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Chuckles posted 04-16-2008 04:28 PM ET (US)   Profile for Chuckles   Send Email to Chuckles  
Hi all,

Need some of your collective insight on value of a 1988 17' Super Sport Limited with a 1988 88hp Johnson. Boat is on a trailer but hasn't been used for 11 years. Cosmetically, the hull is not great - been sitting under oak trees with a shreaded cover. But the hull appears good structurally, no stress cracks around motor mount, transom. Motor looks pretty tired - not much value there.

Seller is asking $6500. What's it really worth?

Thanks in advance.


jeffs22outrage posted 04-16-2008 05:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for jeffs22outrage  Send Email to jeffs22outrage     
From your description and without images I would say the price is about right if the motor is running (with good compression) looking tired or not.

If in overall good condition with a running motor and a good clean up the boat could bring that on ebay or else where on any given day. Of course it could bring less as well.

What condition is the interior in?

Bottom Paint?

Bottom line is what is it worth to you. That is where you will fine the answer to the boats real value.

Chuckles posted 04-16-2008 05:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuckles  Send Email to Chuckles     

The interior is OK, at least what I could see through the dirt and ice chunks. Vinyl seats were dried out. Overall, I'd give the interior a 5 out of 10.

The boat has bottom paint, which seems to be in good condition. Does bottom paint add or detract value?

How hard is it to bring a dirty, mouldy hull back to shine?



Tohsgib posted 04-17-2008 11:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
Not hard but ice can ruin a hull. W/o engine running GOOD, I would say maybe $3500 with a decent trailer. $6500 as-is I think is too high for a SS. Maybe $5k with engine running.
Bob of Glenburnie posted 04-17-2008 03:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bob of Glenburnie  Send Email to Bob of Glenburnie     
let's just think for a moment, hull, trailer and engine. now apply a value for each, mid-range. trailer would cost to replace $1000, engine $750. now that leaves anywhere between $ 2000 to 3,500 for the hull. assume you are looking for a restoration project, this model is rarer then most. all done w/o engine you'd get $ 7500-9000 on resale or the pleasure of owning a 17' SS Ltd. I've got one and love it, if I had the room and a wife who would not mind I would've 5 of them. take it @ $ 6000 and you'll never lose or be disappointed. my buddy just bought almost exact same package in CN for $ 6,800 on Craigslist.
Good Luck.
Tohsgib posted 04-17-2008 03:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
Yeah...if it runs good $6k is reasonable. Needing a new interior, etc, $5k seems more in line.
friend99 posted 04-17-2008 03:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for friend99    
The fair value of this package is closer to $5k than $6k. The truth of the matter is that the 17 SS is less desirable and less marketable than the center console Montauk.
Yiddil posted 04-17-2008 05:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
"Bottom line is what is it worth to you. That is where you will find the answer to the boats real value",You can take Jeff's statement to the bank! You dont have to go any further than that!
friend99 posted 04-17-2008 10:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for friend99    
If you pay what its worth to you, and you have to sell due to some unforseen circumstance, be ready to take a loss. Listen to Nick (Tohsgib) and me and you will always be able to get your money back. You dont have to go any further than that!
dscew posted 04-17-2008 11:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for dscew  Send Email to dscew     
Just listen to Nick. Friend99 just mimicks what Nick says so he can sound like an authority. He's not. Nick is. If friend99 owned the boat it would be $9k, and not a penny less. Since he doesn't, it's $5K. It's all about money with him.
friend99 posted 04-18-2008 03:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for friend99    
dscew....keep showing everyone what a jerk you are. I take comfort in knowing how jealous you and the other jerk are of me.
dscew posted 04-18-2008 04:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for dscew  Send Email to dscew     
Just calling a spade a spade, dude, you know what you are. I smell a cheap cigar again...I'm glad you're comfortable.
Buckda posted 04-18-2008 05:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
If the boat is used on and near an area with inland lakes, it is more valuable than an area where the primary boating is open ocean. In a small lake community, this model will be much more desireable. I'd say the price is fair in last year's market.

While the future is uncertain, it appears that there may be some very good buys with a lot more boat for the money moving forward as some folks divest themselves of toys in tightening economic conditions. If you have every intention to keep this boat and refurbish it, then it is a reasonable price.

Chuckles posted 04-18-2008 09:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuckles  Send Email to Chuckles     
Thanks for the good input, folks. I'm going to take another look at the boat. But I can't get the boat to a mechanic to look over the engine. Since it's been sitting for many years, lots of unknowns there.

Anybody have advice on inspecting the engine beyond the recommendations contained elsewhere on ContinuousWave? The model is a 1988 Johnson 88 HP, 2 cycle. I will try to test compression, but I also want to inspect the fuel lines & carb for deterioration from ethenol in the fuel. Any suggestions on how to do that?


deepwater posted 04-18-2008 09:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for deepwater  Send Email to deepwater     
I havent been in here for weeks why are you calling me a jerk
Chuckles posted 04-21-2008 03:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuckles  Send Email to Chuckles     
Thanks for the advice, folks. I picked the boat up for $5200.


Tohsgib posted 04-22-2008 10:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
How did the engine check out? Before you even THINK of running her, rebuild the crabs, check/replace fuel lines and filters. New waterpump and fluid, zincs, grease propshaft, zircs, etc and she should last a long time.
friend99 posted 04-24-2008 01:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for friend99    

Congratulations on your new to you boat!

I'm glad you took my advice on what is a fair price to pay and did not listen to the B.S. talkers who say "bottom line is what is the boat worth to you" and also glad you did not take certain peoples "statements to the bank" because you would have paid $1,000 or more for your boat.

Once again congratualtions and I hope the boat gives you many years of enjoyment!

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