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bob1008 posted 06-15-2008 10:17 PM ET (US)   Profile for bob1008   Send Email to bob1008  
I looked at an 88' Montauk today with a 90hp 2002 Honda 4-stroke, purchased in 07' and still under warranty. The motor has less than 10 hours on it. I have been looking for an older hull with a newer motor. The problem is the deck of this boat has thousands of spider cracks all over. I'm really not well versed in used boats so I'd appreciate any input that I can get. Most of the screws on the bowrails are either loose or missing. The appearance of the hull seems to me to be in fair condition at best.

The asking price for this is $11k. I took a lot of pictures today and they can be seen here:

http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/bob1008/montauk/

bob1008 posted 06-15-2008 10:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for bob1008  Send Email to bob1008     
I hope this works better.

http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/bob1008/montauk/

minitauk85 posted 06-16-2008 05:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for minitauk85  Send Email to minitauk85     
Bob- I'd be more concerned about the stress cracks on the transom, and elsewhere. Spider cracks are more or less a cosmetic problem. The other stress cracks you showed would have me more concerned than the transom, but it's hard to tell where they are. Need to see some pics of the location of these to put them in context! -k
bob1008 posted 06-16-2008 07:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for bob1008  Send Email to bob1008     
I went to photobucket and labeled the pics. The cracks on the transom concerned me a lot too. Also the long cracks on the deck on both sides of the bow were unusual to me. I know that stress cracks are normal, but I've just never seen a BW with the entire deck covered with thousands of them.
Dan posted 06-16-2008 07:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dan  Send Email to Dan     
I'd keep looking for a motor with a better hull.
themclos posted 06-16-2008 08:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for themclos  Send Email to themclos     
Bob,

I would say keep looking. For $11k, I would expect a boat in excellent condition. This hull has not been maintained.

There are better deals out there.

Dan

home Aside posted 06-16-2008 08:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Actually I think what you describe as a multitude of small stress cracks are actually "CRAZING" (Sp?) probably caused by neglect in cleaning and storing the boat uncovered.

They are superficial and not as serious as the real stress cracks at the transom. I don't believe they allow water to seep into the interior/foam of the hull, but they could get worse. Jeffs22outrage wrote an article some where about repairing CRAZING but his example was of fewer larger crazing blemishes (if you will). Basically, he cleaned the crazing cracks out with a dremel tool, filled in the cracks(don't rmember with what), sanded, and then regelcoated over. The repair he reported about did not involve crazing on non-skid areas. I would think the fix to the example seen in this boat would be to re-gelcoat the entire interior, too many of them to deal with individually.

In my opinion with everything seen in the photo's, this is not a good example of an $11,000 Montauk even with the relatively new Honda 90 on the back, it does appear the seller took the time to Oil the teak.

I sold a freshwater 1982 Montauk with a 1982 Evinrude 90 (rebuilt in 2003) that was in my opinion a 9 out of 10, for $10,000 in Aug 2006, I sold the Mills Canvas seperately. This Montauk isn't even close, I make him a offer of quite a bit less if it was my deal, use the money saved to make the necessary repairs.

Just my opinion....

Pat

Tohsgib posted 06-16-2008 10:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
Run away!
ratherwhalering posted 06-16-2008 11:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for ratherwhalering  Send Email to ratherwhalering     
Brave, brave, brave Sir Robbin...
bob1008 posted 06-16-2008 11:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for bob1008  Send Email to bob1008     
I appreciate your comments. I needed to hear them to keep me from doing something foolish. I was thinking about making a low offer for the value of the motor.. say about $7k or so, and living with the cracks. But not being very handy, and not having a lot of time, I think I should forget it and look elsewhere. This forum is awesome !
friend99 posted 06-16-2008 12:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for friend99    
I would pass on this boat. I think you will find much better deals in the MA and surrounding areas.

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