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contender posted 12-06-2011 08:56 PM ET (US)   Profile for contender   Send Email to contender  
I have been one to always look for new ideas and different innovations and equipment in boating. I would like to know just what are the different things--not factory equipment-- that you have done to your whaler and why. And for what purpose?

I have installed a 5-gallon freshwater shower on my 16. The water tank fits under my console, we use it after diving, or just on a hot day, works out great.

I moved the kill switch on my son's 11-footer to the console. He wears the kill switch cord on his ankle while underway. This way if he is by himself and falls over board or something else, the engine will cut off.

wstr75 posted 12-06-2011 09:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for wstr75  Send Email to wstr75     
Great safety set-up for your son, Contender. I applaud your shower apparatus, too.
Bill in NC
daveweight posted 12-07-2011 03:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for daveweight  Send Email to daveweight     
A foot throttle and a trim tab lever behind the steering wheel. It means you don't have to take a hand off the wheel in rough water.
Dave Weight
fishgutz posted 12-07-2011 08:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for fishgutz  Send Email to fishgutz     
RAM Mounts! I use them in different location on my (small/limited space) Dauntless 14 for my handheld GPS, rearview mirror and camera. They are pretty inexpensive and very versatile.
Jefecinco posted 12-07-2011 10:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Stainless steel rod holders attached to the stanchions. Because neither of my boats have space for below the gunnel rod holders this allows my guests and me to take three or four rods when fishing without cluttering up the walking spaces when launching or docking.

Butch

andrey320 posted 12-07-2011 11:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for andrey320  Send Email to andrey320     
Some really cool ideas here!

I've installed a "wakeboard holder" that holds the board over the motor. It's basically two aluminum tubes mounted to the inside lifting eyes on the transom. It also serves as a spoiler, motor shade, and possibly reduces engine noise….

Chuck Tribolet posted 12-07-2011 11:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
http://www.garlic.com/~triblet/whaler/

Chuck

Binkster posted 12-07-2011 11:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster    
Hey Dave, can you post a picture of your foot throttle. I'm thinking about installing one in my Whaler, but I've only seen them on go-fast boats. do you have a center console boat. Is it tiresome to keep your foot on the throttle when your just cruising slowly. Do you have cruise control so you can take your foot off?
kwik_wurk posted 12-07-2011 12:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for kwik_wurk  Send Email to kwik_wurk     
While not earth shattering, I added sticky backed velcro to the forward bow locker (inside lip) on the Montauk. Keeps it from banging up and down in rough water. And a side benefit is it has kept the hinge screws from working loose.

I also installed several straps under the cushion of the RPS. On the underside of the RPS but forward of the fuel tanks I have strapped in a manual bilge pump and gaff/club. (You don't know they are there unless you reach underneath.)

And best for last...There are a few mid 80's Montauks that have an matching desert tan molded aft cover/bench. It is a molded fiberglass piece that rests on the splashwell and stanchion lip. It is strong enough to support a 250lb person, and covers all the aft wiring/throttle cables etc. Also provides space to store a battery and other gear. (However I keep the my battery in the console.) Looks like this: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage33.html -- I can take no credit for this, but I took some time hunting for a boat that had one.

In general I try and keep my boat as OEM as possible and drill as little as possible.

L H G posted 12-07-2011 02:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for L H G    
I raise all 1973-1982 center consoles 6", all 1983 & later center consoles 4", and all RPS seats 6". I have designed teak "block and beam" risers for the purpose. The original dsigns were too low for tall people.

This completely changes and improves the feel and scale of the boat, and the installations looks factory. An example:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v429/lgoltz/Outrage%2018/?action=view& current=IMG_0917.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v429/lgoltz/Montauk%2017/?action=view& current=Scan_Pic0037.jpg

But otherwise I pretty much try to keep the boats original and true to Whaler's design intentions.

tedious posted 12-07-2011 02:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for tedious  Send Email to tedious     
For my SuperSport 15:

- raised entire interior (console and seats) 2" for greater comfort for tall people.
- installed 2" deeper storage compartment under and behind rear seat (replaced the stock plastic with a new piece) - gives a lot more usable storage
- installed a folding seatback on the port side of the front seat.
- replaced the black battery box that came with the boat with a tan one - close enough to desert tan that it looks nice.
- added footman loops and straps to hold down the two portable tanks in the stern well.
- added an electric horn, with pushbutton on the dash in place of the lower pull switch.
- turned a mahogany center cap for the steering wheel - no purpose, it just looks good.

The boat still looks very close to stock, but people who know Whalers have complimented me on the improvements.

Tim

daveweight posted 12-07-2011 03:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for daveweight  Send Email to daveweight     
Hi Binkster
Our boat is an SL16 twin console with a Hotfoot foot throttle mounted on a wedge of hardwood to get the foot position correct. It is no harder to do than driving a car, the only concession we made was to use solid stainless inner cable rather than a bowden cable as it seems to last longer, you get millimetric throttle control with both hands remaining on the steering wheel. Pictures may have to wait a while due to the weather.
Dave Weight
daveweight posted 12-07-2011 03:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for daveweight  Send Email to daveweight     
And a bait prep board on top of the stainless A frame, makes for a nice comfy height for baiting up hooks.
Dave Weight
Binkster posted 12-07-2011 03:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster    
Larry, how do you fasten the blocks to the floor, really long screws through the blocks?
Binkster posted 12-07-2011 03:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster    
Dave, just curious, are you driving on the port or starboard side? LOL
David Pendleton posted 12-07-2011 05:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
One of the best things I've installed on my boat was a 12v fan in the cabin.
L H G posted 12-07-2011 05:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for L H G    
Tedious - That's a nice idea to raise a Sport/Super Sport interior. I agree it's also too low. I would like to see some photos.

Rich - The "blocks" are deeply counterbored to receive the 1/4" (#14) x 2" screws. They go right into the original holes in the boat floor, except for the center portion over the "beam". Four screws are used in each block. The unused original floor screw holes are filled with a same size 3/4" long screw, countersunk flush. The beam is then screwed to each block with four flathead #14 x 3" screws, countersunk flush. These are located so that they will not show underneath the console supports, which is then attached to the top of the beam with the original #14 x 1" screws used by Whaler. The whole assembly is rock-solid and secure, with no movement of the console at all, regardless of conditions.

This detail provides some extra storage under the console, and makes access to rigging and wiring MUCH easier to work on.

Jessielove posted 12-07-2011 10:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jessielove  Send Email to Jessielove     
My father had a stern drive whaler for a while; I added an auxiliary power trim/tilt switch on the outside of the transom so he could adjust the lower unit from outside the boat (on the trailer) instead of having to climb up inside the boat. If I was to do this again, I would fabricate a wireless control.

I raised the entire interior of a super sport 13 two inches a number of years ago. I may have a picture someplace if anyone is interested. (I just remade most of the pieces taller).

I do some trailer upgrades including stainless fasteners and lever operated adjustable bunks. They allow you to lower the rear of a bunk so boat slides on trailer rollers with no friction from the bunk against the hull. Makes it very easy to launch or retrieve a boat from a shallow ramp where the boat is not floating. I copied this design from a 1950s - 1960s Holsclaw boat trailer my father once owned. I also add a bow tie down cable to keep my boats from rolling forward on the trailer in a panic stop.

I build custom outriggers and fishing rods, and made a really nice set of outriggers from very heavy duty Lamiglass surf rod blanks. To make the mounts I bend some exhaust pipe that just fits inside the flush mount rod holders that hold the blanks vertically when running When you want to fish, just lift them an inch or so and rotate them to a fixed position (I cut into the bottom of the pipe to engage the rod holder alignment pin) so the blank is perpendicular to the hull and elevated about 15 -20 degrees upward from the surface of the water. They are about as portable as a large two-piece surf rod with a very large reel attached and tend to give a more realistic lure movement than aluminum outriggers. For a custom touch I usually weave the name of the boat in thread onto the blanks above the pipes and finish the pipes in a powdercoat color that closely matches some trim color on the boat.

I have made a lot of custom mounts for friends who are members of a couple fishing clubs I belong to, sort of a hobby of mine… I like to fabricate pipes that slide into flush mount rod holders and attach nice veneer grade teak, mahogany, or lacewood platforms to them that get 8-10 coats of high gloss with final polish. Then I mount 2-3 adjustable rod holders to the platforms. This makes it quite easy to turn a family boat into a serious fishing boat and back in seconds. I have sets for a variety of fishing scenarios. Some are for holding 3 rods used with side planers; others hold two very heavy duty rod holders for trolling with diving planes. I make it a goal when I rig a boat for friends to fabricate a way to remove any fishing item from a boat in less than 10 seconds (even downriggers). It can take a lot of thought, but in my view one of the worst things you can do to a whaler is poke a lot of unnecessary holes into a whaler hull. I try to use railings and flush mount rodholders whenever possible as attachment points for my quick disconnect mounts I fabricate.

elaelap posted 12-07-2011 10:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Here's part of a thread I posted a year or so ago about two nice non-OE mods: a great aluminum cooler chock and hinged RPS legs --

--elaelap posted 11-19-2010 11:49 AM ET (US)
-----------------------------------------------------------Here's a shot of a great bracket I bought from Dave/buckda when he was parting out 'Gambler,' his beautiful Outrage 18. It's perfect for my 1982 Montauk, and I wasn't at all afraid of drilling some holes in my boat's deck, just very, very careful about sealing 'em up properly (I used 5200--bombproof). I've also seen very nice teak chocks, but this custom aluminum bracket means doing away with the troublesome bungie cord attachments necessary with the chocks if you boat in lumpy seas.
This bracket was manufactured by a company in Kemah, Texas, I think. If buckda picks up on this thread I'll bet he could give you more info (or you could e-mail him if interested).

[url]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/ BirdRocksalmonandBWsJuly2010038.jpg[/url]


--mgeiger posted 11-19-2010 12:14 PM ET (US)
-----------------------------------------------------------Damn fellas- thanks for the effort in getting a link up. That's a nice piece of hardware. I guess there may be a compromise when trying to achieve "secure" and "no drilling".

--Jeff posted 11-19-2010 02:31 PM ET (US)
-----------------------------------------------------------Tony,
What's with the locking hasp on the back of the RPS leg? Does it have a hinge of the front leg and you unlock the back to flip the entire seat forward?

--elaelap posted 11-19-2010 03:13 PM ET (US)
-----------------------------------------------------------Sharp eyes! You got it, Jeff, and a very handy little mod indeed. The seller actually apologized for that modification, worried I guess that I was some sort of OE absolutist who would object to the sacred RPS legs being cut in that fashion. The job was done very well; the locking hasps (or whatever you call 'em) are top notch marine quality stainless; and the cuts at the bottom of the legs are clean and snug, so once the hasps are clicked shut, the seat is as firm and sturdy as the un-altered RPS was in my old Outrage 18. Sure makes it easy to fill up that 19-gallon tank under the seat.
Tony

--Jeff posted 11-20-2010 07:59 AM ET (US)
-----------------------------------------------------------Tony,
That is a great modifaction and that is coming from a guy who loves his OEM Whalers. I have only seen something like this done once before only it was at the underside of the seat and not at the floor.

elaelap posted 12-07-2011 10:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
[url]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/ BirdRocksalmonandBWsJuly2010038.jpg[/url]
elaelap posted 12-07-2011 11:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Hmmm...
Sorry, here's one more try with that photo:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/ BirdRocksalmonandBWsJuly2010038.jpg
wstr75 posted 12-07-2011 11:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for wstr75  Send Email to wstr75     
LHG, do you sell the console and seat risers that you designed? I have a 1983 Montauk and even though am only 5' 9" (was an inch taller in my youth), a higher seat and console would be preferred. If you don't sell them, would you share your design information so that I can get a set made for my boat by someone like Mike at Nautical Wood?
Bill in NC
Jerry Townsend posted 12-08-2011 01:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
I have not built it yet - my first project for next summer. I will modify the RFS in my '96 17 Outrage so that the seat will hinge revealing a vented stainless storage compartment - about 9",deep padded with foam, and lockable on each end. I think this would be ideal for storing radios, gps, charts, cameras, binoculars, et el. - outa sight and outa reach.

Basically it only requires a good, heavy piano hinge on the seat. The stainless storage box will be made up and welded and the storage box will be welded to the existing FRG supporting structure. ---- Jerry/Idaho

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daveweight posted 12-08-2011 02:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for daveweight  Send Email to daveweight     
Hi Binkster
Not so funny as it sounds, the steering position is to starboard but we do actually drive on the other side of the river to you as we found out when we attended a boating course with a friend. He had been doing all of his revision for the course from the boat owners manual which happened to be a Larson so he got everything completely the wrong way round for the UK.
Dave Weight
tombro posted 12-08-2011 06:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for tombro  Send Email to tombro     
I added a Schmitt destroyer wheel with Edson power knob in SS. A year later replaced the stock helmseat with an Arrigoni Design teak ladderback chair. Functional, comfy and very yachty looking in our 210 Ventura.
Binkster posted 12-08-2011 09:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster    
Dave sez; (but we do actually drive on the other side of the river--)
I think I would have a difficult time learning that.
jimh posted 12-08-2011 12:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Perhaps we could just describe the modifications made in REPAIRS/MODS. The topic of this discussion is much too broad to be manageable. The scope can expand to include everything ever done to a Boston Whaler.
daveweight posted 12-08-2011 01:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for daveweight  Send Email to daveweight     
Lets face it, in the Southern hemisphere they drive their boats upside down so if they can cope why should we worry.
Dave Weight
Binkster posted 12-08-2011 03:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster    
There you go, driving a boat upside down is impossible. That statement only helps to prove the earth is flat.

Rich (Chairman of the Flat earth Society)

Binkster posted 12-08-2011 03:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster    
jimh sez;
(The scope can expand to include everything ever done to a Boston Whaler.)

This thread would be more interesting if it included everything ever done IN a Boston Whaler.
But anyway, this thread is generating more interest than most right now, not much Whalering stuff going on at this time of year.

gnr posted 12-08-2011 04:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for gnr    
quote:
not much Whalering stuff going on at this time of year.

Dude.... I'm still fishing up heya in Vermont. If I was retired and lived in FLA I wouldn't have any time to share my wisdom here. LOL


I added a downrigger/rod holder/bait prep board to my 17. This winter it will be replaced with a nicer and more Whaleresque piece made of mahogany.

Someday I am going to fabricate a gizmo to take advantage of the wasted space between the leaning post uprights. Be a good place to stick a couple dock lines and other things that one would want handy.

Binkster posted 12-09-2011 09:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster    
gnr sez;
(Dude.... I'm still fishing up heya in Vermont. If I was retired and lived in FLA I wouldn't have any time to share my wisdom here. LOL
Dude, there are some (few) folks here fishing but they are all from Vermont or Maine. Its 48 degrees here today, I'll wait for 70 degrees, maybe next week or next month, see how it goes, maybe not till March.

Its not that we are not tough enough, but say its like if a person likes ice cream. Well in the winter in Florida you can get vanilla ice cream every day. The really good flavors are available maybe once every couple if weeks or so. So its worth it to wait for the good flavors, rather than eat plain old vanilla. In Vermont you can only get vanilla ice cream every month or so, so you have to take what you can get.

The gizmo you want to invent is already here, its called a cooler that will fit between the posts of your leaning post.

gnr posted 12-09-2011 10:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for gnr    
Dude.

It was 22 when I got up this morning. We fish all year round. If not from a boat than from a hole in the ice.

Regarding your advice about the cooler. I'm not talking about the floor space where two 10 gallon fuel tanks currently sit. I'm talking about the space above the aft facing seat and below the leaning pad.

XX marks the spot.

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I'd kill for 48 degrees this weekend!

LOL

Jerry Townsend posted 12-09-2011 04:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
I have made up downrigger clamps - that clamp to the gunwales that can be slid anywhere on the gunwale that you want them. Nice - work well, no holes in the glass and can be made to accept any downrigger. I don't have pictures - as my '96 17 Outrage is covered for the winter.

Basically, they are of 3/16 or 1/4 inch stainless, about 4 - 5 inches wide, set on the top of the gunwale and clamps to the inside of the gunwale. Rubber sheeting is mounted between the stainless clamp and the glass - to prevent damaging the glass. This loads 4 -5 inches of the top and sides of the gunwales instead of via drilling and bolting. ---- Jerry/Idaho

Russ 13 posted 12-09-2011 05:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Russ 13  Send Email to Russ 13     
I added a center console & aluminum seat to my 13'.
It made the boat MUCH more comfortable to use.
As you can drive standing or seated, also moved the battery
under the console & fuel tank under the seat.
The poling platform is trick for poling & fishing.
..If only I could post a photo here...
Could I E-mail one to a member that could add it in??
Thanks, Russ
contender posted 12-09-2011 08:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
Russ: I also have made a custom fuel tank to fit under my 11 whalers front seat (and I think a lot of people here would appreciate it), But like you I have the same problem, I can not figure out how to post any pictures...
Binkster posted 12-09-2011 11:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster    
Just put your photos on Photobucket or some other hosting site, then just post the link on a thread here and type [url] before the link with no spaces in between, and [/url] after the link. Its very simple I can even do it.
Check it out.

http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c191/floridaboy2053/Binkie/
My cat Binkie, LOL, took all of one minute. I could have picked one picture out and posted that but I sent the whole album.
Doesn't everyone like to look at a bunch of cat pictures.

contender posted 12-10-2011 09:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
Had a small party at my house and found someone to help me post some pictures of my 11 whaler..

https://picasaweb.google.com/108947913138131273297/792011?authkey=Gv1sRgCO7qmqGa09-oVw#

conch posted 12-10-2011 10:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for conch  Send Email to conch     
https://picasaweb.google.com/108947913138131273297/ 792011?authkey=Gv1sRgCO7qmqGa09-oVw#
Binkster posted 12-11-2011 11:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster    
conch
Really nice looking 13 footer. The stern area looks modified and has a nice clean look. Do you have any more pics? Where do you sit to drive.?
tmann45 posted 12-11-2011 12:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for tmann45  Send Email to tmann45     
Nice looking 11 contender, thanks for posting the pictures.
conch posted 12-11-2011 12:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for conch  Send Email to conch     
Binkster I just highligted the link for Contender.But boy does that boat shine,I think I need shades.
Chuck
conch posted 12-11-2011 12:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for conch  Send Email to conch     
Rich you must keep that 11 whaler indoors here in Florida to have it look like that. My 15 Sport is always under canvas cover but you have to watch the heat and humidity buildup.

That posting a picture learning curve was long for me also.I am sure I learned to walk and talk in less time as a child. Computer dummy I guess.I thought when i saw [URL] that URL was some thing I had to find to insert between the brackets.Thankfully my grandson showed me how in a about a minute.
Chuck

contender posted 12-11-2011 01:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
Conch: I just finished off the Whaler (I will send you some other pictures via email what it looked like when I got it) in July/2011. The boat now sits under a canvas on the side of my home on a trailer. I kinda just want to show off the fuel tank I had built out of .125 Aluminum. I painted (awl-grip) the fuel tank to match the new interior, also I did not like the plain aluminum look. I sanded and primed the tank, and shot it with the same paint/color as the interior. It holds 10.5-11 gallons of fuel and the fuel fill in on top of the console. The other thing I wanted to show off was the raising of the transom one inch. The steering now clears the lifting rings (no off set steering support) and gave the boat a little better performance.
Chriscz posted 12-11-2011 02:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chriscz  Send Email to Chriscz     
One addition on my outrage is a bait table across the stern. Royce Meyerott add this to the boat, so I can't claim any credit. I certainly have enjoyed it.
Notice the slots towards the stern allowing everything to drain aft. I often end up cleaning the fish on the way home, guts over the side and the rest of the mess out the back, into the well by the engines and out the transom drain hole while on a plane.
Sure beats cleaning fish in the backyard or in the driveway at home.
The table works great as a seat too with a cushion.
http:/ / m1228. photobucket. com/ albums/ Chriscz128/ ?pbauth=1_uLEBonVP faLdh1h3YMYz2Ta1NR72ZZvzcuHtShS7gFhOBYFDlNs1mW6BaO7lphyrrUjeNcD6bUbRKAEV 7ocJc5noX1HSoMhX9TUIHIJVLhzZuaDlRdAvxa%2FJQVFl8JNVZEOHxTHJ%2BZ42bXPFl%2F 8e6WGSkWome4VoEQLqcS860Kw%3D
conch posted 12-11-2011 03:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for conch  Send Email to conch     
I had to go back to see the fuel fill at the console,very nice.How is the tank vented? Overboard?
LKD posted 12-11-2011 04:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for LKD  Send Email to LKD     
Here's our teak bench seat attached without drilling
any holes in the hull. Just added a couple of rail
stanchions, and wing-nutted the bench to them for
easy removal.


http:/ / s78. photobucket. com/ albums/ j95/ lkd_photos/ Montauk/ ?a ction=view& current=1987Montauk6. jpg#!oZZ6QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs78. photobucket. com%2Falbums%2Fj95%2Flkd_photos%2FMontauk%2F%3Faction%3Dvie w%26current%3D1987Montauk5. jpg

LKD posted 12-11-2011 05:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for LKD  Send Email to LKD     
Here's another try at the link:

http://s78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/lkd_photos/Montauk/?action=view& current=1987Montauk5.jpg&newest=1

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