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egres posted 01-27-2012 03:10 AM ET (US)
It was no so long ago that I was watching those black and white commercial on the tube, flaunting the capacity of this quaint little craft to float while still being cut in half.
And to follow Fisher's thinking and logic
To have "evolved" the design of Hickman's design
A true lippy and cantankerous genius to be sure..
Into what came to be the first and true Whaler 13 should NEVER be lost and forgotten to all of us Classic owners.
Albert Hickman is actually the Grandfather of the design
to go from this venerated original
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/252/88786508.jpg/
To the "reworked" design from Our friend Fisher and obvious founder of the model
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/whaler13297x148.jpg/
A lot has been departed if not all together forgotten about the true intent and benefits of the original qualities and advantages of the hull designs.
For me personally the original meaning of the Whaler name will reside in the originality and economy of fuel and load capacity based on the original Hickman's inspired Whaler hulls.
There was a net advantage to those lines then
And there is STILL a net advantage to them now.
Why has the Whaler brand decided to move to a more deep V design and run of the mill hull shape
Will lay in the fact that they debatingly will handle heavy seas better.
Speed load capacity and stability will ever be an advantage when being at sea.
Let us carefully think and specifically look at what we had and compare it to what is being offered to all of us prospective new Whaler owners in these present days.
I feel very strongly about tradition and common sense from the Hickman's days and will wonder if some of us will fell in the same ways.

egres posted 01-27-2012 01:33 PM ET (US)
In factual terms, William Albert Hickman was one of the first men to achieve high speeds on the water without resorting to high power. He proved that a hull could be made to go faster by forcing air under it, invented the surface-piercing propeller, designed and devised tactics for the world's first high-performance motor torpedo boats, discovered that propellers generated lift, effectively used counter-rotating props before anyone else, built the first high-speed aircraft carrier, and patented the ideas for lifting strakes, sponsons, non-tripping chines, and the prop-riding speedboat.
A truly interesting read..
http://www.invertedvboats.741.com/Hickman_Bio.html
elaelap posted 01-27-2012 05:43 PM ET (US)
The following is from a January 2007 thread about Richard Cole, another Whaler granddaddy:
__________________________________________________
Here's a link to some interesting historical information regarding Richard Cole, who was an important marine architect and influence on early Whaler designs, especially the cathedral-hulled models. Note the reference and link inside the article to jimh's continuousWave piece on Whaler history. Note also the cool line drawings of various hull designs patented by Cole...notice any similarities to your Whaler?
http://www.ultimate.com/omc-boats/cole.html
I'm especially interested in Cole, since I've deckhanded in a little 26 ft cathedral-hulled Thunderbird twin I/O 6-Pak for many years, and that boat's skipper is the guy who talked me into buying my first Whaler.
Tony
egres posted 01-27-2012 07:18 PM ET (US)
Another designer.
Mr Ray Hunt making a strong case for the Deep V types of hulls.
Boston Whaler 13
The Boston Whaler 13 (1960) was a stable utility boat, much loved by families for its stability (adults as well as kids could dive off the gunwhales without upsetting the boat) and unsinkability. This boat not only launched that builder as a major brand but created a whole new genre of desirable outboard tenders and coastal utility boats. Interestingly, Dick Fisher, the President of what would become Boston Whaler, had approached Ray Hunt to design a sailboat but Ray convinced him to use a newly developed foam construction to build an outboard boat instead. That 13-footer was a commercial success for several decades, followed similarly by the 16-foot Boston Whaler Montauk.
http://www.crhunt.com/deepv-questions-answers.htm

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Author	Topic: The Meaning Of The Name
egres	posted 01-27-2012 03:10 AM ET (US) It was no so long ago that I was watching those black and white commercial on the tube, flaunting the capacity of this quaint little craft to float while still being cut in half. And to follow Fisher's thinking and logic To have "evolved" the design of Hickman's design A true lippy and cantankerous genius to be sure.. Into what came to be the first and true Whaler 13 should NEVER be lost and forgotten to all of us Classic owners. Albert Hickman is actually the Grandfather of the design to go from this venerated original http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/252/88786508.jpg/ To the "reworked" design from Our friend Fisher and obvious founder of the model http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/whaler13297x148.jpg/ A lot has been departed if not all together forgotten about the true intent and benefits of the original qualities and advantages of the hull designs. For me personally the original meaning of the Whaler name will reside in the originality and economy of fuel and load capacity based on the original Hickman's inspired Whaler hulls. There was a net advantage to those lines then And there is STILL a net advantage to them now. Why has the Whaler brand decided to move to a more deep V design and run of the mill hull shape Will lay in the fact that they debatingly will handle heavy seas better. Speed load capacity and stability will ever be an advantage when being at sea. Let us carefully think and specifically look at what we had and compare it to what is being offered to all of us prospective new Whaler owners in these present days. I feel very strongly about tradition and common sense from the Hickman's days and will wonder if some of us will fell in the same ways.
egres	posted 01-27-2012 01:33 PM ET (US) In factual terms, William Albert Hickman was one of the first men to achieve high speeds on the water without resorting to high power. He proved that a hull could be made to go faster by forcing air under it, invented the surface-piercing propeller, designed and devised tactics for the world's first high-performance motor torpedo boats, discovered that propellers generated lift, effectively used counter-rotating props before anyone else, built the first high-speed aircraft carrier, and patented the ideas for lifting strakes, sponsons, non-tripping chines, and the prop-riding speedboat. A truly interesting read.. http://www.invertedvboats.741.com/Hickman_Bio.html
elaelap	posted 01-27-2012 05:43 PM ET (US) The following is from a January 2007 thread about Richard Cole, another Whaler granddaddy: __________________________________________________ Here's a link to some interesting historical information regarding Richard Cole, who was an important marine architect and influence on early Whaler designs, especially the cathedral-hulled models. Note the reference and link inside the article to jimh's continuousWave piece on Whaler history. Note also the cool line drawings of various hull designs patented by Cole...notice any similarities to your Whaler? http://www.ultimate.com/omc-boats/cole.html I'm especially interested in Cole, since I've deckhanded in a little 26 ft cathedral-hulled Thunderbird twin I/O 6-Pak for many years, and that boat's skipper is the guy who talked me into buying my first Whaler. Tony
egres	posted 01-27-2012 07:18 PM ET (US) Another designer. Mr Ray Hunt making a strong case for the Deep V types of hulls. Boston Whaler 13 The Boston Whaler 13 (1960) was a stable utility boat, much loved by families for its stability (adults as well as kids could dive off the gunwhales without upsetting the boat) and unsinkability. This boat not only launched that builder as a major brand but created a whole new genre of desirable outboard tenders and coastal utility boats. Interestingly, Dick Fisher, the President of what would become Boston Whaler, had approached Ray Hunt to design a sailboat but Ray convinced him to use a newly developed foam construction to build an outboard boat instead. That 13-footer was a commercial success for several decades, followed similarly by the 16-foot Boston Whaler Montauk. http://www.crhunt.com/deepv-questions-answers.htm