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Moby Dick posted 12-24-2007 12:56 PM ET (US)   Profile for Moby Dick   Send Email to Moby Dick  
Has anyone in the Florida area seen this boat? It seems to be an excellent boat. I'm puzzled by it being for sale for long.

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/0/9/89663409.htm

maverick posted 12-24-2007 04:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for maverick  Send Email to maverick     
wow, nice looking 22 - wish i could afford it - a bit rich for me.
ConB posted 12-24-2007 05:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for ConB  Send Email to ConB     
This would make a nice Gambler Too, eh Dave.

Con

Bulldog posted 12-24-2007 09:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bulldog  Send Email to Bulldog     
Nice boat, I bet it flys. I never saw engine covers with matching graphics for outboards, they look expensive...Jack
andygere posted 12-28-2007 03:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
That will be a very fast Outrage 22. In my opinion, there is too much transom weight for a notched transom 22, and I suspect that static trim is not great. No doubt the boat will easily plane on just one motor, which is nice for offshore use. Too bad they sprung for the nice E-TECs but used the cheapo analog guages instead of I-Command. Also, are the bow cleats and Montauk style nav lights stock for a '91 or is that an aftermarket mod? My '89 has a sampson post and seperate W&C Marinium nav lights. Overall, a nice boat, but it would be better with a pair of V4 E-TECs.
jeffs22outrage posted 12-28-2007 04:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for jeffs22outrage  Send Email to jeffs22outrage     
Propped right that boat might see 60. Our 22 guardian with twin XR6 2.5l V6 Merc 150's Huge Console and T-Top has seen 51 with really crappy aluminum props. Also, I think our motors need to be lifted up another mounting hole. While the Guardian already sits a bit low due to the extra hull weight of a Guardian, 129 gallons of fuel, and the 994+ lbs (pair total) of Merc power on the back here is the static trim.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Torch%20lake/ DSCN4740.jpg

Trolling with this set up will see water over the transom in following seas. The full width splash door on the guardian is a god send in keeping the green water at bay.

With the E Tecs weighing in at 820lbs for the pair, 77 gallon fuel tank (seen on old listing), and with an overall lighter hull I bet the static trim would be better on this 22 than our Guardian. Plus since this is a 1991 Outrage the full width should help corral any green water over the stern while trolling.

As for the gauges, Andy I have to disagree with you. I much prefer the standard analog gauges over the flashy I Command gauges. They look "Vintage Correct" for the boat. Also, in 1991 - 1992 that was the style of bow light on the Outrages. John Flook's 1991 22 has the same bowlight.

L H G posted 12-28-2007 05:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for L H G    
That's the best condition 22 I have ever seen. Worth every penny. What's the value of the engines alone (18K?), and the trailer alone (3K). The boat is actually cheap at 16K. What new single engine Whaler can you get for that price?

If it's too rich for you, buy it, sell off the new engines and fancy trailer, and repower with your own choice. You'd still have a great rig, reasonable.

Perry posted 12-28-2007 06:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
I agree, that is a lot of boat for $37.900. You cant even get a new Outrage 190 for less than that. Someone is going to get a great boat at a good price.
RLwhaler posted 12-28-2007 07:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for RLwhaler  Send Email to RLwhaler     
WoW! gorgeous.Larry is right..best looking 22.To bad it didn't come with a W/D.
jimh posted 12-31-2007 10:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I agree with the appraisals of this boat. Its asking price seems appropriate.

A pair of new V6 engines, installed, rigged, and with gauges and controls would probably cost over $22,500. A really nicely set-up tandem axle trailer with top-grade brakes would easily cost $4,500.

If buyers seem to be showing a lack of interest in this nice boat, it is probably more reflective of the poor market conditions for boats in general, as well as the difficulty in realizing a return on investment when new motors are put on an older boat.

Mambo Minnow posted 12-31-2007 11:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mambo Minnow  Send Email to Mambo Minnow     
I am curious of the size of that rental storage unit. I did not realize they made them big enough to fit a 22 foot boat on a trailer. Most of the standard sizes I see are much smaller.
SpongeBob posted 12-31-2007 12:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for SpongeBob  Send Email to SpongeBob     
I remember someone saying that the newer commercial hulls went to 30" transoms. I can't tell if this one is 30" or not, but that would go a long way toward keeping the water out.

I doubt he keeps in a unit but probably out side in dead storage. He has a "full" cover that appears to cover all the gel coat.

Jeff

andygere posted 12-31-2007 01:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Perhaps the static trim won't be as bad as I anticipated. This particular boat has the advantage of the full width splashwell, which helps a lot.

In terms of guages, I like the I-Command because that have a lot of nice built-in funtionality, which seems a shame to not take advantage of. I think they look pretty good, particularly with the tan faces, which are a nice match for the desert tan gelcoat of the hull and console.

This is not a very good photo, but it gives you the general idea.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/andygere/Repower/IMG_1497.jpg

Overall, this boat is very nice, and the price seems pretty reasonable considering the new premium outboards and overall great condition of the boat. Even the trailer looks like it's brand new.

Yiddil posted 12-31-2007 03:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil    
I'd have to say thats a real good deal for that boat with those engines...@ 13,500 an engine, thats 26-27...so your getting the hull and the trailer for 12-14....Id say that was agreat deal:)

And Id have to agree, a 19 Nantucket/Outrage will run you more than 39,000 if you add a few toys and canvas:)

I personally would not want all that motor sitting there but the idea of selling off the engines etc and reworking this nice boat is also an option.....Ill take a used 150 etec anytime someone wants to make me a cool deal:) hehe

But she a wonderful looking boat, Jack when you spend that kind of money for 2 150 etecs, you can afford to cover um with matching covers from ETEC:))LOL

If I was in the market for a CC id have to seriously consider this along with Daves Outrage coming in first ....

So when I sell Das BOat, look for me:)

Happy New years

whalerfran posted 01-02-2008 01:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerfran    
I recently learned my lesson about judging the condition of a boat from photographs taken by the owner. From the owner's photos of a late model Montauk I only saw online because it was at a distance, I concluded the boat was a cream puff. One of our ContinuousWave members, who lived nearby the owner, did me a huge favor and took numerous, detailed photographs and sent them to me. Suffice it to say, the condition of the boat, motor, and trailer was nowhere near what I had thought. So I advise you to beware of judging a boat by its online photos. A personal inspection is essential to avoid surprises.
Moby Dick posted 01-02-2008 05:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Moby Dick  Send Email to Moby Dick     
Whalerfan.........you're exactly right which is why I posted this in the first place. Has anyone actually looked at this boat?

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