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Ferdinando posted 03-03-2008 01:13 PM ET (US)   Profile for Ferdinando   Send Email to Ferdinando  
Well sold my Montauk & just bought me the Montauk 190. Delivery in about a month & a half. $38,000 with the 115, could not spring for the 135 as it was $4,000 more. Any comments or recommedations for outfitting would be welcomed.

Question, does the Mercury gauges include an hour meter????

I did not buy the livewell just the bimini, comfort package & boarding platform.

I'm slightly concerened about the engine as I've never owned a Merc before and I would have preffered an E-Tec or Yamaha. I was not able to swing a different engine so Mercury it is. I now know what it's like to feel like a kid again

Fred

chopbuster posted 03-03-2008 01:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for chopbuster    
Looks like you had a bad case of the dreaded two-footitis.

Nice cure !

Obviously you can add accessories and make Mods similar to the 170.

Do a search on CW for 190 advice and suggestions.

Enjoy your new addition.

Liteamorn posted 03-03-2008 07:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Liteamorn  Send Email to Liteamorn     
If you have the SmartGuage system from Merc they have all kinds of info available, hours, break in hours, gph, mpg plus a lot of oil info if you have a 2 stroke (methinks you have a Verado.) Those guages are accurate too.
seabob4 posted 03-03-2008 10:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for seabob4  Send Email to seabob4     
Ferdinando,
You should have gotten a Smartcraft Users manual in your Owner's package (you know, all the crap you get in the nice valise you get with your new boat). This will tell EVERYTHING that those gauges can display, and how to get them to display whatever. Your dealer should have gone over this with you. Do you have Smartcraft gauges? If you do, do you know if you press and hold both outer buttons, you will see "Master Reset"? Do you know what this does? Do you know what Cal 1 and Cal 2 are? Read your Smartcraft Manual, press your dealer to show you what you NEED to know, and if you have any other questions, drop me a line. seabob4@earthlink.net.
Ferdinando posted 03-03-2008 10:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ferdinando  Send Email to Ferdinando     
Thks Seabob but I'm still a month and a half away from getting my boat. I'll see if the dealer can get me an engine manual before I get the boat.

Thks for your offer I'll take you up on it if I have any questions.

Fred

Steve772 posted 03-03-2008 10:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Steve772  Send Email to Steve772     
Ferdinando,

Congratulations you will love the 190 Montauk!

The 115 HP package does not come with an hour meter or the SmartGuage system.

We have had no issues with our 115 (7 weeks old). We use the boat often, about 3 days a week and have only used $122.17 (33.5 gallons) of fuel so far (we just refilled for the first time). We don't go very far when we fish, and we are really impressed how quiet and efficient the motor operates.

Good luck, I am happy to help.

Steve

Ferdinando posted 03-03-2008 10:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ferdinando  Send Email to Ferdinando     
Steve;

How does the ride compare with the older Montauks. Do you have the front insert package? What are the highs & lows in your 7 week experience with your boat.

What did it cost.

Sorry for all the questions I want to leran all I can before I get my paws on it.

Thks for your help.

Fred

Dan posted 03-03-2008 11:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dan  Send Email to Dan     
Congratulations. If you've just made the order, maybe you could forgo the bimini and comfort package and get the bigger motor. After all you can always get the bimini and other stuff later. This way you will have the extra power, better guages, and better resale value. Just my 2 cents. I've never ridden in a Montauk 19 and am not speaking from experience on this issue.
Steve772 posted 03-04-2008 04:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Steve772  Send Email to Steve772     
Fred,

Sorry, I am not the one to ask older vs. new questions, because this is my first Whaler. I can say the 190 Montauk is a good dry running boat, and a very stable fishing platform (it doesn't rock a lot, because of the reverse chine).

I really don't want to talk about pricing, do your homework.

I am not sure what the insert package is (cushions?), but most of that kind of stuff you can add at any time.

Let me make this point clear, our 190 Montauk is a fishing boat. We fish inshore, we use the boat more as a flats fishing boat than an offshore fishing boat. Most everything that is done on our boat is geared towards fishing. We sit on the two cushions that came with the boat (inc. fishing package). We don't want to trip over the cushions that go up forward. My suggestion would be, think what you are going to use the boat for, add the items that you need to add when built (Livewell, 135 hp engine, fish package, swim platform etc.) and then after that add items as you need them.

Highs, almost everything about the boat; I guess the best answer a new owner could say would be "We would do it all over again; we know that this is the perfect boat for us"!

Lows, I hope you don't like your privacy, because everybody wants to talk to you about the boat <G> (I am an outgoing type person so that really doesn't bother me). At the dock it's like a mini daily boat show, people coming by asking questions, telling stories etc. We have had people turn their boats around in the ICW, come back to get a better look (we don't mind as long as we are not fishing).

Hope this helps,
Steve


Ferdinando posted 03-04-2008 05:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ferdinando  Send Email to Ferdinando     
Steve:

Thks for the info, I too will use her for mostly fishing.

Fred

Steve772 posted 03-04-2008 06:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Steve772  Send Email to Steve772     
Fred,

I thought about it a bit more; I believe the real highlights of the boat for me is:

It's quiet and very affordable to run and that 8' beam is great, especially the fact that it's 8’ wide up to the bow.

Also of course... that "It's a Whaler Dude" (BTW/ It's a Whaler Dude is what we named her).

Steve

Steve772 posted 03-04-2008 06:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Steve772  Send Email to Steve772     
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sheikofthesea posted 03-06-2008 10:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for sheikofthesea  Send Email to sheikofthesea     
I had my Montauk 190 all of last year. Fished it very hard.

I put the front bow cushion and back seat in when I am just cruising with friends or family. Have the bimini up alot of the time just to keep from getting cancer and letting older folks stay out longer in the sun. It is a beautiful boat. The 8 foot beam gives you such a stable platform and plenty of room to dance around the boat. I have the 115. The owners with the 135 like their bigger engine better but I have had zero problems with the 115, it is smooth and quiet and the gas mileage is excellent. The gallon tank lets you fuel up and forget your worries.
I can slip into the back bays put up the engine and pole around, or power through Hell Gate the East River and out into the Atlantic Ocean. I have got a number 7 Fortress anchor and a Danforth in the center console seat locker. I attached four Taco adjustible rodholders to the side rails for trolling and drifting. It is a beautiful boat for fishing and and a gorgeous boat for people who just want a ride, go swimming and watch the sunset. The handling is excellent. I have been out in several small craft advisories and it takes a 4 foot chop like a champ. Again it is so stable that even rough seas don't really rock it too much when you are at anchor. I had to add oil twice over the entire year. Banged the bottom of the engine against the rocks but that's what you get when you succumb to Striper fever and you are prowling the rocks. It is sitting in my driveway right now. Can't wait to get it into the water April 5th.


Enjoy this boat you and yours will have a blast.


Sheik

Ferdinando posted 03-08-2008 12:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ferdinando  Send Email to Ferdinando     
Sheik:

Would you know if your gas tank is made out of plastic or aluminum?????

Thks,

Fred

deepwater posted 03-08-2008 04:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for deepwater  Send Email to deepwater     
congrats on the new whaler
sheikofthesea posted 03-09-2008 07:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for sheikofthesea  Send Email to sheikofthesea     
Dear Ferdinando:


It is plastic. You have to stick your head into the bilge area to see what is going on in there. I find the gas meter unreliable. With the great gas mileage you fill it up and you go for days and days and then all of sudden you need some more gas.


This is a great boat. You will have so much fun.

Whaler_Jack posted 03-09-2008 08:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler_Jack  Send Email to Whaler_Jack     
Ferdinando,

I've owned the Classic Montauk , 170 Montauk and now the 190. There is no comparison in the classic and the 190. The 190 is a much bigger, heavier and more stable boat. I too got the sun lounge, bimini, vhf radio, GPS, second battery, hour meter, fuel filter, rear seat over the bait well and the bait well. I believe the bait tank is simply plumbed at the dealership if you get it? This was last April (2007 model)and paid somewhere around $36500. You are going to really enjoy this boat. The only thing I might do differently is get a different trailer, the factory trailer is pretty cheesy and plumb the bait well myself. They did a poor job on that.

Jack

Ferdinando posted 03-09-2008 09:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ferdinando  Send Email to Ferdinando     
Jack:

If you paid $36.5 It looks like my deal was not so bad considering I live in PR as I paid $38.0 although I don't have the electronics or the rear baitwell seat.

Can you tell me how wide is the boat on the trailer. I am almost sure she will fit in my garage but it might be a tight fit. My garage is 9'.5" wide.

Thks,

Fred

Ferdinando posted 03-09-2008 09:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ferdinando  Send Email to Ferdinando     
One other question which might be a dumb one. I did not order the rear livewell and I think it is part of the molding. Can I use it as a cooler and does it have drainage if I decide to use it as a cooler.

Thks,

Fred

Steve772 posted 03-10-2008 12:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for Steve772  Send Email to Steve772     
Fred,

The boat on the trailer is a total of 8'6" wide.

You can use the live well as a cooler, I have been told it has a drain (even though it is not plumbed for a live well), but I don't know for sure.

Steve

Whaler_Jack posted 03-10-2008 09:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler_Jack  Send Email to Whaler_Jack     
Ferdinando,

I think it would be a very tight fit for your garage and it sit very high on trailer. I think about 8' my garage door is only seven feet. So, I have a storage unit. Sounds like you got a similar deal! I basically paid list and they through in a few of the little things, fuel filter, hour meter, etc.. And agreed that you can use the live well as cooler. I do that often. I can't remember if the dealer cut the drain hole in the hull or it came that way and they installed the pump?

Jack

Ferdinando posted 03-10-2008 11:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ferdinando  Send Email to Ferdinando     
Jack & Steve:

Thks for all the info. At least I know that width wide it fits. Ht wise I have exactly 8' 1". Pls don't tell me it's over that height. By the way what size speakers does it have on the raer of the console, they look like 6.5.

Again thanks for all your help now if I can only make it till July........

Fred

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