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Thinking about seling my boat need advise
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posted 03-13-2008 04:30 AM ET (US)
I am getting married soon and I am thinking about selling my customized 1984 13'4" Boston whaler. I live in Florida.
The hull is in good shape for its age. I customized a center console that is, in my opinion, proportionally correct. It has a 1985 Evinrude 30 HP. Some of the wiring in the engine needs some minor repair but it works and runs solid. I take the boat up and down he st johns river form Orlando to the Ocala National Forest all the time, as well as running the intercostal.ALL DAY LONG... it averages 28 to 30 mpr (per GPS)
Transom trolling motor
boat with the engine weighs less than 600 lbs.
What do you guys think i can get for that. I hate to part since i did the custom work, but i need some cash for my wedding, plus i will probably upgrade with a bigger project boat (whaler of course)
if this pick (below) does not work, i like to show you some picks of the boat.
posted 03-13-2008 04:56 AM ET (US)
It is a very simple and clean set up maximizing the boat's space. I was thinking $3500, is that too much to little? I know people typically look for he original BW teak set up, but my goal for this vessel was practicality. I weigh 210 lbs and ride this thing with a Friend NO problem.
I forgot to mention that i also have a Bimini top for the boat
posted 03-13-2008 07:43 AM ET (US)
That is a nice clean looking little rig. I think that $3,500.00 is a fair price for it. You may want to ask 4,000 and take 3,500.00.
What you want to do is check out your competition. Go to traderonline.com and do a search for 13 Whalers, maybe from 1980 to 1990, in Florida. Check the asking prices,
Another factor is how fast you need the $$. If you need it quick, ask $3,500, say "Priced for quick sale" in the ad.
I dont think you will have any problem selling that boat.
posted 03-13-2008 11:45 AM ET (US)
Tito, my brother, not to get into a man's business but -
What do you mean "you need cash for the wedding?" - How about we take up a collection and get you guys a plane ticket to Vegas for Church of Elvis? Or a retreat w/ your Whaler pals to help you think this over? I can work with either plan.
This is like selling your hunting dog, your Weatherby or your Martin guitar, or that Winston fly rod or your dad's gold watch!! It's only one day, Tito!!!! I know it's love man but you will be aching for that Whaler, I swear, and your wife will miss going out for sunset cruises with a nice bottle of Pinot Noir and oysters, I got that right don't I?
Where's the boat? I'll get Len and cousin Garry to come get it and hide it for you till after the honey moon or six month infatuation period. Things mostly go to real life after that - except for me and FiFi of course, we are so in love, heaven everyday, my love, my life, my wife! Oh ya, you gotta know your priorities and I mean all priorities.
What up with the father in-law and her dowry? Does she have a Montauk or an Outrage? Tell us she's bringing her own Whaler into the family. And if she has that Montauk you gotta tell her "honey, we simply have to save the 13 for our daughter, she'll need the keys by the time she turns 7.
Did you ever think of getting married in the Whaler? Hey, my buddy Jeff got married on the fan tail of a sailboat, all the guests were on pontoon boats anchored up tight the the stern of the sailboat. Think about that - save the money for the hall!!
Don't sell the Whaler man - you will regret it. Church of Elvis, preacher with your family, judge, party later, a few flowers and cake from Costco or Sam's Club -
Hope you're not pissed, I sincerely wish you best of luck to you and many happy years, prosperity, health and all the rest and hope you two are as happy as we are.
posted 03-13-2008 12:03 PM ET (US)
That was beautiful man!
posted 03-13-2008 12:58 PM ET (US)
The only thing I give up for a wife is my old one. I have been married four times and never sold anything for a wedding.
But I will help hide this boat.
Good Luck in your boatless life;o)
posted 03-13-2008 12:59 PM ET (US)
Welcome to the forum.
posted 03-13-2008 01:23 PM ET (US)
OMG that was beautifully put!
Pete, You are correct and i am totally with you on your thoughts. TRUST ME. To be detailed the cash is to extend my honeymoon in the Caribbean and my plan is to take on a larger project boat after the wedding.
After I get married, I'm leaning towards getting a hold of a 1970's outrage 19' and converting it to a low profile. with a cobia style alluminium console. My other option was to go for a panga hull, but my loyalty still remains with the BW. So the low profile, to me sounds very attractive. especially in FL. The low profile, to me would be the best replacement of this whaler. one foot wider and 6 feet longer with a panga style nose,,,uhhmmmm... so know that I am not getting rid of my Martin Guitar, im upgrading to a better one.I spent too many years in this state taking for granted all the water ways this place has to offer, I am not willing to give that up. Plus SHE is also down with the water. below is a picture of the boat when i first put an engine on it,rigged the original style console and took it to its maiden voyage to disappearing island in New Smyrna FL...
I originally bought my boat Hull only and built it all my self. rigged all the steering engine etc. after much research on this and other websites, i could not find a good example of a center console on a 13' that looked right (IMO). Eventually i found the console that you see on the boat now and boom! a perfect fit.
I recycled the old teak that and made the compartment you see there. the wood was full of holes and very very dry. so i used a white urethane paint. I have picks of the entire process. It is a beauty, but man i must part.
So, Pete I saw your email on your profile and I must ask. How many Tito's from Florida have you met? you know were i am getting at? Because I bet you are in Michigan!
posted 03-13-2008 01:32 PM ET (US)
Len how funny is it that i saw you respond then i noticed that you have a low profile!!!! just after i spoke about that!
how do you feel about that boat do you know the hull weight?(no engine). is it an original low pro or did you convert an old outrage?
posted 03-13-2008 01:36 PM ET (US)
Pete, This is Tito form Team Pain
posted 03-13-2008 01:41 PM ET (US)
DAAAAAAAAmmmmmm!!!! TITO!, right on! I heard Tim's coming up here soon to build modern!!!!
Welcome aboard bro, These are good people, you just missed a Montauk, fresh water, for $1800, well so did I! Needed power.
Stay with it, catch you soon!!!!
posted 03-13-2008 02:38 PM ET (US)
The hull should weigh 1200 lbs. It was a 1978 Outrage. I love the way it looks and is very stable on the water. It is way more than 1 foot wider, more like 2 foot.
It will be for sale soon, oh, that's right you are getting married;o)
posted 03-13-2008 04:38 PM ET (US)
posted 03-13-2008 05:09 PM ET (US)
Can sell with or with out engine but it is a clean 200.
Price is market make offers.
Checked out teampain looks like a fun job.
GL on the wedding. Your boat looks very nicely done. EBay is the place to get the money put up a video of it in action.
posted 03-13-2008 05:10 PM ET (US)
Where does Volcom come into play?
posted 03-13-2008 06:15 PM ET (US)
that side of the engine had the label torn off so i had slapped the sticker on there for no reason whatsoever. it used to look like this.
this was the hull when i first purchased it:
posted 03-13-2008 08:50 PM ET (US)
Tito, where did you get that console? That setup is exactly what I was thinking of, right up until I sold my project 13 to a close friend, who's now jonesing for a center console version of his own.
What a great set up. You'll get 3500 easy...
posted 03-14-2008 02:58 AM ET (US)
Well, I was in Fort Pierce Florida at this place that dedicates on buying all the leftover stock form boat companies when they change their manufacturing parts for the next years models. EXPECIALLLY BOSTON WHALERS. they have two 15,000 warehouses filled with all kinds of stuff. one thing that i happened to walk upon was two industrial racks that measured 6 feet by 12 feet filled with random whaler teak for 13' to 17 foot whalers! you have to rummage but man it is insane its condition, all new and Original and sometimes some used stuff. they had a pile of cushions that made a 9 foot tall mountain, kind of overwhelming but definitely almost worth dedicated visit. i happen to know this guy that works there.
that console was only $110 bucks! sticker price and they have plenty more options. Here you go.enjoy!!!
this place is one reason why i would have to problem making another BW custom project...
Marine Connection Liquidators
posted 03-14-2008 05:26 AM ET (US)
Hey Tito - - you think they have any bow cushions for Classic 13? Ellen wants one real bad. I will be sending you some stuff on your email. We have lots of new projects including some parks. Give my best to Tim. More later.
posted 03-14-2008 08:05 AM ET (US)
Pete the pile of cushions i was talking about was no joke. You can give them a shot and just call them. If you know what you need, call ask for help. If that does not work(you never know who you are gonna get on the phone and how they will feel searching trough that monster pile) We are currently constructing a park in the town so I will be going there within the next few weeks and I will look. if I happen to find one I will ask them to put it aside on your name and I will contact you. but try to call them first, they are mostly really cool.
posted 03-14-2008 10:53 AM ET (US)
Pete you can get a bow cushion on e-bay for $99. I bought the whole set for my 13'...nice.
posted 03-15-2008 08:47 AM ET (US)
First, congratulations and all best wishes for a lifetime of good stuff together.
Now I am going to explain something to you about how women think. Please don't tell anyone...I could get drummed right out of the women's union for divulging this kind of information.
"Down with the water" isn't good enough. You need to carefully, casually, clarify with your intended that she specifically is down with the BOAT thing. "Down with the water" could mean a stroll along the shore.
If she is indeed down with the boat, then your plan is sound.
If, however, you find that somehow she has failed to grasp the role of the boat in your life, in your future together, then DO NOT SELL THE BOAT.
Because we think like this:
"I married a man with a boat. My husband comes with a boat. A boat is part of the package. It is part of my husband's identity."
"My husband sold his boat to pay for our honeymoon. Boats are an option in his life."
posted 03-15-2008 01:36 PM ET (US)
thanks for the words Sheila
so you know
She met me with no boat.
Then saw me show up with a boat hull no engine. Much like showing up with a found kitten off the street.
I said that this boat hull will be up and running in one year.
Three months later we are talking the boat on a test runs in the inter coastal.
At the 5th month the boat is complete and is operational.
a year later the boat has been used every other weekend.
However now we have another member in our family and she is getting a bit big. (dogie)
I will be upgrading soon. Hell I might even buy new. it is just hard to beat the older whaler's style.
Plus I have plans and a vision of a boat that i must pursue.
I can see it now...
Who knows! give me 10 years and I will probably be taking day trips to Bimini after a few more upgrades!
posted 03-15-2008 10:29 PM ET (US)
Sheila, right on - Tito, we know Sheila, spent time w/ her in San Diego she lives by that Ocean Beach park that's all cracked worse than any Michigan park I have ever seen - I got the pictures.
Tito - that 13 is perfect for fun times and w/ enough HP you can pull tubes and maybe more. Riley should be ready to rip with it with his pals, I do all kinds of crazy stuff w/ ours. I will send you some photos.
We gotta get Buckda to post the video of him running his 15 in rough water chasing bigger Whalers. 15s are super cool too which he had before his 18 w/ twin Etec 90s.
Everyone here's got your back bro, I swear.
posted 03-16-2008 12:29 AM ET (US)
Pete, you mean the first ever concrete park that we built before there were any of the "big"three" from out west that started it all?
yeah that park was a learning lesson. and the crew, then uhhhh..., we'll leave it at "then"
Funny, I worked on my boat most of the day today. I'm pretty stoked on it. If I keep it, I'm going to have to get you guys to find me a nicer engine...Just kidding, there are plenty here in FL... But don't get me wrong that 30 HP runs two very nice. 29 mph!! that is good river speed. and plenty to get my where i need.
my issues with the engines, the new ones too heavy. the only new one that i would get would be a 2 stroke Yamaha but they only make it at 50HP. and If i get a 50 HP no dealer will mount. I have to problem mounting one, but will that affect the warranty? ehhh,,,still plenty of cheap fresh river water ex-pontoon 40 HP Yamahas in the area...
Pete, nice boats man, and your bud's whaler (outrage) is a killer one. I love that one, that is one of my potential project possibilities if I were to ever have a small open ocean rig. the right twin set up and you are in the Bahamas or Keys...but in all, I just think they look awesome... the fire/rescue edition. It is just this GAS! its making me also entertain the panga Hull.
blah blah blah
i put the thing on Craig's list as a feeler. Dam! plenty of emails...
Have a good one!
posted 03-16-2008 06:55 AM ET (US)
I think that's a Spitfire sticker, not Volcom. (used to own 180 sk8 shop in Manistee, MI) Three sons, all who sk8, I was going broke keepin' em in decks.
posted 03-16-2008 06:59 AM ET (US)
posted 03-16-2008 07:57 AM ET (US)
NO MAN, McIntyre Park they built just before you guys built ours - they almost got the bid and we had to pull some moves, your stuff is the best and you know that - our park is the testimonial to surviving freeze thaw cycles built in worst case place, DNR wetland and lousy drainage with no drains. That Ocean Beach park is the one with the blue fences - check you email.
I've been trying to do a Whaler Throwdown: Classic 13 Races - get Tim to call Knoxville. BE a flippin blast!! My Yamaha screams, I'll get Len to set me up a prop or some nitrous.
posted 03-16-2008 07:59 AM ET (US)
13s are weird, they only go so fast no matter how many ponies you put on the back. Whaler geeks can explain, some flip in the hull at the stern.
posted 03-16-2008 12:22 PM ET (US)
$10 says it's VOlcom
posted 03-16-2008 07:51 PM ET (US)
you are both correct. one of you is looking at an early pick of my boat before i put a CC on it. Look the the other links to see it now. now i put a Volocm sticker over the spitfire....LOL
Pete, that sucks about that park. moreover the MI one with water seeping! bummer.
here is the coco beach park as i was there judging the masters division and sneaking in some shots at the Fl bowl rider's cup.... Yes coco beach which happens to be in 2' from sea level.... Grade up!
Curt Meager Baker 2nd place/ Team Pain concrete crew.
posted 04-08-2008 11:53 PM ET (US)
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