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WaterWorldBoating posted 07-27-2008 06:04 PM ET (US)
Not mine. No affiliation. Just appears to be a good deal. There are pictures at the craigslist link blow:
http://longisland.craigslist.org/boa/772153492.html
Boston Whaler - $6000 (Westhampton Beach Marina)
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Reply to: sale-772153492@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-07-27, 4:33PM EDT
1987 Boston Whaler- 18' Outrage. 120 hp Johnson outboard. Trailer included. Bimini top.
All original. Well maintained. Extras include: Coolers, covers, lines, rod holders, depth guage,
bumpers, anchor. Great boat, great price !!
Greg_B posted 07-27-2008 06:30 PM ET (US)
Thanks, wish me luck
Greg
WaterWorldBoating posted 07-27-2008 07:35 PM ET (US)
I have some doubts on this one. Perhaps it is under powered. I believe there were some 18 Outrages that experienced a problem wavy hull sides. Perhaps someone else can shed some light if this model, and year was potentially affected. Good luck. Let me know how you make out.
Casco Bay Outrage posted 07-27-2008 07:40 PM ET (US)
FYI
A Outrage 18 with a 120 hp motor is not underpowered. The max hp rating is 150 hp.
Wasatch Whaler posted 07-27-2008 07:48 PM ET (US)
Good Luck Greg!!!
I think the wavy hull issues were cosmetic and not structural. Also, if my memory is correct, that problem was solved by Boston Whaler, and the issue is confined to hulls produced in the earlier years. I don't think a 1987 hull will have the problem.

Rick Dewees posted 07-27-2008 09:16 PM ET (US)
A little bit of wavy sides give my '77 Montauk character. Otherwise she would be TOO pretty.
Tom W Clark posted 07-27-2008 09:25 PM ET (US)
The 1987 Outrage 18 was notorious for having a terrible puckered worthless hull.
That motor is WAY too small and a lousy Johnson at that.
The boat is sitting in the water and probably waterlogged, uncovered no less. Probably full of gull guano too.
Who wants a stinky ol' Whaler anyway? Greg -- stay away!
[ I already called my BIL and told him to get his arse down to Long Island, stat! ]
Greg_B posted 07-27-2008 09:26 PM ET (US)
That an original console?
Dan posted 07-28-2008 04:11 PM ET (US)
I've been looking for an 18 Outrage for a long time. I thought this might be the one. I was one of the first to call and saw the boat this morning. If I didn't already have a Montauk in perfect condition I would have bought this boat in a heartbeat.
Trailer: Looks good to me, better quality rollers, tires look good and it has an electric winch. I think it's a 1991 EZloader -- galvanized with not that much rust -- keel rollers and bunks.
Wood: The wood on the console is especially nice. The gunnel caps are good too. A light sanding and oiling of all wood is all it needs. Front cooler chocks could use a refinish or spot touch up for varnish.
Canvas: Mills bimini -- owner had the fabric restiched and it looks fine -- Pacific Blue.
Console cover: looks fine, but I don't think it's Mills.
2 swivel seat covers -- passenger is a little nicer than driver side (a little staining), but both are fine.
Cushions -- the cushions for seats are brown and faded, but not ripped. Front cooler cushion is nicer.
Coolers -- I think the front cooler has a crack in it. Need to replace bungee cords connected to wood chocks.
Battery -- owner says it's newish
Electronics -- owner says vhf radio is newish -- black Westmarine with whip antennae. Old Scitex depth finder.
Console -- very clean -- really nice, nice windshield. Black material above steering wheel is bubbly -- pretty common.
Guages -- oil, trim, temp, volt, tach, speedo -- all seem to work.
Bilge -- works
Nav lights -- I don't know if they work.
Hull -- boat's in water -- rub rail excellent, didn't feel any soft spots or see waviness. Spider cracks -- there are a lot of small spider cracks -- most noticeable on deck and where vertical meets horizontal.
Rails -- all metal is in very good condition and rails are nice and tight.
Motor -- owner told me he never changed waterpump because if it's not broke... Water stream was pretty constant but not that smooth. Under cowling was very very clean. Skeq looks very slightly bent to port side -- I could be wrong on this.
What I didn't like about motor was that when owner start it and lets it warm up, he over-revs it as high as 3K. I think I read where this shouldn't be done. The owner didn't want to leave throttle at low position so motor would rev around 1K. On my Johnson I can let motor rev at .75K with no problem. Therefore, I had some misgivings on engine -- but we ran it at 3K to 5K and it moved the boat nicely.
Fuel lines -- owner told me he never changed them -- what I could see looked okay, but I'm pretty sure 1987 lines are not good with Ethanol.
Gas tank -- fuel gauge seemed to work and looked clean. Top of tank under inspection cover wasn't that bad.
The owner cleaned the deck and bilge areas with Comet soft scrub. He is the second owner of the boat.
I think the boat is definitely worth the money. I could have bought it and flipped it -- but not interested in that.
I took a bunch of photos.
Oh, the brass drain tubes in motor well looked good.
If there were less spider cracks and if the motor idled better I would have bought the boat. In my head I figured I'd drop another grand on water pump, fuel lines, ethanol resistant fuel/oil pump. I wasn't able to compression test.
The owner had a local buyer coming at 4:30 pm who most likely wants the boat -- they were there yesterday night with flashlights -- lol!
I would have liked to inspect the hull while it was on the trailer. The deck caulk looks to have been redone at some point -- not as neat as I might have liked.
Of course I'm not a pro surveyor, and some of my assumptions regarding motor and stuff may be wrong. I do own a 1990 90hp Johnson, and this 120 didn't sound smooth -- something seemed off -- I could be wrong.
Sorry for the long ramble. I hope someone from this site gets the boat. Greg -- I e-mailed you from the local library in Westhampton so I could give you this info.
Anyway, owner's a nice guy, former Marine, and he's selling for health reasons. I felt bad for using up some of his time, but he needed to be there to get ready for potential buyer at 4:30.
JayR posted 07-29-2008 09:57 AM ET (US)
Must have sold. Link is no longer valid.
Blackduck posted 07-29-2008 12:33 PM ET (US)
This could have been a great buy. I say could have been, because the boat is in the water, with no way of inspecting the bottom for damage, bad repairs and blisters. If the boat has blisters, stripping the bottom, repairing the blisters, epoxy barrier coating, new bottom paint, could run a couple of thousand, easy. A 22 year old motor, that may have problems, could eat up the rest of this good deal, quickly.
Maybe I am having a bit of buyer's remorse right now. I just paid $10,000 for an 87, but it has a virgin bottom that is just about as good as the day it left the Norwell. Ma factory, and a 1997, low hour, good compression, sweet sounding, Yamaha Saltwater II 150. I use to feel that I paid a fair price for the boat, probably still do. I really liked the young couple I bought it from, probably kept me from trying to pay even less, but , well the prices seem to be dropping even more. Oh well, reminds me of my luck with that darn stock market, got to move on, though, and enjoy this great boat.
gvisko posted 07-29-2008 08:20 PM ET (US)
Dan Were is the boat located in WESTHAMPTON
I live in WESTHAMPTON DUNES and would be happt to check it out and find out the status for any one that is interested.
GEORGE V
Dan posted 07-30-2008 08:53 AM ET (US)
The boat is/was at the Westhampton Beach Public Marina at the end of Library Road off Montauk Highway. I'm pretty sure there is also a classic 22 for sale with a Merc for sale there too and I think the owner is advertising the boat on whalercentral.com.
I think the 18 sold because it's not on craigslist anymore.
Blackduck, I think you bought wisely.
gvisko posted 07-30-2008 08:51 PM ET (US)
Thanks Dan
I will check it out in the morning and get back to you all.
GEORGE V
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Author	Topic: 1987 Boston Whaler- 18' Outrage $6000
WaterWorldBoating	posted 07-27-2008 06:04 PM ET (US) Not mine. No affiliation. Just appears to be a good deal. There are pictures at the craigslist link blow: http://longisland.craigslist.org/boa/772153492.html Boston Whaler - $6000 (Westhampton Beach Marina) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to: sale-772153492@craigslist.org Date: 2008-07-27, 4:33PM EDT 1987 Boston Whaler- 18' Outrage. 120 hp Johnson outboard. Trailer included. Bimini top. All original. Well maintained. Extras include: Coolers, covers, lines, rod holders, depth guage, bumpers, anchor. Great boat, great price !!
Greg_B	posted 07-27-2008 06:30 PM ET (US) Thanks, wish me luck Greg
WaterWorldBoating	posted 07-27-2008 07:35 PM ET (US) I have some doubts on this one. Perhaps it is under powered. I believe there were some 18 Outrages that experienced a problem wavy hull sides. Perhaps someone else can shed some light if this model, and year was potentially affected. Good luck. Let me know how you make out.
Casco Bay Outrage	posted 07-27-2008 07:40 PM ET (US) FYI A Outrage 18 with a 120 hp motor is not underpowered. The max hp rating is 150 hp.
Wasatch Whaler	posted 07-27-2008 07:48 PM ET (US) Good Luck Greg!!! I think the wavy hull issues were cosmetic and not structural. Also, if my memory is correct, that problem was solved by Boston Whaler, and the issue is confined to hulls produced in the earlier years. I don't think a 1987 hull will have the problem.
Rick Dewees	posted 07-27-2008 09:16 PM ET (US) A little bit of wavy sides give my '77 Montauk character. Otherwise she would be TOO pretty.
Tom W Clark	posted 07-27-2008 09:25 PM ET (US) The 1987 Outrage 18 was notorious for having a terrible puckered worthless hull. That motor is WAY too small and a lousy Johnson at that. The boat is sitting in the water and probably waterlogged, uncovered no less. Probably full of gull guano too. Who wants a stinky ol' Whaler anyway? Greg -- stay away! [ I already called my BIL and told him to get his arse down to Long Island, stat! ]
Greg_B	posted 07-27-2008 09:26 PM ET (US) That an original console?
Dan	posted 07-28-2008 04:11 PM ET (US) I've been looking for an 18 Outrage for a long time. I thought this might be the one. I was one of the first to call and saw the boat this morning. If I didn't already have a Montauk in perfect condition I would have bought this boat in a heartbeat. Trailer: Looks good to me, better quality rollers, tires look good and it has an electric winch. I think it's a 1991 EZloader -- galvanized with not that much rust -- keel rollers and bunks. Wood: The wood on the console is especially nice. The gunnel caps are good too. A light sanding and oiling of all wood is all it needs. Front cooler chocks could use a refinish or spot touch up for varnish. Canvas: Mills bimini -- owner had the fabric restiched and it looks fine -- Pacific Blue. Console cover: looks fine, but I don't think it's Mills. 2 swivel seat covers -- passenger is a little nicer than driver side (a little staining), but both are fine. Cushions -- the cushions for seats are brown and faded, but not ripped. Front cooler cushion is nicer. Coolers -- I think the front cooler has a crack in it. Need to replace bungee cords connected to wood chocks. Battery -- owner says it's newish Electronics -- owner says vhf radio is newish -- black Westmarine with whip antennae. Old Scitex depth finder. Console -- very clean -- really nice, nice windshield. Black material above steering wheel is bubbly -- pretty common. Guages -- oil, trim, temp, volt, tach, speedo -- all seem to work. Bilge -- works Nav lights -- I don't know if they work. Hull -- boat's in water -- rub rail excellent, didn't feel any soft spots or see waviness. Spider cracks -- there are a lot of small spider cracks -- most noticeable on deck and where vertical meets horizontal. Rails -- all metal is in very good condition and rails are nice and tight. Motor -- owner told me he never changed waterpump because if it's not broke... Water stream was pretty constant but not that smooth. Under cowling was very very clean. Skeq looks very slightly bent to port side -- I could be wrong on this. What I didn't like about motor was that when owner start it and lets it warm up, he over-revs it as high as 3K. I think I read where this shouldn't be done. The owner didn't want to leave throttle at low position so motor would rev around 1K. On my Johnson I can let motor rev at .75K with no problem. Therefore, I had some misgivings on engine -- but we ran it at 3K to 5K and it moved the boat nicely. Fuel lines -- owner told me he never changed them -- what I could see looked okay, but I'm pretty sure 1987 lines are not good with Ethanol. Gas tank -- fuel gauge seemed to work and looked clean. Top of tank under inspection cover wasn't that bad. The owner cleaned the deck and bilge areas with Comet soft scrub. He is the second owner of the boat. I think the boat is definitely worth the money. I could have bought it and flipped it -- but not interested in that. I took a bunch of photos. Oh, the brass drain tubes in motor well looked good. If there were less spider cracks and if the motor idled better I would have bought the boat. In my head I figured I'd drop another grand on water pump, fuel lines, ethanol resistant fuel/oil pump. I wasn't able to compression test. The owner had a local buyer coming at 4:30 pm who most likely wants the boat -- they were there yesterday night with flashlights -- lol! I would have liked to inspect the hull while it was on the trailer. The deck caulk looks to have been redone at some point -- not as neat as I might have liked. Of course I'm not a pro surveyor, and some of my assumptions regarding motor and stuff may be wrong. I do own a 1990 90hp Johnson, and this 120 didn't sound smooth -- something seemed off -- I could be wrong. Sorry for the long ramble. I hope someone from this site gets the boat. Greg -- I e-mailed you from the local library in Westhampton so I could give you this info. Anyway, owner's a nice guy, former Marine, and he's selling for health reasons. I felt bad for using up some of his time, but he needed to be there to get ready for potential buyer at 4:30.
JayR	posted 07-29-2008 09:57 AM ET (US) Must have sold. Link is no longer valid.
Blackduck	posted 07-29-2008 12:33 PM ET (US) This could have been a great buy. I say could have been, because the boat is in the water, with no way of inspecting the bottom for damage, bad repairs and blisters. If the boat has blisters, stripping the bottom, repairing the blisters, epoxy barrier coating, new bottom paint, could run a couple of thousand, easy. A 22 year old motor, that may have problems, could eat up the rest of this good deal, quickly. Maybe I am having a bit of buyer's remorse right now. I just paid $10,000 for an 87, but it has a virgin bottom that is just about as good as the day it left the Norwell. Ma factory, and a 1997, low hour, good compression, sweet sounding, Yamaha Saltwater II 150. I use to feel that I paid a fair price for the boat, probably still do. I really liked the young couple I bought it from, probably kept me from trying to pay even less, but , well the prices seem to be dropping even more. Oh well, reminds me of my luck with that darn stock market, got to move on, though, and enjoy this great boat.
gvisko	posted 07-29-2008 08:20 PM ET (US) Dan Were is the boat located in WESTHAMPTON I live in WESTHAMPTON DUNES and would be happt to check it out and find out the status for any one that is interested. GEORGE V
Dan	posted 07-30-2008 08:53 AM ET (US) The boat is/was at the Westhampton Beach Public Marina at the end of Library Road off Montauk Highway. I'm pretty sure there is also a classic 22 for sale with a Merc for sale there too and I think the owner is advertising the boat on whalercentral.com. I think the 18 sold because it's not on craigslist anymore. Blackduck, I think you bought wisely.
gvisko	posted 07-30-2008 08:51 PM ET (US) Thanks Dan I will check it out in the morning and get back to you all. GEORGE V TOMAHAWK SPORTFISHING