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dflynn12 posted 04-03-2008 08:35 AM ET (US)
I have gone to look at a 1984 13 whaler with a modified center console. I really like the center console but there was a few flaws with the boat that made me think I should post pics here before I bought. The boat is a 1984 13 sport with custom center console and 1985 Evinrude 30hp on it. Seller is proving boat, trailer, motor, many accessories: trolling motor, hand-held gps, tools to work on boat with, two batteries, marine tex and other materials needed for repair work, Bimini top all safety equipment, life jackets, oar, flares, navigation lights for boat, spot lights, fire extinguisher and possible tackle and fishing rods/reels. He is also willing to deliver boat to my home so I do not pay until it is safe in my possession. I have gone to his home and looked at the boat and met him and he seems very nice and put a lot of time into the boat. I can see a lot of places that have been repaired but the boat seems solid we took it out for a spin and drove it around a lake for about a 1/2 hour and all was well with the motor and it seemed very quick even with two people. The boat handled very well and is just about everything I have been looking for. He is asking $3,600 for everything and this includes delivery. I may have taken him up on the offer but there was some damage that I wanted to let you guys look at first. links to Pics below:
https://server11.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/scovohpdjfzi/ s782q/p1/albums/ll159/dflynn12/
I mainly would like to know if the cracks around the edge are anything to worry about. They appear to be just spider cracks though some could be deeper than others. I am willing to spend some time repairing the boat but I do not want to speed $3600.00 and then spend a month or two making repairs to everything before I start using it to fish. I'm certain the damage on the bottom needs to be fixed asap as I can see the blue/green laminate in some spots but I'm not sure about the cracks. They are mostly along the edge where the floor curves up to the walls. Pretty much all around the boat. Is this just cosmetic or could it be the start of a big headache?
The boat seemed very light so I don't believe it has absorbed much if any water and it was very fast on the water even with about 400lbs of people and cargo.
I would like to know if the gashes on the bottom of the boat are easily patched. I do not care if it matches I just don't want water to get in. If the repair is easy and effective the is fine.
Would this be worth working on if I don't care how it looks as long as I can fish and not worry about water damaging the hull. If they need to be repaired is it even worth it for the asking price.

dflynn12 posted 04-03-2008 09:07 AM ET (US)
A second link for pics if first is not working right
http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll159/dflynn12/
Tohsgib posted 04-03-2008 12:08 PM ET (US)
All those spots are nothing to worry about and would take 10 minutes to fix. Whether or not $3600 is fair...that is up to you.
Mully posted 04-03-2008 12:13 PM ET (US)
Hard to say not having seen the boat in person, but none of that damage concerns me.
You have the right attitude - just make it seaworthy and use it, don't worry too much about how it looks.
The spider cracks are no problem.
The bottom repairs are the important thing.
In my opinion you should be fine just cleaning with acetone, sanding, cleaning with acetone again, then applying marine-tex (white, not gray) and letting it cure (a day or so).
Then go use it and enjoy it.
It's not a new boat, and the price you are paying is a pretty good deal especially considering all the throw-ins, which would cost you hundreds to buy new.
If something goes wrong you can always sell it.
A Whaler will always command a premium no matter what, even without power (unless it is a real mess) - so unless you have a real catastrophe the most likely thing is that you buy it, use it for several years, then sell it for close to what you paid and move on.
I say go for it.
DaveS posted 04-03-2008 01:33 PM ET (US)
Looks like a decent boat...one thing I did notice in the pictures was one of the thru hulls was missing, or at least it looked that way from the picture...I'd look a little closer just to be sure...
Good luck...
Dave
dflynn12 posted 04-03-2008 01:37 PM ET (US)
Please perdon my ignorance I am new to boating. What is a thru hull? Also this boat has a modified center console that is held in with 5200 and 3 screws. Would this present a problem at all? It appears sealed and extremely solid.
Tohsgib posted 04-03-2008 01:40 PM ET (US)
Thru-hulls are where the drain plugs go and they are both intact so no problem there.
Tohsgib posted 04-03-2008 01:41 PM ET (US)
The less screws the better and 5200 is some SERIOUS stuff. Main problem might be removing the console one day because that stuff is so strong.
dflynn12 posted 04-03-2008 01:48 PM ET (US)
Thanks that makes me feel better. I doubt I would want to remove the console as I beleive I like the center console more than I would the side console. I know a lot of people on here want to keep their Whalers original but I just want a functioning boat so I can fish without standing on the bank. I was looking at aluminium boats because I only have a car to pull the boat with but once I saw the 13 foot waheler and realized the weight was perfect for my car I am pretty set on one of these Whalers.
Tohsgib posted 04-03-2008 01:57 PM ET (US)
Side consoles suck unless you are into Yoga.
dflynn12 posted 04-03-2008 03:04 PM ET (US)
Thanks for all of the advice. I think I am going to call the guy today and tell him I want to purchase the boat, unless anyone here has any reasons why I shouldn't. Everyone that has looked at the pictures has told me to go for it in every forum I have posted on, including a friend of my wifes who works for Boston Whaler in Edgewater FL, so I think I will probably have this boat soon. I'm sure yall will see much more of me around here and I will deffinatley have plenty of questions regarding repairs and such as I have zero experience at all, but I am a handy guy and figure out most everything when I put the time into it. Hopefully my wife can deal with the new lady we will have soon.
Florida15 posted 04-04-2008 08:43 AM ET (US)
In that configuration, wouldn't that be an awful lot of weight in the stern ? It would take forever to plane.

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Author	Topic: Help me decide if it is worth it
dflynn12	posted 04-03-2008 08:35 AM ET (US) I have gone to look at a 1984 13 whaler with a modified center console. I really like the center console but there was a few flaws with the boat that made me think I should post pics here before I bought. The boat is a 1984 13 sport with custom center console and 1985 Evinrude 30hp on it. Seller is proving boat, trailer, motor, many accessories: trolling motor, hand-held gps, tools to work on boat with, two batteries, marine tex and other materials needed for repair work, Bimini top all safety equipment, life jackets, oar, flares, navigation lights for boat, spot lights, fire extinguisher and possible tackle and fishing rods/reels. He is also willing to deliver boat to my home so I do not pay until it is safe in my possession. I have gone to his home and looked at the boat and met him and he seems very nice and put a lot of time into the boat. I can see a lot of places that have been repaired but the boat seems solid we took it out for a spin and drove it around a lake for about a 1/2 hour and all was well with the motor and it seemed very quick even with two people. The boat handled very well and is just about everything I have been looking for. He is asking $3,600 for everything and this includes delivery. I may have taken him up on the offer but there was some damage that I wanted to let you guys look at first. links to Pics below: https://server11.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/scovohpdjfzi/ s782q/p1/albums/ll159/dflynn12/ I mainly would like to know if the cracks around the edge are anything to worry about. They appear to be just spider cracks though some could be deeper than others. I am willing to spend some time repairing the boat but I do not want to speed $3600.00 and then spend a month or two making repairs to everything before I start using it to fish. I'm certain the damage on the bottom needs to be fixed asap as I can see the blue/green laminate in some spots but I'm not sure about the cracks. They are mostly along the edge where the floor curves up to the walls. Pretty much all around the boat. Is this just cosmetic or could it be the start of a big headache? The boat seemed very light so I don't believe it has absorbed much if any water and it was very fast on the water even with about 400lbs of people and cargo. I would like to know if the gashes on the bottom of the boat are easily patched. I do not care if it matches I just don't want water to get in. If the repair is easy and effective the is fine. Would this be worth working on if I don't care how it looks as long as I can fish and not worry about water damaging the hull. If they need to be repaired is it even worth it for the asking price.
dflynn12	posted 04-03-2008 09:07 AM ET (US) A second link for pics if first is not working right http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll159/dflynn12/
Tohsgib	posted 04-03-2008 12:08 PM ET (US) All those spots are nothing to worry about and would take 10 minutes to fix. Whether or not $3600 is fair...that is up to you.
Mully	posted 04-03-2008 12:13 PM ET (US) Hard to say not having seen the boat in person, but none of that damage concerns me. You have the right attitude - just make it seaworthy and use it, don't worry too much about how it looks. The spider cracks are no problem. The bottom repairs are the important thing. In my opinion you should be fine just cleaning with acetone, sanding, cleaning with acetone again, then applying marine-tex (white, not gray) and letting it cure (a day or so). Then go use it and enjoy it. It's not a new boat, and the price you are paying is a pretty good deal especially considering all the throw-ins, which would cost you hundreds to buy new. If something goes wrong you can always sell it. A Whaler will always command a premium no matter what, even without power (unless it is a real mess) - so unless you have a real catastrophe the most likely thing is that you buy it, use it for several years, then sell it for close to what you paid and move on. I say go for it.
DaveS	posted 04-03-2008 01:33 PM ET (US) Looks like a decent boat...one thing I did notice in the pictures was one of the thru hulls was missing, or at least it looked that way from the picture...I'd look a little closer just to be sure... Good luck... Dave
dflynn12	posted 04-03-2008 01:37 PM ET (US) Please perdon my ignorance I am new to boating. What is a thru hull? Also this boat has a modified center console that is held in with 5200 and 3 screws. Would this present a problem at all? It appears sealed and extremely solid.
Tohsgib	posted 04-03-2008 01:40 PM ET (US) Thru-hulls are where the drain plugs go and they are both intact so no problem there.
Tohsgib	posted 04-03-2008 01:41 PM ET (US) The less screws the better and 5200 is some SERIOUS stuff. Main problem might be removing the console one day because that stuff is so strong.
dflynn12	posted 04-03-2008 01:48 PM ET (US) Thanks that makes me feel better. I doubt I would want to remove the console as I beleive I like the center console more than I would the side console. I know a lot of people on here want to keep their Whalers original but I just want a functioning boat so I can fish without standing on the bank. I was looking at aluminium boats because I only have a car to pull the boat with but once I saw the 13 foot waheler and realized the weight was perfect for my car I am pretty set on one of these Whalers.
Tohsgib	posted 04-03-2008 01:57 PM ET (US) Side consoles suck unless you are into Yoga.
dflynn12	posted 04-03-2008 03:04 PM ET (US) Thanks for all of the advice. I think I am going to call the guy today and tell him I want to purchase the boat, unless anyone here has any reasons why I shouldn't. Everyone that has looked at the pictures has told me to go for it in every forum I have posted on, including a friend of my wifes who works for Boston Whaler in Edgewater FL, so I think I will probably have this boat soon. I'm sure yall will see much more of me around here and I will deffinatley have plenty of questions regarding repairs and such as I have zero experience at all, but I am a handy guy and figure out most everything when I put the time into it. Hopefully my wife can deal with the new lady we will have soon.
Florida15	posted 04-04-2008 08:43 AM ET (US) In that configuration, wouldn't that be an awful lot of weight in the stern ? It would take forever to plane.