because she knows that the engines are loud and no one could have heard her screams."

http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111014/NEWS01/ 710149989

jimh posted 10-24-2011 12:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Let A be the point where the woman falls overboard.

One hour later the boat crew realizes she is missing. Let's call this point B.

Point A, where she falls overboard is described as 1-mile offshore.

Point B, where she is noticed missing is 2.5-miles offshore.

This means that in the hour between the fall and being noticed, the boat only traveled 1.5-miles. Is that a correct inference? It seems like a very slow rate of forward progress for the boat.

K Albus posted 10-24-2011 12:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
The boat was traveling parallel to the shore and was likely 2.5 miles offshore for a long period of time.
jimh posted 10-24-2011 01:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Kevin--Thanks for resolving the conundrum.

I don't quite understand the information value of giving a position of the boat relative to the shoreline if there is nothing in that position that explains the distance from where the woman fell overboard. Maybe it sounds better than to say the boat traveled five or six miles (or more) in the hour that elapsed between the fall and the crew's discovery.

Tohsgib posted 10-24-2011 01:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
I'll just stick with stupidity....nothing adds up here.
K Albus posted 10-24-2011 01:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
I won't go as far as stupidity. I'll just stick with "accidents happen."
andygere posted 10-24-2011 02:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
From this photo of a 32 foot Marinette, it appears that there is a seating area on the foredeck. Access to it is by a rather narrow walkway, protected by a low rail. There is a decent looking handhod along the top of the trunk cabin, but it does not look like there is a hand along the bridge structure between the cockpit and the trunk cabin. Walking along this area could be treacherous, with the railing too low to serve as a hand hold, but at just about the right height to take your legs out from beneath you if the boat rolled or pitched unexpectedly.

http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1/81/8/888108_0_030820101723_1. jpg?f=/1/81/8/888108_0_030820101723_1.jpg&w=600&h=450&t=1280885012000

I'm sure the boat designer would say that access to the bow was intended from the square hatch in the deck, but the convenience and practicality of that just about guarantee that folks will walk along the gunwale to get forward.

Credit the victim with keeping a cool head and saving her own life. I imagine her familiarity with those waters helped her make a good decision in terms of the best direction to swim.

Binkster posted 10-24-2011 02:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster  Send Email to Binkster     
All accidents unless they are an "act of God" are caused by stupidity. Also stupidity is on the uprise, maybe even an epidemic of stupidity. They keep wiping themselves out, but apparently not as fast as new ones are being born.
K Albus posted 10-24-2011 02:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
This picture posted by Warren shows the handrails on the actual boat involved in this incident: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/warrent/Misc/Donkeyhatandcup.gif
Binkster posted 10-24-2011 02:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster  Send Email to Binkster     
[Walking along this area could be treacherous]

I believe this walkway is known as a "cat walk" in nautical terms. The name is self explanatory. There probably should be a handrail just below the bridge window, however there is a railing the full length of the cat walk. Walking a cat walk in the dark is not smart, but I think stupidity is not the total cause. Could be a medical condition or a few beers.

andygere posted 10-24-2011 02:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Good spot Kevin. I wonder if she was holding on to it, or if she had her hands filled with a blanket, mug and donkey hat?
Tohsgib posted 10-24-2011 02:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
Anyone who carries a large mug has it filled with something tasty...and alcoholic. Especially somebody wearing a hat at night unless a ski hat for warmth. Somebody that swims with a large empty mug and a large hat for 2.5 hours is either drunk or stupid.

As far as the Cappy goes, he can easily see who is on deck and who is on the aft deck. An hour on that small of a boat without noticing your WIFE is missing is not very good seamanship in my opinion. He had to have seen her get up and walk aft. The fact he never saw her walk to the bow again...nevermind. Hell Natalie Wood did this decades ago at the dock for God's sake. My point is that a 32' boat is NOT large and the Captain and passengers should have notice sooner or even heard a large splash. Maybe I am just overly cautious of my surroundings when Captaining my vessels.

andygere posted 10-24-2011 03:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Key piece of information here, reported by the victim:

quote:
She was holding onto the upper rail when the boat suddenly hit a wave, causing her to be thrown into the water backwards.

I agree with Nick though, an hour is a long time on a 32 foot boat for someone to be missing before anyone noticed.

WT posted 10-24-2011 05:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
Sorry but I just can't believe that she swam a mile in 58 degree water one handed, while clutching a plastic cup and goofy donkey hat.

Let each of us jump into the lake about 1 mile out and let's see how many of us can make it to shore while clutching the hat and cup.

It just doesn't sound reasonable to me.

Warren

andygere posted 10-24-2011 06:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Where did the information on the hat and the cup come from?
WT posted 10-24-2011 06:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
http://www.freep.com/VideoNetwork/1215230258001/ Woman-falls-overboard-in-Lake-Erie-swims-to-shore

She said she clung onto to the cup and donkey hat.

Warren

K Albus posted 10-24-2011 06:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
I hope you guys aren't getting headaches thinking up possible conspiracy theories here. A woman fell off a boat, swam to shore, and everybody is fine. There have been no allegations of foul play, there's no missing body, and nobody's dead. Why does everybody assume that something fishy is going on here? See Occam's razar.
K Albus posted 10-24-2011 06:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
Otherwise known as Occam's razor.
WT posted 10-24-2011 07:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
If you were boating that night, how fast would you be going? 5, 10, 15 or 20 mph?

It's about a 20 mile trip from Clamdiggers in Monroe back to their dock at the Ottawa River Yacht Club in Toledo.

Is the river from Clamdiggers to Lake Erie a no wake zone? I'm guessing that if it is, the captain hit the gas as he entered Lake Erie and that's when she lost her balance and fell overboard. She said she fell on her back, which I feel is unusual if she is leaning forward while trying to grab the handrail.....

Sherlock Holmes. :-)

gusgus posted 10-24-2011 07:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for gusgus  Send Email to gusgus     
Amazing the comments in the article and some here as well. Judgement without fact is where humans fail humanity.

The hateful things begun in news stories and comments of those news stories were terrible to read. Sometimes I am so disappointed in people.

That woman did an amazing thing, remained in control, continued to do exactly the right thing. Save herself.

Binkster posted 10-24-2011 07:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster  Send Email to Binkster     
Well, as there were no injuries and no one died, there probably was no investigation by law enforcement. The papers reported what they were told by the people involved, and were obligated to report it as they heard it, even though it is an unbelievable cockamamie story. If some are gullible to believe it, so be it. Probably just a bunch of drunks partying, one fell off, was lucky to come out of it OK. ..... If they were sober enough to realize they lost one of their party, drove back and picked her up, there would not even be a story. As others got involved, they had to come up with something even if it was unbelievable. they might have even gotten advice from the husbands part time employer.
WT posted 10-24-2011 08:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
Amy Nearhood says she was not bumped and after the boat hit a wave she fell off the side of the boat onto here back into the water. According to NOAA, waves that night measured .1 meter.

http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111014/NEWS01/ 710149989

Richard Nearhood works as a part-time marine officer for the Monroe County Sheriff's Office.

Monroe County Sheriff’s Office Sgt. John Plath says Amy got bumped and fell overboard at the back of the boat.

http:/ / www. freep. com/ article/ 20111010/ NEWS06/ 111010007/ Boater-5 2-swims-shore-after-falling-into-Lake-Erie?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext% 7CFRONTPAGE

The story is inconsistent.

Warren

andygere posted 10-24-2011 08:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
The plastic cup appeared to have a lid fastened on it, perhaps it she used it to provide a bit of flotation? The hat could have been worn to keep her head warm, helping stave off hypothermia. I seriously doubt that the woman who fell off the boat was inebriated. It's unlikely that she would have been able to make the swim, and avoid hypothermia if she had been. From the skipper's perspective, it's possible that he never knew she had come aft in the first place. In order to preserve his night vision, I suspect the foredeck was not lit, and perhaps the cockpit as well. Those on the foredeck may have assumed she joined her husband on the bridge. This is an easy story to believe, I'm glad that it turned out well for all involved. It illustrates just how quickly things can go wrong on the water.
jimh posted 10-24-2011 08:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Re the hat and mug--she is pictured holding on to them following the incident. Either she had duplicates of them or those are the ones she was holding when she fell overboard.

Originally I posted this because I though it was of interest on several topics:

--accidents happen; you can fall in; maybe you should wear that PFD with the strobe light attached when boating at night; (you have one, don't you?)

--even (what we would like to think of as) sophisticated boaters--a law enforcement professional from a marine patrol--can have strange things happen that are beyond their control, particularly at night, on their boat;

--if you do fall in, and you can see the shore, it looks like a good move to head in that direction rather than tread water waiting for the boat to come back;

--the drive or instinct for self preservation can be a strong motivator in adverse situations.

Here's my take-away from this:

--I need a strobe light attachment for the PDF's if we are boating at night;

--I am going to keep a better watch on the crew and where they are at all times when boating;

--if any crew is going on the foredeck or making any sort of maneuver where they could fall overboard, the boat speed should be dead slow, and the skipper must stay in visual contact all the time.

Binkster posted 10-25-2011 04:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster  Send Email to Binkster     
Good advice, but if you and your party are drunk, it all goes out the window,(or over the side).
Tohsgib posted 10-26-2011 12:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
I really don't care about these people or the story. I just commented that some things were not adding up and people kept asking me why so I made more than one post.

My parents always forbade me from going into the ocean in my boat as a kid as it was "dangerous". Yet I was allowed to cruise the entire bay. Personally I find their reasoning flawed because if something really bad did happen, I could always swim to shore in the ocean as I was never more than a few hundred yards off. The bay I could be miles from land.

lizard posted 10-27-2011 02:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for lizard  Send Email to lizard     
I agree, the account of events does not add up. She is lucky to be alive, if we follow the rule of 50's. She was in the water 90 minutes, in the dark, in 58 degree water.

I used to distance swim at a local beach, with friends. There were marked 1/4 mile and 1/2 mile buoys. I was not as strong as the others and would do the 1/4 mile each way, while they did the half. If the water was 66 degrees or less, I wore a spring suit. I did this M-F @ 5 pm, for years. I was in my mid-20's and conditioned to the swim and the location. Swimming in the dark, in the same location, was an entirely different event. You inevitable fail to swim a straight line. It is almost twice as much effort to stay on course.

I also used to take a canoe to a local outdoor concert venue on the water. There were dozens of folks-kayaks, RIBS, small boats, etc. all tied up, watching for free. I launched from the same location every time, did it dozens of times. The evening always included a glass or two of wine. One night, on my return, I found myself over a mile off my launch point. Several key houses/landmarks were poorly lit that night.

The articles do NOT describe her as a seasoned distance swimmer. You can almost be certain alcohol played a factor, and that the ER that evaluated her did an ETOH level, to assist them with her medical management. We will not know those results because of HIPAA and a lack of investigation/charges.

The waves were supposedly 0.1 meters that night, about 4". That seems insignificant on a 32 ft. boat, with an unknown to me, beam.

She is lucky, but the account simply doesn't jive from my perspective.

Binkster posted 10-27-2011 09:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster  Send Email to Binkster     
Maybe the whole story was fabricated. The boat might have been close to shore, and she might be a drunk and annoying person and was pushed or jumped overboard and waded ashore at the point she was picked up, and made the story up to protect others on the boat.
OR again the boat was close to shore, and she might have had to pee, and becuase the head was clogged, she jumped overboard in the shallow water, couldn't get her fat self aboard again, so she waded ashore with a cocktail in hand and a funny hat.
jimh posted 10-28-2011 09:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
If there is a conspiracy to conceal what happened, it is going to have to a good one. I think there were a dozen people aboard the boat that night.
gnr posted 10-28-2011 10:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for gnr    
Jebus Lizzy,

What do you thnk the chances are that alcohol played a part in your conception?

Is that why you are always harping on this?

LOL

Plotman posted 10-28-2011 11:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Plotman  Send Email to Plotman     
There was a similar story several years ago about a guy who fell off an oreboat in Lake Superior and swam to shore.

There were lots of questions about that as well.

That said, every August about 300 people swim the 2.5 miles from Bayfield to Madeline Island in the Point to La Pointe swim. I've never done, it, but they come in all shapes and sizes. So what she says she did is plausible - especially if the water was wading depth for a good chunk of the mile.

K Albus posted 10-28-2011 11:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
One fact that has not been reported in this story is that the DTE power plant in Monroe has a warm water discharge in the area where the woman swam to shore. It is very possible that the water temperature where she was swimming was much higher than the general water temperature for Lake Erie on the night in question. Also, the water temperature in that specific area may have been higher due to the facts that the water there is shallow, the sun had been shining for at least two days, and winds were relatively light. There is no weather buoy in the immediate area from which the water temperature could be obtained.

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