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Martin Harayda posted 05-03-2008 02:52 PM ET (US)   Profile for Martin Harayda   Send Email to Martin Harayda  
Where can I buy a swim platform/ladder? Or does anybody have one? ,and does it mount above waterline thanks
martinmarine posted 05-05-2008 12:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for martinmarine  Send Email to martinmarine     
I manufacture a swim platform to fit your special transom. It mounts above the water and is very, very strong. No chance of pulling out! Check it out here:


Raymond Martin
Martin Marine Design

Martin Harayda posted 07-07-2008 09:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Martin Harayda  Send Email to Martin Harayda     
still need swim platform
Martin Harayda posted 07-10-2008 09:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Martin Harayda  Send Email to Martin Harayda     
Martin Harayda posted 07-13-2008 08:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Martin Harayda  Send Email to Martin Harayda     
still looking
Martin Harayda posted 07-20-2008 07:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Martin Harayda  Send Email to Martin Harayda     
still looking
Martin Harayda posted 08-28-2008 11:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Martin Harayda  Send Email to Martin Harayda     
Found one thanks guys!!!!!!!!!
dscew posted 08-29-2008 06:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for dscew  Send Email to dscew     
Did you find one used or new or aftermarket? I would like to mount one on my 74 Katama. I see an aftermarket one on eBay all the time, but the lower screws looked like they were blind lags into an area with no backing and below the waterline. I emailed the seller, but never got a response.
martinmarine posted 08-29-2008 08:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for martinmarine  Send Email to martinmarine     
Hi dscrew,
My company builds a swim platform specifically for your 1974 hull. It is the one listed on Ebay. We are very quick to answer any questions via email or phone and apologize if your email was missed. At times, emails get lost which is why we include our phone number on the listing. Give me a call at your convenience and I will be glad to address any concerns. 8437846110

Our platform is thru bolted on the top with machine screws and nylon inserted nuts. The bottom screws simply screw into the transom. The bottom screws do not need to be thru bolted because when you stand on the platform, all of the stress is on the top bolts. The force of your weight is actually driving the bottom pads into the transom. So, there is really no stress on the bottom screws.

This platform is 100% above the waterline.

We have sold many of these platforms with customers giving great reviews and praise. If you like, I can put you in touch with a couple of boat owners to discuss the platform.

This platform is rock solid and well built from 316 grade stainless steel and 1" King Starboard platform. It measures 15 inches deep and 19 inches wide. There is no flex or squeaks. There are no clearance issues with the motor. And, it carries a 100% money back guarantee.

Be sure to let me know if you have any concerns or questions.

Best regards,
Raymond Martin
Martin Marine Design

Newtauk1 posted 08-29-2008 10:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1  Send Email to Newtauk1     
Raymond Martin at Martin Marine Design made some side grab rails for me this spring. The quality and service were top notch. I believe all his products to be high quality as well.

Martin Marine Design& Fabrication
932 Old Charleston Hwy
Hardeeville, SC 29927


home Aside posted 08-29-2008 12:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
While I don't question the quality of Martin Marine products, the 1975 Montauk 17 does not have the reinforcement in the port & starboard sides of the transom to handle a swim platform.

It was some time in the mid 80's that they started putting reinforcement in that area of the transom that would accomodate a swim platform/boarding ladder.

I got this information directly from Boston Whaler when I was contemplating putting a swim platform on my 1982 Montauk 17

All this being said if you decide to try this, I would go with through hull bolts with large backing plates on the inside of the transom to spread out the stress on the transom


Tohsgib posted 08-29-2008 01:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
Although I agree with you that the stress is going downward when there is weight on it but...when you catch some air and that platform gets slapped from the bottom it can(and have seen many) get ripped out or at least loosened. I do not recommend swim platforms on small Whalers for this reason, not to mention that the force can also make for a really awkward landing or loss of control because one side of the boat does not sink in like the other side when landing which causes you to be thrusted sideways. We almost flipped a 17 because of the swim platform so never again in my book.
martinmarine posted 08-29-2008 04:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for martinmarine  Send Email to martinmarine     
home Aside,

We have had no issues mounting the platform on pre-1974 hulls. We designed this platform specifically for the 17 Whaler Hull. It wont fit another boat. Out of the eight screws, there are only two that dont bite into the transom wood. That leaves 6 screws that are very, very securely mounted. Four of those six screws are thru bolted with no chance of pulling out. Due to the way it is mounted, I seriously doubt there is any chance of it ripping out from water pressure from below.

As with most things, there are pros and cons to having a swim platform. If your thing is going out catching air, you may experience an uneven landing when having a platform installed.

However, if you have kids and enjoy skiing and tubing, if you like swimming from your boat, or if you accidentally get thrown out of the boat, you would do well to have a swim platform.


home Aside posted 08-29-2008 05:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
I'm just stating what I was told by Boston Whaler re: the model years that didn't have and did have proper reinforcement in the port and starboard areas of the transom on the 17' models to support a swim platform. The issue is there is no mounting wood in that area of the transom on a 1974 - Mid 80's 17' Boston whaler. There wasn't any until the mid 1980's. I don't own the 1982 Montauk any longer and wasn't the type boater where one would have affected the handling of the boat ( I think Toshgib mentioned that)

As I said, I don't question the quality of your products and I'm more than sure you've done your homework when designing the platform for the Montauk. As a matter of fact I'm considering some of your items you have on your website.

Again, all that being said, I'm not saying an individual can't do it if he wants, but I would not only through bolt the platform, as you say you do on some of the bolts on the platform, in addition I would use a substantial backing plate/or major league size washers on the inside of the transom of a 1974 Montauk as there is no substantial reinforcement in the interior of those areas.


martinmarine posted 08-29-2008 06:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for martinmarine  Send Email to martinmarine     
Hi Patrick,

Let me first say that I truly appreciate your comments and observations. I strive to build safe, functional products. The point I would like to make is that my platform does not mount in the same area on the transom as any other platform would mount. You and Boston Whaler are correct, there is no wood in the outer most areas of the transom. Most platforms today are mounted out to the edge of transom, as far away from the motor as possible. Mounted this way, your hull would not support a platform. My platform is mounted as close to the motor as possible, in the transom wood.


Ridge Runner posted 08-29-2008 09:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ridge Runner  Send Email to Ridge Runner     
I've been working with Raymond for a few months now, he is very knowledgable and a honorable person with excellent quality products. I know his platform is a little expensive compared to a Garlick but the quality is top notch, I bought the one that fits on afifteen, it is by far the highest quality platform I have ever installed. He is also building me a new center console door and some teak replacement parts from Starboard. I have spent many hours talking to him on the phone and he is never in a hurry. He is the kind of guy the this forum strides to attract. I'd say the same league as Tom Clark, a gentleman who you could business with on a hand shake. - Joe Pickel

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