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Hoosier posted 01-11-2012 11:03 PM ET (US)
Tonight's episode featured a rescue of two guys off of a 15' Whaler that was 24 miles off shore and lost. One of them was diabetic and was without his insulin and they were not headed home, they were headed for Japan. Neat rescue, the Whaler capsized and one of the boaters used the strakes to get onto the bottom and out of the water. They were both hoisted aboard the helicopter and the Whaler drifted off towards Japan...
egres posted 01-12-2012 12:12 AM ET (US)
Please do tell...Us more about the whole adventure.
David Pendleton posted 01-12-2012 01:00 AM ET (US)
And? Everybody knows Japan has the best insulin...
Jkcam posted 01-12-2012 05:32 AM ET (US)
If it was not a Whaler clone, and in fact a 15' Whaler, it will make you think a whole lot differently about the "unsinkable legend". Unsinkable, maybe, but it rolled over like Manatee.
If you did not view the episode, you might want to look for it as it will put some humility in your "all knowing" attitude. There is no substitution for good sense, but things can change very quickly, and over confidence in your ability and equipment could spell disaster.
Hoosier posted 01-12-2012 09:50 AM ET (US)
http://www.weather.com/tv/tvshows/coast-guard-alaska/video/on-tv-43/ coast-guard-alaska-460/coast-guard-alaska-sinking-fast-25642
prj posted 01-12-2012 11:05 AM ET (US)
Feh.
So the CG thinks the boat is about to sink, pulls himself up into it, eccentrically loading the awash boat and promptly capsizes it?
That 15' Striper was fine. They should have redirected the chaps back towards the shoreline and gone back to the harbor to hassle me about my open Pabst on the console.
gnr posted 01-12-2012 11:32 AM ET (US)
The boat looked like it performed remarkably well before it was flipped by the SARS.
How many other boats would still be floating much less upright while full of water.
Hoosier posted 01-12-2012 01:34 PM ET (US)
I think the key factor in pulling them out of the boat was they were 28 miles out and running out of daylight. I wonder where the boat ended up, is it still someplace out in the North Pacific?
Jkcam posted 01-12-2012 02:40 PM ET (US)
It was not flipped by the SARS, it was flipped by the anxious passenger standing and walking towards the SARS. Not knowing what the conversation was, nor what instructions were or were not given or followed, leaves the ultimate roll over cause unknown.
pcrussell50 posted 01-12-2012 03:00 PM ET (US)
Was it a classic 15 footer? Did it have a modern four-stroke? At least one of our experienced, rough water fishermen here on CWW has pointed out how the classics are a good deal more prone to capsize with today's heavy four-strokes, which can and sometimes do, weigh half or more as much as the hull itself. I'll let him chime in with more. FWIW, I'm in that category, with a behemoth, 400#, 90hp Mercury FourStroke on my classic 17.
-Peter
gnr posted 01-12-2012 03:23 PM ET (US)
For the record: I did not mean to imply fault with the courageous search and rescue swimmer. My point was that the boat was doing ok considering it's condition while it waited for help to arrive.
I still wonder how many boats would have handle that condition as well as that one did.
stefan posted 01-12-2012 04:35 PM ET (US)
Saw that too- was not a classic but newer hull. I couldn't believe how well it held up either
sosmerc posted 01-15-2012 01:32 AM ET (US)
It would be interesting to know if the boat was still under power? If under power and held into the waves it might have been able to continue under the hands of a skilled skipper.
My guess is the engine may have died or run out of fuel. At any rate, the "crew" were overwhelmed with the circumstances and just wanted out. It's a shame but a good lesson for all...that there is now substitute for experience and preparation for the worst when heading out to sea..no matter what size the vessel.

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Hoosier	posted 01-11-2012 11:03 PM ET (US) Tonight's episode featured a rescue of two guys off of a 15' Whaler that was 24 miles off shore and lost. One of them was diabetic and was without his insulin and they were not headed home, they were headed for Japan. Neat rescue, the Whaler capsized and one of the boaters used the strakes to get onto the bottom and out of the water. They were both hoisted aboard the helicopter and the Whaler drifted off towards Japan...
egres	posted 01-12-2012 12:12 AM ET (US) Please do tell...Us more about the whole adventure.
David Pendleton	posted 01-12-2012 01:00 AM ET (US) And? Everybody knows Japan has the best insulin...
Jkcam	posted 01-12-2012 05:32 AM ET (US) If it was not a Whaler clone, and in fact a 15' Whaler, it will make you think a whole lot differently about the "unsinkable legend". Unsinkable, maybe, but it rolled over like Manatee. If you did not view the episode, you might want to look for it as it will put some humility in your "all knowing" attitude. There is no substitution for good sense, but things can change very quickly, and over confidence in your ability and equipment could spell disaster.
Hoosier	posted 01-12-2012 09:50 AM ET (US) http://www.weather.com/tv/tvshows/coast-guard-alaska/video/on-tv-43/ coast-guard-alaska-460/coast-guard-alaska-sinking-fast-25642
prj	posted 01-12-2012 11:05 AM ET (US) Feh. So the CG thinks the boat is about to sink, pulls himself up into it, eccentrically loading the awash boat and promptly capsizes it? That 15' Striper was fine. They should have redirected the chaps back towards the shoreline and gone back to the harbor to hassle me about my open Pabst on the console.
gnr	posted 01-12-2012 11:32 AM ET (US) The boat looked like it performed remarkably well before it was flipped by the SARS. How many other boats would still be floating much less upright while full of water.
Hoosier	posted 01-12-2012 01:34 PM ET (US) I think the key factor in pulling them out of the boat was they were 28 miles out and running out of daylight. I wonder where the boat ended up, is it still someplace out in the North Pacific?
Jkcam	posted 01-12-2012 02:40 PM ET (US) It was not flipped by the SARS, it was flipped by the anxious passenger standing and walking towards the SARS. Not knowing what the conversation was, nor what instructions were or were not given or followed, leaves the ultimate roll over cause unknown.
pcrussell50	posted 01-12-2012 03:00 PM ET (US) Was it a classic 15 footer? Did it have a modern four-stroke? At least one of our experienced, rough water fishermen here on CWW has pointed out how the classics are a good deal more prone to capsize with today's heavy four-strokes, which can and sometimes do, weigh half or more as much as the hull itself. I'll let him chime in with more. FWIW, I'm in that category, with a behemoth, 400#, 90hp Mercury FourStroke on my classic 17. -Peter
gnr	posted 01-12-2012 03:23 PM ET (US) For the record: I did not mean to imply fault with the courageous search and rescue swimmer. My point was that the boat was doing ok considering it's condition while it waited for help to arrive. I still wonder how many boats would have handle that condition as well as that one did.
stefan	posted 01-12-2012 04:35 PM ET (US) Saw that too- was not a classic but newer hull. I couldn't believe how well it held up either
sosmerc	posted 01-15-2012 01:32 AM ET (US) It would be interesting to know if the boat was still under power? If under power and held into the waves it might have been able to continue under the hands of a skilled skipper. My guess is the engine may have died or run out of fuel. At any rate, the "crew" were overwhelmed with the circumstances and just wanted out. It's a shame but a good lesson for all...that there is now substitute for experience and preparation for the worst when heading out to sea..no matter what size the vessel.