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Penobscot posted 01-01-2008 11:35 PM ET (US)
I'm repowering my classic 16/17 Eastport and I'm wondering if any of you have any suggestions what a good shopping strategies might be to be sure I get a fair price. I'm looking to buy a 50 hp Honda.
Thanks, and happy new year to all!
boatdryver posted 01-02-2008 10:41 AM ET (US)
buy used.
JimL
Roarque posted 01-02-2008 11:11 AM ET (US)
He's right you know. Spend a little time looking for a gem of an engine that somebody no longer needs.
For example, I have a 5 year old Suzuki 60 hp four stroke sitting on my retired Sport 15 in the garage that has not moved for 20 months. Before tucking it away, I had the local Suzuki dealer go aver it with a fine toothed comb and it is perfect, with less than 100 hours on the clock.
What will I get for this engine? About 50 cents on the dollar, if I am lucky. So it sits waiting for someone that I trust to come along and take the entire package off my hands at a bargain.
Tohsgib posted 01-02-2008 11:56 AM ET (US)
Ed's marine superstore has pretty good prices so use that as a benchmark. They do not sell Honda but they sell everything else so you will have an idea of what a 50hp 4s goes for. You must also take into consideration what the engine comes with. Certain manufacturers might include a control box or prop with their smaller engines. I think Suzuki gives you an alum prop on 50hp and smaller. When I looked at Hondas back in 2001 the 90hp came with side mount controls and a SS prop so you would have to figure a Yamaha control and SS prop would be another $600 or so on the engine price, etc.
Lastly I honestly think all engines are VERY well made these days. When I buy an engine I go for price and service. A Honda for me would be at the bottom of the list for those reasons. Suzuki always works out for me but if I found a Yamaha for close in price, no problem with one of those either. Anotherwords if I was you and found a 60hp Yamaha for the same price as a 50hp Honda or a little more, I would go for that. If I found a 50hp Suzuki for $800 less han the Honda I would go for that.
JohnJerk posted 01-02-2008 12:50 PM ET (US)
I have bought three outboards from these guys and have always been pleased:
http://www.boatmotors.com/rebuilt_outboard_motors/
No affiliation. Ed's is cheap, but they won't mail any motor over 25 hp or so.
JohnJerk posted 01-02-2008 12:55 PM ET (US)
In fact the 2007 75hp Merc for $4,999 might be perfect for your boat. That is a great price!
hoppinjohn posted 01-02-2008 04:01 PM ET (US)
Another vote for eds.
I've not seen anyone with consistently GREAT prices.
jb4146 posted 01-02-2008 08:22 PM ET (US)
Okay Roarque, I'll nibble at the bait.
What are you asking for your '02 or '03 60 hp 4 stroke? What is the weight? It sounds like a possible affordable repower option for me. I now have a '90 Evinrude 48 SPL on my Sport 15.
Not that I even have a budget for this, let alone approval from HQ...
Roarque posted 01-03-2008 01:50 AM ET (US)
jb, approval from HQ is the key phrase.
Rest assured that I do not have approval from my HQ to sell this little princess. I know it sounded like I was fishing but after you've been on CW for a while, you will learn that most of us are so emotionally attached to these "wee barqs" that few will part with them.
Regarding the Suzy, in my opinion it is too heavy for the BW 15 but I own it so it'll do. If I was you and the time was now, I would look very hard at the ETEC for it is the 2 stroke engine that the 15 was designed to fit.

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Author	Topic: New motor buying advice
Penobscot	posted 01-01-2008 11:35 PM ET (US) I'm repowering my classic 16/17 Eastport and I'm wondering if any of you have any suggestions what a good shopping strategies might be to be sure I get a fair price. I'm looking to buy a 50 hp Honda. Thanks, and happy new year to all!
boatdryver	posted 01-02-2008 10:41 AM ET (US) buy used. JimL
Roarque	posted 01-02-2008 11:11 AM ET (US) He's right you know. Spend a little time looking for a gem of an engine that somebody no longer needs. For example, I have a 5 year old Suzuki 60 hp four stroke sitting on my retired Sport 15 in the garage that has not moved for 20 months. Before tucking it away, I had the local Suzuki dealer go aver it with a fine toothed comb and it is perfect, with less than 100 hours on the clock. What will I get for this engine? About 50 cents on the dollar, if I am lucky. So it sits waiting for someone that I trust to come along and take the entire package off my hands at a bargain.
Tohsgib	posted 01-02-2008 11:56 AM ET (US) Ed's marine superstore has pretty good prices so use that as a benchmark. They do not sell Honda but they sell everything else so you will have an idea of what a 50hp 4s goes for. You must also take into consideration what the engine comes with. Certain manufacturers might include a control box or prop with their smaller engines. I think Suzuki gives you an alum prop on 50hp and smaller. When I looked at Hondas back in 2001 the 90hp came with side mount controls and a SS prop so you would have to figure a Yamaha control and SS prop would be another $600 or so on the engine price, etc. Lastly I honestly think all engines are VERY well made these days. When I buy an engine I go for price and service. A Honda for me would be at the bottom of the list for those reasons. Suzuki always works out for me but if I found a Yamaha for close in price, no problem with one of those either. Anotherwords if I was you and found a 60hp Yamaha for the same price as a 50hp Honda or a little more, I would go for that. If I found a 50hp Suzuki for $800 less han the Honda I would go for that.
JohnJerk	posted 01-02-2008 12:50 PM ET (US) I have bought three outboards from these guys and have always been pleased: http://www.boatmotors.com/rebuilt_outboard_motors/ No affiliation. Ed's is cheap, but they won't mail any motor over 25 hp or so.
JohnJerk	posted 01-02-2008 12:55 PM ET (US) In fact the 2007 75hp Merc for $4,999 might be perfect for your boat. That is a great price!
hoppinjohn	posted 01-02-2008 04:01 PM ET (US) Another vote for eds. I've not seen anyone with consistently GREAT prices.
jb4146	posted 01-02-2008 08:22 PM ET (US) Okay Roarque, I'll nibble at the bait. What are you asking for your '02 or '03 60 hp 4 stroke? What is the weight? It sounds like a possible affordable repower option for me. I now have a '90 Evinrude 48 SPL on my Sport 15. Not that I even have a budget for this, let alone approval from HQ...
Roarque	posted 01-03-2008 01:50 AM ET (US) jb, approval from HQ is the key phrase. Rest assured that I do not have approval from my HQ to sell this little princess. I know it sounded like I was fishing but after you've been on CW for a while, you will learn that most of us are so emotionally attached to these "wee barqs" that few will part with them. Regarding the Suzy, in my opinion it is too heavy for the BW 15 but I own it so it'll do. If I was you and the time was now, I would look very hard at the ETEC for it is the 2 stroke engine that the 15 was designed to fit.