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russellbailey posted 07-22-2012 10:15 AM ET (US)
The kids and I were out on a new lake yesterday (Moomaw, up near the VA/WV border) and I had my first chance to test out the new heavy-duty trailer guide posts I had installed from VeVe, a manufacturer in Minnesota.
I've had our 1984 Outrage 25 for about 2.5 years now, and I exclusively trailer it and nearly always solo load. I have a Champion keel roller trailer similar to the one that you can see in LHG's photos. The trailer had typical PVC guides on the rear which I did not find helpful other than to see where the trailer was - if the gunwale ever touched them, they would easily move out enough that they did not really work to get the boat on.
I'd found these heavy-duty VeVe units earlier but just got around to them this year (a new brake actuator was higher on the list). I am impressed using these. They are much much much stiffer than the typical posts. Yesterday I simply nosed the boat between them, gave a very small amount of throttle and nosed the boat up to the bow chock, then got out to hook the bow strap with it idling in gear (otherwise it would have rolled back down the trailer). While there is a very small play they are essentially stiff.
As a side benefit they are also very visible, as they use 3" PVC pipe. They are not perfect - the hardware that comes with them is plated but not galvanized (the rest is galvanized) - John VeVe said it would have ok corrosion resistance but not as good as galvanized, and I've got some galvanized U-bolts to replace. I was impressed with the factory also - contact them and you speak with the owner.
They are expensive but there is a lot of metal in these and a lot more work in making them than normal posts - I'll bet they weigh 100 lbs. If you routinely trailer a large Whaler I'd recommend considering them. They would work on a boat quite a bit larger than the Outrage 25 - if anything the Outrage 25 is at the smaller end of the size boats they are designed for. But they sure do make loading the boat correctly the first time easy, which is worth it to me.
The web site for them is
http://www.veveinc.com/shop/Post-Guide-Ons-T-967-7-1/2-ft.-model.html
I don't have a web page to host pictures but would be glad to share some pictures of the installed posts.
I have no business connection to VeVe - just a pleased customer.
Chuck Tribolet posted 07-22-2012 10:55 AM ET (US)
If you are going to replace the HW, replace it with stainless
not galvanized.
Chuck
Buckda posted 07-22-2012 12:06 PM ET (US)
Great information, as I have been unhappy with the "standard" guides on my trailer for my 25.
I'm thinking VeVe should offer SS Hardware as an option kit... :)
Looks like a nice product!
How about a photo of it installed on your rig?
Dave
Buckda posted 07-22-2012 12:09 PM ET (US)
Only disappointing feature is that the light kits for guide posts won't fit on these. I find that the pipe lights are essential for highway visibility of your trailer in a heavy rain situation where the wheelspray from your tow vehicle and trailer obscures trailer taillights completely. The LED Pipe lights make a HUGE difference. Hopefully VeVe will consider some kind of option that addresses this. Still very intrigued with this product, despite the hefty price and shipping costs.
Dave
russellbailey posted 07-22-2012 12:20 PM ET (US)
Chuck, stainless is best but I have had good use out of galvanized - I am 90% fresh and 10% salt in usage. It is probably more and bigger bolts than hold the axle and springs onto your Montauk trailer - 12 U-bolts of 1/2 bolt diameter size - that is a lot of stainless to buy.
Dave, I have some 3"x2" PVC reducers that I plan to install on top to fit pipe-lights on. On the yet-to-do list but I have the reducers here. They will end up quite tall - at least 8' above ground level.
429-338 3 x 2 reducing couple bell ($11.14 ea.)
http://flexpvc.com/
The PVC tube will spin as it comes from VeVe - it sits on-top of a welded ring on the metal post. It will need to be pinned with pipe-lights.
Buckda posted 07-22-2012 01:13 PM ET (US)
Here are some photos of the installation on Russel's rig.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Buckda/Boats%20-%20Technical/ IMG_9792.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Buckda/Boats%20-%20Technical/ IMG_9791.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Buckda/Boats%20-%20Technical/ IMG_9790.jpg
lizard posted 07-22-2012 11:21 PM ET (US)
Dave- why don't the light kits work on these?

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Author	Topic: Heavy-duty trailer guide posts - VeVe T-967
russellbailey	posted 07-22-2012 10:15 AM ET (US) The kids and I were out on a new lake yesterday (Moomaw, up near the VA/WV border) and I had my first chance to test out the new heavy-duty trailer guide posts I had installed from VeVe, a manufacturer in Minnesota. I've had our 1984 Outrage 25 for about 2.5 years now, and I exclusively trailer it and nearly always solo load. I have a Champion keel roller trailer similar to the one that you can see in LHG's photos. The trailer had typical PVC guides on the rear which I did not find helpful other than to see where the trailer was - if the gunwale ever touched them, they would easily move out enough that they did not really work to get the boat on. I'd found these heavy-duty VeVe units earlier but just got around to them this year (a new brake actuator was higher on the list). I am impressed using these. They are much much much stiffer than the typical posts. Yesterday I simply nosed the boat between them, gave a very small amount of throttle and nosed the boat up to the bow chock, then got out to hook the bow strap with it idling in gear (otherwise it would have rolled back down the trailer). While there is a very small play they are essentially stiff. As a side benefit they are also very visible, as they use 3" PVC pipe. They are not perfect - the hardware that comes with them is plated but not galvanized (the rest is galvanized) - John VeVe said it would have ok corrosion resistance but not as good as galvanized, and I've got some galvanized U-bolts to replace. I was impressed with the factory also - contact them and you speak with the owner. They are expensive but there is a lot of metal in these and a lot more work in making them than normal posts - I'll bet they weigh 100 lbs. If you routinely trailer a large Whaler I'd recommend considering them. They would work on a boat quite a bit larger than the Outrage 25 - if anything the Outrage 25 is at the smaller end of the size boats they are designed for. But they sure do make loading the boat correctly the first time easy, which is worth it to me. The web site for them is http://www.veveinc.com/shop/Post-Guide-Ons-T-967-7-1/2-ft.-model.html I don't have a web page to host pictures but would be glad to share some pictures of the installed posts. I have no business connection to VeVe - just a pleased customer.
Chuck Tribolet	posted 07-22-2012 10:55 AM ET (US) If you are going to replace the HW, replace it with stainless not galvanized. Chuck
Buckda	posted 07-22-2012 12:06 PM ET (US) Great information, as I have been unhappy with the "standard" guides on my trailer for my 25. I'm thinking VeVe should offer SS Hardware as an option kit... :) Looks like a nice product! How about a photo of it installed on your rig? Dave
Buckda	posted 07-22-2012 12:09 PM ET (US) Only disappointing feature is that the light kits for guide posts won't fit on these. I find that the pipe lights are essential for highway visibility of your trailer in a heavy rain situation where the wheelspray from your tow vehicle and trailer obscures trailer taillights completely. The LED Pipe lights make a HUGE difference. Hopefully VeVe will consider some kind of option that addresses this. Still very intrigued with this product, despite the hefty price and shipping costs. Dave
russellbailey	posted 07-22-2012 12:20 PM ET (US) Chuck, stainless is best but I have had good use out of galvanized - I am 90% fresh and 10% salt in usage. It is probably more and bigger bolts than hold the axle and springs onto your Montauk trailer - 12 U-bolts of 1/2 bolt diameter size - that is a lot of stainless to buy. Dave, I have some 3"x2" PVC reducers that I plan to install on top to fit pipe-lights on. On the yet-to-do list but I have the reducers here. They will end up quite tall - at least 8' above ground level. 429-338 3 x 2 reducing couple bell ($11.14 ea.) http://flexpvc.com/ The PVC tube will spin as it comes from VeVe - it sits on-top of a welded ring on the metal post. It will need to be pinned with pipe-lights.
Buckda	posted 07-22-2012 01:13 PM ET (US) Here are some photos of the installation on Russel's rig. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Buckda/Boats%20-%20Technical/ IMG_9792.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Buckda/Boats%20-%20Technical/ IMG_9791.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Buckda/Boats%20-%20Technical/ IMG_9790.jpg
lizard	posted 07-22-2012 11:21 PM ET (US) Dave- why don't the light kits work on these?