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Author | Topic: Evinrude 2014 |
jimh |
posted 07-07-2013 08:12 AM ET (US)
Evinrude outboards for 2014 will feature new models, new colors, and new graphics. Joining the recently introduced 135 H.O. model will be a 90 H.O. The 90 H.O. will be based on the V4 engine. A new engine color scheme called the Graphite Series will be introduced on the 15 H.O., 150 H.O., 200 H.O., 250 H.O., and 300-HP models. E-TEC engine decals are also being revamped. I wish I had some images to share that showed the new Graphite Series and the new engine decals, but, alas, I do not. |
Peter |
posted 07-07-2013 11:45 AM ET (US)
Was wondering when they would do a 100 HP E-TEC on the V4 block. Perfect for a 90 HP tug-of-war ;) |
martyn1075 |
posted 07-07-2013 11:55 AM ET (US)
ARR ARR see muscles flex. |
george nagy |
posted 07-07-2013 01:45 PM ET (US)
The 90 H.O. will be perfect for a Montauk. |
crbenny |
posted 07-07-2013 05:51 PM ET (US)
You can say that again. Actually, I wouldn't want any more weight than the 320-lbs of the three cylinder 90. Chris |
jimh |
posted 07-07-2013 07:19 PM ET (US)
The three-cylinder E-TEC 90-HP is just about the perfect outboard engine for re-powering many models of classic Boston Whaler boat, and that is not my opinion but rather the collective opinions of the dozens and dozens of owners of classic Boston Whaler boats who have chosen the E-TEC 90-HP. I don't know if a 90 H.O. model with four cylinders is going to make a huge difference for classic Boston Whaler owners, but perhaps there is a market for it. |
sosmerc |
posted 07-07-2013 09:30 PM ET (US)
Mercury will soon have to counter with their own "improved graphics" and nomenclature. I wouldn't look for a color change, but rest assured you will see more "XS" in the future. Let the flames begin :) |
jcush87 |
posted 07-07-2013 10:48 PM ET (US)
Jimh, what is your source for this? I would like to read more. Thanks |
jimh |
posted 07-08-2013 12:21 AM ET (US)
I can't find any more information on this topic. You have all I know. If I find out more, I will be glad to pass on what I find. I think the Graphite Series colors should be quite interesting. They may reprise the dark gray Johnson color scheme from a few years ago, which was an attractive treatment. Or, perhaps, even darker--could we see black E-TEC engines? Oh, no, say it isn't so! |
L H G |
posted 07-08-2013 01:23 AM ET (US)
[Usual spew here. Just read anything Larry has written about E-TEC, Bombardier, and modern two-stroke-cycle outboards in the last 30 years and you will get the idea--jimh] |
george nagy |
posted 07-08-2013 02:44 PM ET (US)
Since when did graphite or gray become black? |
martyn1075 |
posted 07-08-2013 03:02 PM ET (US)
New graphics are not unheard of. They all do it time time. Martyn |
Mambo Minnow |
posted 07-08-2013 03:14 PM ET (US)
If Evinride is going to introduce a new metallic color, why not just go retro and bring back the original Evinrude metallic blue? I would much prefer a V-4 90HP E-tec since that is closer to the old OMC VRO V-4. My Dad picked that motor for his classic Montauk back in 1984 because a 3 cylinder block was not as well balanced as a 4 cylinder, with far less vibration. I would consider this new 90 HO for repowering the Montauk. |
K Albus |
posted 07-08-2013 03:32 PM ET (US)
I used to have a black outboard. It was a real pain keeping that thing looking clean. I now have a bluish/grayish outboard, and it always looks fairly clear with very little effort. |
K Albus |
posted 07-08-2013 03:34 PM ET (US)
. . . it always looks fairly clean with very little effort. |
jimh |
posted 07-08-2013 05:58 PM ET (US)
[I threw out the usual nonsense about Mercury is the best, BRP is doomed, the two-stroke-cycle is doomed, and so on. Only thing missing was the usual claim that no one cares about emission or pollution--jimh]. |
jimh |
posted 07-08-2013 06:00 PM ET (US)
The E-TEC Graphite Series will look like this:
I think this is actually a picture of a custom paint job done for Tracker OEM E-TEC installations last year. Apparently it was so popular and so well received that BRP is making it an option for all customers. |
jimh |
posted 07-08-2013 06:14 PM ET (US)
Also, there will be a new series of engines for pontoon boats. I don't have too much information on these. I think some of the I-3 engines that currently have under-cowling oil tanks will be available with external oil tanks. Adding oil on a pontoon boat to an under-cowling tank might be harder than most of us realize. Also, the gear ratio of the gear case or the size of gear case might be changed to better suit the pontoon application. Sorry, no specifics on this yet. Finally, I should mention, these are not "2014" models. BRP joined the crowd and no longer has model years. But they clearly designate every model evolution with unique model numbers. (Look at SHOP.EVINRUDE.COM to see the new model numbering scheme in action.) And, by the way, I really like that cream color on the top of the cowling. I bet that will look nice on a classic Boston Whaler hull of Desert Tan. |
Peter |
posted 07-08-2013 06:26 PM ET (US)
I like the light colored top. I nearly burned my arm this weekend on the top of one of my dark blue gray cowls getting out of the water. Never used to happen when I had a white Evinrudes. Evinrude still has model year designations just like all outboard makers. This is REQUIRED for emissions regulations compliance. To figure out what model year BRP designated for a particular motor, you need to look at the firt letter in the engine family code on the emissions compliance label #BCX..... where # can be A=2010 |
martyn1075 |
posted 07-08-2013 07:00 PM ET (US)
The decal in the photo posted is busy but nicely done. Whatever you buy good to get covers. Decals peel and fade its the way they are. I would prefer to see something more perforated with paint. Something with a little more shelve life. The cleaner the better. Thats why Whalers look good they are clean simple to the eye nothing really complicated at first glance but the materials and performance speak for themselves. I think the same should be said in the motor and their decals that represent them. Martyn |
L H G |
posted 07-08-2013 07:48 PM ET (US)
Martin - Gaudy is the word you are looking for. Remember their old SEADOO jet boats? The graphics must be done by the same department. It's amazing how plastic cowls over an old cast aluminum midsection from the 80's can be made to look like a 4-stroke Verado. I don't think many Boston Whaler owners will be repowering with one of these two tone things. |
jimh |
posted 07-08-2013 09:03 PM ET (US)
I probably have the bass boat company name wrong. Maybe it is Ranger. All the bass boats I saw this weekend had E-TEC 250 H.O. engines in blue. I think that scheme looks better. The older Johnson gray with red lettering looked better, too. Yes, white is a good engine color. That is why so many guys repaint VERADO engines to white. I have never seen anyone repaint an E-TEC to black. I think that sums it up quite nicely. |
jimh |
posted 07-08-2013 09:42 PM ET (US)
Here is a recent Johnson outboard with a nice gray color scheme. I'd find this quite compatible with the classic look of a Boston Whaler: http://www.quillersoutboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ new-488-1024x768.jpg |
masbama |
posted 07-08-2013 10:51 PM ET (US)
The 90H.O. should be a good re power choice for the current 17 Montauk hull. |
pcrussell50 |
posted 07-09-2013 12:35 AM ET (US)
A little OT but since Jim brought up Ranger boats, aren't they distantly related to Whalers either through an old corporate tie or a Unibond-like construction? My FIL, the pro bass fisherman, is/was sponsored by Ranger and always had a nice shiny new one from them, at least before the previous owners went out of business a few years back, and she said he always had Mercury or Yamaha motors. I don't know if there was a corporate tie between hull and motor or if he had separate engine sponsorship. --Peter |
pcrussell50 |
posted 07-09-2013 12:41 AM ET (US)
Actually, I just did a Google image search on him, and all press pictures of him on the tournament podiums I only saw Mercury on his hat and/or jersey. So maybe an old tie of Mercury to Ranger? --Peter |
K Albus |
posted 07-09-2013 08:32 AM ET (US)
The boat in Jim's picture above with the graphite painted E-Tec is a Ranger, as seen several photos in this thread at the Scream and Fly forum: http://www.screamandfly.com/showthread. php?269142-New-Evinrude-E-TEC-s-on-the-way&p=2500336 |
jimh |
posted 07-09-2013 09:25 AM ET (US)
The paint scheme in the engine shown in the thread Kevin has mentioned seems to be a bit different. The top cowling color looks more gray than creme. It's not the same boat or engine. |
jimh |
posted 07-09-2013 09:30 AM ET (US)
I think that Evinrude has more up their sleeve for 2014 than they've shown so far, but I also think that we will have to wait until February 2014 and the Miami International Boat show to see the rest. |
Peter |
posted 07-09-2013 01:30 PM ET (US)
Rumor season hasn't started yet. ;) |
K Albus |
posted 07-09-2013 02:14 PM ET (US)
Jim - perhaps you didn't scroll down far enough in the thread that I linked. The last picture in the thread appears to be the same boat and motor that are in your picture. |
jimh |
posted 07-10-2013 12:49 AM ET (US)
It might be the same boat, but not the same place or time. |
jimh |
posted 07-10-2013 10:39 AM ET (US)
I believe the boat is a RANGER boat and is also a special anniversary edition. It is a great looking boat, too. The hull has some really nice details seen in just that one view (above). People who dismiss these bass boats as somehow inferior or less sophisticated than a 40-year-old Whaler skiff are incredibly myopic in their viewpoint. That RANGER is a very impressive boat and shows wonderful design and engineering. |
Tohsgib |
posted 07-10-2013 11:40 AM ET (US)
Rangers are also foam filled and unsinkable. |
onlyawhaler |
posted 07-10-2013 12:13 PM ET (US)
Does Ranger make the claim "unsinkable" publically like Boston Whaler does? Thanks |
Tohsgib |
posted 07-10-2013 12:37 PM ET (US)
Don't know...just remember seeing them at NY boat show with parts cut to reveal the foam coring. |
pcrussell50 |
posted 07-10-2013 03:41 PM ET (US)
quote: I knew there was some kine of "tie" between the two, even if it's only philosophical. Two more questions: Is Ranger boats foam fill process in any way similar to Unibond? Was there ever a corporate tie between the two? -Peter |
onlyawhaler |
posted 07-10-2013 03:54 PM ET (US)
I have googled a few things and came up with this interesting video on Rangers "cut away boat" Nice Evinrude 250 on this one. You see a lot of Evinrudes on Rangers website as well. Here is the video, worth watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCRtBO6meAU Sterling |
onlyawhaler |
posted 07-10-2013 04:05 PM ET (US)
I have always admired Ranger boats. I had a 20ft Commanche version in years past and in many ways really miss it. For certain types of fishing, they are unbeatable. Here is another Ranger video showing their "Dream Rig" I believe they are still independent and can bolt up any engine brand you prefer. Its interesting they choose Evinrude on their top end Ranger Commanche in this video and towards the end they list a few reasons why. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCRtBO6meAU Sterling |
onlyawhaler |
posted 07-10-2013 05:26 PM ET (US)
Sorry, incorrect link on the "dream rig" with the Evinrude 250HO Here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z13j9BRatGc Sterling |
onlyawhaler |
posted 07-11-2013 03:27 AM ET (US)
Quote "Ranger is smart to offer a variety of engines to their customers." Yes, they are smart. I wish we could see that with the Whaler line. Sterling |
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