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JayR posted 03-19-2008 05:41 AM ET (US)   Profile for JayR   Send Email to JayR  
Injury forces sale... Motor vehicle accident exacerbated a previous injury and blew up an additional cervical disc.
Due to this, I'll be going under the knife for another set of disc surgeries and it would be a very bad idea to continue using the boat, even after recuperation.
Rather than tempt fate, I have decided to remove the temptation and not keep this wonderful old classic. I'll just get hurt once again. This spine just can handle the water any longer :-(

The E-TEC 150 has about 60 hours on it.
I-Command gauges.....
The wood console and gunwale teak has seen a few seasons of weather and could use some touch-up. The anchor locker, forward platform and cooler seat are still perfect as I have had them in storage.

$19,000 Firm

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/BigJayR/boating/05192006046-1.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/BigJayR/boating/170bb027.jpg

jasonricher@cox.net


JayR posted 03-19-2008 05:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/BigJayR/boating/05192006043.jpg
JayR posted 03-19-2008 05:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/BigJayR/boating/06152006011.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/BigJayR/boating/02232006006.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/BigJayR/boating/05192006046.jpg

JayR posted 03-19-2008 05:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
There a set and some extras of the full Mills canvas as well. Older canvas with all the hardware. I never installed it. Some blue canvas and some old toast.

I also have a full sized Mills bimini top that will go with this sale as well.

John McBride posted 03-19-2008 10:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for John McBride  Send Email to John McBride     
WOW

Best BW I have ever seen.

jamesmylesmcp posted 03-19-2008 12:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for jamesmylesmcp  Send Email to jamesmylesmcp     
Jay,you and this boat have been an inspiration to myself and others on this site!I pray you'll find the relief you deserve, if there is anything I can do don't hesitate to ask,Jim
sraab928 posted 03-19-2008 06:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for sraab928  Send Email to sraab928     
Jay she is a beauty - Sorry to hear you have to sell her...

Is that Gelcoat original?

Is there a story that goes with the beaching pictures? Pretty wild.

Inabanus posted 03-19-2008 07:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Inabanus  Send Email to Inabanus     
JayR,

We have not met or spoken, but I recall you communicating via email last year when I was organizing the First Annual RI Whaler Rendezvous, and I have actually seen your boat being trailered on Route 146 in northern RI.

I am sorry to hear that you must sell her, and I understand not wanting to injure yourself further. I am writing, however, to extend an invitation to take a calm harbor cruise around Newport anytime you desire. I have a 170 Montauk that certainly is not as nice as your vessel, but it may alleviate the blues of not having your vessel once it is sold. I launch almost every week, in the summer, from various ramps in Rhode Island, and you are always welcome to join me as I am sure we can find a calm area where you would not feel the pounding of the open sections of Narragansett Bay.

My cell is 401-529-7052 and email is jmcaloon2@cox.net.

Fair tides,

Inabanus

shipskip posted 03-19-2008 10:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for shipskip  Send Email to shipskip     
"quote

[snip] I am writing, however, to extend an invitation to take a calm harbor cruise around Newport anytime you desire...[snip]... and you are always welcome to join me as I am sure we can find a calm area where you would not feel the pounding of the open sections of Narragansett Bay.

Fair tides,
Inabanus

end quote"

What a wonderful gesture extended to a fellow CW member and owner (soon to be 'former owner' due to personal adversity). If I resided on the right coast, I'd jump into this scenario as an uninvited 3rd party, protocol be damned. Kudos to Inabanus.

shipskip posted 03-19-2008 10:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for shipskip  Send Email to shipskip     
"quote

[snip] I am writing, however, to extend an invitation to take a calm harbor cruise around Newport anytime you desire...[snip]... and you are always welcome to join me as I am sure we can find a calm area where you would not feel the pounding of the open sections of Narragansett Bay.

Fair tides,
Inabanus

end quote"

What a wonderful gesture extended to a fellow CW member and owner (soon to be 'former owner' due to personal adversity). If I resided on the right coast, I'd jump into this scenario as an uninvited 3rd party, protocol be damned. Kudos to Inabanus.

shipskip posted 03-19-2008 10:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for shipskip  Send Email to shipskip     
double post. sorry.
friend99 posted 03-19-2008 11:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for friend99    
Beautiful boat. Best wishes for your surgery and a speedy recovery. God Bless.
JayR posted 03-20-2008 03:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
Inabanus, thanks for that gesture. It is most appreciated.

sternorama posted 03-20-2008 11:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for sternorama  Send Email to sternorama     
That is a class act! Any more pictures or discussions of performance, speeds, fuel burn or anything would be very interesting. I wish I could see this boat in person!
Novi posted 03-20-2008 11:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for Novi  Send Email to Novi     
Hi JayR, sorry to hear about your situation. I too have a Outrage 21. Hull #185. As well, I have a 150 ETec and was wondering what sort of top end speed you get. I have had lots of conversations with others about this and have always thought my prop was configured for power and not speed. I don't have the prop specs with me but top end I get at about 5200rpm is about 38mph. Does that sound about right to you? Good luck with your sale and no offence to others but the ribbed Outrage 21 was the best of the best IMHO, cheers, Sean
JayR posted 03-20-2008 08:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
I'm running a 14.8 x 17 aluminum prop and top out just under 5300 RPMs.
I get 43 to 46 MPH according to the GPS.

Way too much torque getting up on plane.It's like the rug is getting pulled out from under me. It's too fast out of the hole for my liking and I would like to see more top end for those rare days it is flat calm.

EIKNIB posted 03-20-2008 08:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for EIKNIB    
Sorry to hear of your accident Jay, I know giving up this beautiful Whaler will be painful. I hope your not going to give up boating for good. Get a displacement boat. We`ll all wind up in them anyway when the price of gas forces us too.
Rich
Novi posted 03-23-2008 12:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Novi  Send Email to Novi     
Hi JayR, absolutely a powerful hole shot. I have had 6 or more folks with me and just about lost the works of them over the transom. It also explains why I have to get my console refastened this year, too many folks hanging on to it for takeoff. Great fun though. Good luck with your sale and especially your recovery, if you ever find yourself in Nova Scotia on a calm summer's day, you are always welcome to take mine out. All the best, Sean
JayR posted 03-23-2008 04:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
I would love to move to Nova Scotia...
I looked into it a few years ago and I'm sorry I did not do it at the time. The dollar was much stronger then.

I've told a few people of the hole shot and they all think I am exaggerating. Last time I felt torque like this was in my youth on a rice rocket. Damn bike red-lined at 10,500 rpms...

I honestly find the throttle too responsive in the lower half of its movement. It's like getting shot out of a cannon.

How's the weather in NS today?

elaelap posted 03-24-2008 04:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Without doubt, one of the most beautiful Boston Whalers I've ever seen, and with a new motor as well! I've been traveling and just opened up Marketplace for the first time in about a month, Jay. I'm sorry to hear about your accident and the concomitant need to sell your beautiful boat. Someone will be very lucky indeed; I only hope that he/she cares for the craft as well as you have...of course the new owner won't have the pleasure of recreating her as you have done.

You know that anytime you make it out to the San Francisco Bay area you'll always have a Whaler to cruise/fish in, but our current partnership BW, while dearly loved, looks like a garbage scow compared with your old beauty. Best of luck with your sale.

Tony

JayR posted 03-25-2008 05:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
Thanks Tony! Much appreciated.

I've had several people here looking at her but my idea of "firm" was a little different than theirs.

My wife isn't too happy with me about this...

Novi posted 03-25-2008 09:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for Novi  Send Email to Novi     
Hi JayR, for such a large boat it does take off and I presume the ETEC is at least patially responsible, light and powerful. I always tell people to hang on and they sort of look at me like an idiot and when I floor it, they get the point, usually as they are flying aft.

I don't think you would be very happy with the weather here today, cold (28F), grey and breezy. My boat comes out of the shop with new Awlgrip in early April and by then things will have turned around I hope. The following link will give you a view of the harbour similar to my office view. I keep my whaler (during summer) at a little marina in the foreground. As I said before if you find yourself up this way, let me know, cheers, Sean

http://www.cbc.ca/ns/webcam/webcam.html

JayR posted 03-25-2008 02:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
You are fortunate to have such a view.... I look out at a swamp / beaver pond.
Novi posted 03-25-2008 04:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Novi  Send Email to Novi     
Biggest problem is getting work done. It is a 2 minute walk from the office to the marina and in late Spring, Summer and Fall it is way too easy to just goof-off. I walk to the boat and go right by a beer store and two pizza places. I often take the office people out at lunch hour to watch the whales off the harbour or just tour the waterfront and watch the tourists. After lunch I drop them off and go touring about some more. Productivity is not so good on sunny days but it makes up for days like now when I am frosted over or raining foggy days. Praying for warmer weather soon, cheers, Sean
JayR posted 04-02-2008 06:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
Just bumping this back to th top in case someone may have missed it.
flippa posted 04-04-2008 11:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for flippa  Send Email to flippa     
Jay

Awesome boat!!! Sorry to see you selling her; best wishes with surgury & recovery.

If I had the spare cash lying around, it would be in my driveway.

Good luck.

Larry

JayR posted 04-15-2008 04:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
Boat is no longer available.
I'm going in for surgery shortly and I do not have the time to deal with it. It will stay under it's winter cover until better days arrive. I'll decide what to do at that point. Hopefully, I'll be repaired well enough to keep her.
wezie posted 04-15-2008 07:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for wezie  Send Email to wezie     
We'll be thinking very positive thoughts.
Best Wishes
John
Sal A posted 04-15-2008 08:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
Best of luck Jay. I have a bad back too. Yours sounds worse.

Your 21 Outrage is awesome. You do serious work.

HAPPYJIM posted 04-15-2008 08:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
You will be in my thoughts and prayers and hope you will be better to enjoy many years in that beautiful Whaler.
JayR posted 04-15-2008 08:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
Thanks for the thoughts.
It's not the back at the moment. Well, it is and it isn't.

I'm going in for two surgeries on the 6th and 7th of May. The first is through my throat to address some major issues at cervical levels C3/4 through C6/7, with a fusion at the 3/4 and 4/5 levels.
The next day they will flip me over and go in from the back side for the same levels and same fusions. Two discs are coming out and four disc levels will have osteophyte growths removed.

Once that is all healed up and PT completed, we'll be discussing lower back surgery for a re-ruptured L5/S1 and osteophyte growths in the L3/4 through the S1 level.

It's going to be a tough year I guess.

I've had surgeries on both back and neck previously in 1990 and 2002. No anxiety over the procedures. The alternative was to keep putting up with it and that has been wearing on me. I've found myself hoping to fall asleep and not wake up. Time for some medical intervention to say the least...

Thank you once again for the thoughts,
Jason

Yiddil posted 04-15-2008 10:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Jay, My BEst to you with hopes of full recovery and renewed whalering after this is all done:)Just keep driving that truck till th wheel fall off bud:)))

My BESt, Henry, aka The Yiddil

andygere posted 04-15-2008 11:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Jay,
I'm sorry to hear about your injuries; you will be in my thoughts and prayers on May 6-7. I wish you a speedy recovery, and hope that you will be able to get back on the water (or the beach) someday soon. In the meantime, the New England striped bass population gets a brief rest...
JayR posted 04-15-2008 03:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
Yiddil, that truck is partly to blame for my predicament. I wrecked it on February 25th. It's awaiting a tow to the junk yard as I write.

It made an existing injury worse and hastened a trip to the surgeon. Of course it couldn't happen late in the fall huh?

EIKNIB posted 04-15-2008 03:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for EIKNIB    
Sorry to hear of your accident and need for more surgery. You will be in my thoughts and prayers. Looks like you`ll be out for the season, but I know the team won`t cut you, they will be holding your position open for you next spring. Meanwhile I`m still keeping my eyes peeled for a Shamrock pilothouse.
rich
JayR posted 04-15-2008 05:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
Thanks Rich. That pilothouse would be perfect for the Guardian.

I'm hoping to go out once or twice over the next couple weeks. Perhaps catch a fish or two before the surgery.

I hope I feel well enough to go out by July ( as a passenger) and wet a line in the bay. I'll have to wait for a perfect day but it beats not going at all.

I healed pretty fast the last couple times but I am older now and in poor condition. This one won't be a cake walk but I'm holding up hope that I'll do well mending. Fingers are crossed anyway.

Thank you again everyone for the kind words and thoughts. It is appreciated.

elaelap posted 05-19-2008 08:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Even though your beautiful dumptruck isn't for sale anymore, I'm bumping this thread back up to the top 'cause a new member is interested in ribbed-hull Whalers and I'd like to show him one of the nicest I've ever seen.

Tony

Glad you made it through your surgery okay, Jason, and my best hopes for a speedy and complete recovery. Perhaps keeping your old beauty around for a while will hasten the day you'll be back aboard her. My very best regards.

JayR posted 05-19-2008 09:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
Thanks for the compliments and the well wishes Tony, It is greatly appreciated.

My doctor did tell me point blank "don't sell the boat". A better diagnosis could not have been given ;-)

I still suspect that my 20' Guardian would be a safer hull considering my spinal condition. In fact, I plan on making the switch when I feel better. Better safe than sorry huh?

Thanks again,
Jason


Here are the pics which show the boat from purchase to refurbisher and repowered:
http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/BigJayR/ 71%20Ribbed%20Side%20Whaler/

filthypit posted 05-19-2008 03:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for filthypit  Send Email to filthypit     
gee wiz, jason.
i'm very sorry to read about your ordeal. all the best on your recovery!
whalerjim2 posted 05-19-2008 07:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerjim2  Send Email to whalerjim2     
BEAUTIFUL!
And, best of luck on a speedy recovery.
irish posted 05-22-2008 09:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for irish  Send Email to irish     
Jayson, Sorry for your ordeal. Hope that you are having a speedy recovery.We communicated about my interest in an Outrage on Stripersonline. I enjoy your many posts. I have recently listed my house here in Putnam Valley,NY and plan to relocate to Mystic,CT. I saw where you mentioned Nova Scotia. We really should talk. I bought a great piece of waterfront property in 1990 and built my dream house. We are in Jordan Bay, near the great port town of Shelburne, about 1/2 way between Yarmouth and Lunenburg.Consider myself very fortunate. Never dreamed I would be able to afford anything like that. Of course the fishing is not what is is in NE and it is too far for a weekend, but we love it.
I am intrigued by the abilities of the original Outrages, such as their economy of fuel, shallow draft, stability, and offshore capability. I have never been in one,however. Had a 1967 Sakonnet and it did pound and was wet. Now I have a 17' Grady but haven't used it much. It is a deep hull.
Is the Outrage really a superior design? If so, why is that hull type no longer available?How safe is it to take off Montauk for tuna? Was the classic 18 Outrage a better hull?
Are ther other shallow draft boats out there thet will handle big water or handle it better? Are you located anywhere near Mystic? Would love to hear from you when you feel up to it.
JayR posted 05-23-2008 09:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
I'm a little over an hour from Mystic. Maybe an hour on the nose...

Feel free to contract me for a look see if you are interested. It's still sitting with its winter blanket covering it but I think I'll have it out and cleaned up for the summer soon.

The Original anchor locker cover, raised platform and cooler seat are still in storage in my garage. I didn't want to damage them while fishing so I made some cedar replacements for daily use. I have a leaning post in there now as I find it much better for my uses. I tried an RPS but did not like it and sold it.

Mully posted 05-23-2008 04:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mully  Send Email to Mully     
So is this rig back on the block?
I'm not really in the market right now but this might be too good to pass up.
Beautiful restoration my good man.
If this pristine 21 is available I will initiate negotiations with my accountant (read: wife) about adjusting fiscal priorities.
JayR posted 05-23-2008 05:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
I'm not openly putting her up for sale but I will entertain offers.

Everything is progressing so fast, I really don't know what I should do. Selling it is the safe thing to do but I know I will regret it in the future.

Mully posted 05-23-2008 11:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mully  Send Email to Mully     
I wouldn't feel right about it unless you were SURE you wanted to part with this great classic.
Take your time and decide what you want to do.
If you decide later you want to sell I will still be here (along with many others I'm sure).
Get well soon.
starlight marine posted 05-24-2008 07:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for starlight marine  Send Email to starlight marine     
Hey Jay, been a while since on here and noticed all this. Our prayers are going out for a full recovery. Hang tough, Capt.T in Fla.
pglein posted 05-30-2008 12:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
Ha ha, I was about to say that it appeared to be the best maintained Whaler I'd ever seen...and then I saw the pictures of how you launch it!

But in all seriousness, that is a BEAUTIFUL boat. It would be a shame if you have to sell her. Perhaps you can just keep it round for running around inside the harbor at low speed? Even if your condition gets worse, maybe it's time to consider a displacement hull boat... just so you can stay on the water.

JayR posted 05-30-2008 06:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
Hahahaha, this hull has only been launched once in that manner. Used to do the Madetauk like that hundreds of times.

Yes, a displacement hull would be the ticket.

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