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PeteB88 posted 08-11-2012 01:11 PM ET (US)
One of the first threads I absorbed on Continuous Wave had this post: "Friends don't let friends buy Crocs..." by Bob Kemmler Jr. He was so right.
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012920.html
I took that advice very seriously since it came from such an esteemed crew and I wanted to put a good foot forward. Yep. Nevertheless, Crocs appeared under the Christmas tree a few years ago, fur lined too - a pair for each of us, so I figured, what the heck.
They do make for great mopping the floor shoes for sure - However, I feel compelled to file a report to the crew specific to N=2 Croc Failure experiences, with a caution statement:
CAUTION: Do not leave Crocs on your front porch, boat, driveway or pool deck in because they will distort, shrink or melt in direct sun on hot days.
My size 13s are now maybe size 10 and Ellen's women's 8s are probably size 4.
Unbelievable! What's this world coming to? What if I were on Whaler adventure in N. Channel, crossed the Gulf Stream to Bahamas w/ Janis and Florida pals? Or on West Coast w/ California friends - Lake Mead?? with only Crocs?
WARNING! NEVER depend on one pair of Crocs as your only footwear ever on any trip, cruise, safari, adventure or in life for that matter. If exposed to direct sunlight Crocs will melt like heat shrinkable tubing and distort making them unwearable. Always have backup footwear available.
Unless Crocs has issued a recall, TSB or corrective action to improve designs, be aware of this failure mode. Where's Jesse Ventura??
Peter posted 08-11-2012 02:11 PM ET (US)
Good thing it didn't happen with your feet in them. ;)
PeteB88 posted 08-11-2012 02:41 PM ET (US)
That's right, I need all the feet I can get/keep. Could have been great torture scene in Dark Knight Returns.
contender posted 08-11-2012 05:23 PM ET (US)
I never like then since day one, and have never even tried one on..
andrey320 posted 08-11-2012 06:32 PM ET (US)
I was anti-croc as well until I got a pair as a present. Now, these are my primary boating shoes! I start out with socks and crocs, which is comparable to shoes. When it warms up, the socks come off and they become slippers. The open shoe with closed toes works great on the boat. I've had my pair for close to two years and they certainly show it.... I'm getting ready to get another pair.
Dave Sutton posted 08-11-2012 07:37 PM ET (US)
Had to laugh at this. Methinks someone got a counterfeit pair and not a set of the originals.
I live in the damned things aboard my boats, they are (A) ugly as hell and (B) as practical as anything could possibly be when your feet are wet all day.
Mine live outside in the sun 24/7/365 (we go barefoot in the cabin) and are 5 years old with no wear or deterioriation even seen. I HATE how they look. I LOVE how I can slip them on and off 20 times a day as I walk past them and how they protect my toes.
Sorry guys... shrinking in the sun is not what they do. Cheap counterfeits? Maybe.

Dave

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PeteB88 posted 08-11-2012 09:39 PM ET (US)
Dave - I agree, world's greatest mystery. I think they came from REI - Wife says Younkers. Maybe bad lot of Croc Rubber. Must investigate. I actually liked them but between two pairs of Keens, a couple of Chacos, Teva, West Marine flip flops, Reef flip flops they had no boat time. We're on it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marsh posted 08-11-2012 09:41 PM ET (US)
I've been a Croc fan for over five years...currently have five pairs in my closet. I have never noted any shrinkage.
Dave Sutton posted 08-11-2012 11:44 PM ET (US)
Well, call Croc and get new ones. I bought a pair of a second more dressy style (look sort of like Sperry Topsiders on the top with the basic Croc sole and vents) and after a few weeks some of the stitching gave up. I called, sent a pic, got a RMA and got a new set sent free with no issues. Maybe they had a bad run of something. I'd ping their customer service and see what they say. My return experience was flawless.

Dave
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17 bodega posted 08-12-2012 12:29 AM ET (US)
Another satisfied croc consumer here. They "are what they are.." and "aren't what they're not.." so use them in context. Any circumstance where a flip flop is appropriate, the croc is usually better. Is there anything easier to slip on and off?
Throw them in the dishwasher... done.
macfam posted 08-12-2012 07:12 AM ET (US)
What a croc!!!! ;-)
Nothing is versatile as crocs, from boat, to beach, to road, to car, etc.
Never saw one melt.
Plus, they can be dipped in bleach and water to stay sanitary....like no other.
Yup......they're ugly........
wezie posted 08-12-2012 10:13 AM ET (US)
A CROK is just an extremely cheap shoe, that felt good and became sort of cultish. They feel good but do not provide support.
It is a wonderful idea if you have no shoes, and there were rumors that programs of give always to those that had no shoes we're in place.
Crocs were initially better, when made here. Then as production expanded, quality and size consistency fell. I do not believe you can find "originals" that are made here.
Prices increased to that of real shoes.
They can be extremely slick on wet surfaces.
I tried them when they were introduced. After about a year I threw away 5 pair, because they were slick and odd sized.
Later I tried them again and threw away 2 pair for the same reasons. Bones heal slowly.
Never saw one melt, but rapid wearing was a problem.
The international nature of current production is most likely much of the problem. No one knows what this batch is made of, or the next.
Dave are your Originals made in the US? If not they are not original.
In summary, they are just a tool that may have uses, but not around here.
Good Luck!
Jkcam posted 08-12-2012 11:39 AM ET (US)
I have been a Croc devotee for a number of years. Nothing better on the launching ramp. In the boat they are kicked off and rest under the console.
Around 1970, Shrinkage was pretty common among those of us that would surf on Cape Cod during February, regardless of the thickness of the wetsuit.
burning_hXc_soul posted 08-13-2012 04:56 PM ET (US)
I wore my Tan colored crocs all the time in Iraq when I was over there as a civilian and I never had a problem, I left them outside my hooch when I was at work and they never changed. I don't think it gets hotter anywhere else.... Did you get yours at walmart? haha.
tjxtreme posted 08-13-2012 05:10 PM ET (US)
I swore off Crocs when I was throwing frisbee with a friend on the beach. He took a big step to the side to grab it and his foot slid straight through the front... he was a normal sized guy.
Chacos for me. They even make a boating tread, but I got mine before this.
Plotman posted 08-13-2012 06:26 PM ET (US)
If your crocs shrank in the sun, then they are knockoffs.
PeteB88 posted 08-13-2012 10:46 PM ET (US)
On priority list for Tuesday, 8/14:
Call Crock!! Take some photos of deformed Crocs.
Report coming.
Spuds posted 08-14-2012 12:14 PM ET (US)
Crocs with socks, rocks!
Ridge Runner posted 08-14-2012 12:39 PM ET (US)
Shrinking seems to be know side effect of heat.
How To Un-Shrink Crocs Shoes That Have Shrunk
http://feet.thefuntimesguide.com/2008/07/shrink_crocs_shrunk.php
http://www.townsandtrails.com/ have-your-crocs-shrunk-un-shrink-them-in-your-dryer/
Dave Sutton posted 08-14-2012 12:43 PM ET (US)
Interesting.
This is also interesting, and may explain why different shrinkage v/s non-shrinkage experiences are possible:

"It probably has something to do with the fact that different pairs of Crocs are made from different batches of material, and any slight change in the formulation could ultimately affect their shrinkability. Such is why some people (many people) have left their Crocs out in the sun, in hot parked cars, or in the dishwasher and had no issues with Croc shrinkage"
Dave
.
newt posted 08-16-2012 01:55 PM ET (US)
Ok, so how can I shrink a real pair of crocs? Mine have stretched out over the years.
Landlocked posted 08-16-2012 02:36 PM ET (US)
I've had two pair and worn both to the point that the bottoms were so thin sharp pieces of gravel would break through. Personally I love them.
Word to the wise though. They are dangerous when wet. About a month ago I stepped out on the deck during a rain storm. As I turned to go down the steps, my feet rose to an elevation almost equivilent to where my head usually is and I proceeded to bounce down 8 steps on my back. If that wasn't bad enough, I slid into an upright air compressor I had left sitting at the bottom and it turned over on top of me. Missed two days of work and had to cancel a field job I'd had scheduled for months!
They seem particularily dangerous when the inside gets wet.
Ll.

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Author	Topic: Croc Failure
PeteB88	posted 08-11-2012 01:11 PM ET (US) One of the first threads I absorbed on Continuous Wave had this post: "Friends don't let friends buy Crocs..." by Bob Kemmler Jr. He was so right. http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012920.html I took that advice very seriously since it came from such an esteemed crew and I wanted to put a good foot forward. Yep. Nevertheless, Crocs appeared under the Christmas tree a few years ago, fur lined too - a pair for each of us, so I figured, what the heck. They do make for great mopping the floor shoes for sure - However, I feel compelled to file a report to the crew specific to N=2 Croc Failure experiences, with a caution statement: CAUTION: Do not leave Crocs on your front porch, boat, driveway or pool deck in because they will distort, shrink or melt in direct sun on hot days. My size 13s are now maybe size 10 and Ellen's women's 8s are probably size 4. Unbelievable! What's this world coming to? What if I were on Whaler adventure in N. Channel, crossed the Gulf Stream to Bahamas w/ Janis and Florida pals? Or on West Coast w/ California friends - Lake Mead?? with only Crocs? WARNING! NEVER depend on one pair of Crocs as your only footwear ever on any trip, cruise, safari, adventure or in life for that matter. If exposed to direct sunlight Crocs will melt like heat shrinkable tubing and distort making them unwearable. Always have backup footwear available. Unless Crocs has issued a recall, TSB or corrective action to improve designs, be aware of this failure mode. Where's Jesse Ventura??
Peter	posted 08-11-2012 02:11 PM ET (US) Good thing it didn't happen with your feet in them. ;)
PeteB88	posted 08-11-2012 02:41 PM ET (US) That's right, I need all the feet I can get/keep. Could have been great torture scene in Dark Knight Returns.
contender	posted 08-11-2012 05:23 PM ET (US) I never like then since day one, and have never even tried one on..
andrey320	posted 08-11-2012 06:32 PM ET (US) I was anti-croc as well until I got a pair as a present. Now, these are my primary boating shoes! I start out with socks and crocs, which is comparable to shoes. When it warms up, the socks come off and they become slippers. The open shoe with closed toes works great on the boat. I've had my pair for close to two years and they certainly show it.... I'm getting ready to get another pair.
Dave Sutton	posted 08-11-2012 07:37 PM ET (US) Had to laugh at this. Methinks someone got a counterfeit pair and not a set of the originals. I live in the damned things aboard my boats, they are (A) ugly as hell and (B) as practical as anything could possibly be when your feet are wet all day. Mine live outside in the sun 24/7/365 (we go barefoot in the cabin) and are 5 years old with no wear or deterioriation even seen. I HATE how they look. I LOVE how I can slip them on and off 20 times a day as I walk past them and how they protect my toes. Sorry guys... shrinking in the sun is not what they do. Cheap counterfeits? Maybe. Dave .
PeteB88	posted 08-11-2012 09:39 PM ET (US) Dave - I agree, world's greatest mystery. I think they came from REI - Wife says Younkers. Maybe bad lot of Croc Rubber. Must investigate. I actually liked them but between two pairs of Keens, a couple of Chacos, Teva, West Marine flip flops, Reef flip flops they had no boat time. We're on it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marsh	posted 08-11-2012 09:41 PM ET (US) I've been a Croc fan for over five years...currently have five pairs in my closet. I have never noted any shrinkage.
Dave Sutton	posted 08-11-2012 11:44 PM ET (US) Well, call Croc and get new ones. I bought a pair of a second more dressy style (look sort of like Sperry Topsiders on the top with the basic Croc sole and vents) and after a few weeks some of the stitching gave up. I called, sent a pic, got a RMA and got a new set sent free with no issues. Maybe they had a bad run of something. I'd ping their customer service and see what they say. My return experience was flawless. Dave .
17 bodega	posted 08-12-2012 12:29 AM ET (US) Another satisfied croc consumer here. They "are what they are.." and "aren't what they're not.." so use them in context. Any circumstance where a flip flop is appropriate, the croc is usually better. Is there anything easier to slip on and off? Throw them in the dishwasher... done.
macfam	posted 08-12-2012 07:12 AM ET (US) What a croc!!!! ;-) Nothing is versatile as crocs, from boat, to beach, to road, to car, etc. Never saw one melt. Plus, they can be dipped in bleach and water to stay sanitary....like no other. Yup......they're ugly........
wezie	posted 08-12-2012 10:13 AM ET (US) A CROK is just an extremely cheap shoe, that felt good and became sort of cultish. They feel good but do not provide support. It is a wonderful idea if you have no shoes, and there were rumors that programs of give always to those that had no shoes we're in place. Crocs were initially better, when made here. Then as production expanded, quality and size consistency fell. I do not believe you can find "originals" that are made here. Prices increased to that of real shoes. They can be extremely slick on wet surfaces. I tried them when they were introduced. After about a year I threw away 5 pair, because they were slick and odd sized. Later I tried them again and threw away 2 pair for the same reasons. Bones heal slowly. Never saw one melt, but rapid wearing was a problem. The international nature of current production is most likely much of the problem. No one knows what this batch is made of, or the next. Dave are your Originals made in the US? If not they are not original. In summary, they are just a tool that may have uses, but not around here. Good Luck!
Jkcam	posted 08-12-2012 11:39 AM ET (US) I have been a Croc devotee for a number of years. Nothing better on the launching ramp. In the boat they are kicked off and rest under the console. Around 1970, Shrinkage was pretty common among those of us that would surf on Cape Cod during February, regardless of the thickness of the wetsuit.
burning_hXc_soul	posted 08-13-2012 04:56 PM ET (US) I wore my Tan colored crocs all the time in Iraq when I was over there as a civilian and I never had a problem, I left them outside my hooch when I was at work and they never changed. I don't think it gets hotter anywhere else.... Did you get yours at walmart? haha.
tjxtreme	posted 08-13-2012 05:10 PM ET (US) I swore off Crocs when I was throwing frisbee with a friend on the beach. He took a big step to the side to grab it and his foot slid straight through the front... he was a normal sized guy. Chacos for me. They even make a boating tread, but I got mine before this.
Plotman	posted 08-13-2012 06:26 PM ET (US) If your crocs shrank in the sun, then they are knockoffs.
PeteB88	posted 08-13-2012 10:46 PM ET (US) On priority list for Tuesday, 8/14: Call Crock!! Take some photos of deformed Crocs. Report coming.
Spuds	posted 08-14-2012 12:14 PM ET (US) Crocs with socks, rocks!
Ridge Runner	posted 08-14-2012 12:39 PM ET (US) Shrinking seems to be know side effect of heat. How To Un-Shrink Crocs Shoes That Have Shrunk http://feet.thefuntimesguide.com/2008/07/shrink_crocs_shrunk.php http://www.townsandtrails.com/ have-your-crocs-shrunk-un-shrink-them-in-your-dryer/
Dave Sutton	posted 08-14-2012 12:43 PM ET (US) Interesting. This is also interesting, and may explain why different shrinkage v/s non-shrinkage experiences are possible: "It probably has something to do with the fact that different pairs of Crocs are made from different batches of material, and any slight change in the formulation could ultimately affect their shrinkability. Such is why some people (many people) have left their Crocs out in the sun, in hot parked cars, or in the dishwasher and had no issues with Croc shrinkage" Dave .
newt	posted 08-16-2012 01:55 PM ET (US) Ok, so how can I shrink a real pair of crocs? Mine have stretched out over the years.
Landlocked	posted 08-16-2012 02:36 PM ET (US) I've had two pair and worn both to the point that the bottoms were so thin sharp pieces of gravel would break through. Personally I love them. Word to the wise though. They are dangerous when wet. About a month ago I stepped out on the deck during a rain storm. As I turned to go down the steps, my feet rose to an elevation almost equivilent to where my head usually is and I proceeded to bounce down 8 steps on my back. If that wasn't bad enough, I slid into an upright air compressor I had left sitting at the bottom and it turned over on top of me. Missed two days of work and had to cancel a field job I'd had scheduled for months! They seem particularily dangerous when the inside gets wet. Ll.