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koaman posted 01-21-2009 11:59 AM ET (US)
Found this one on Craigslist. Seems to be priced right. I'm still looking. Any thoughts? Thanks
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1989-BOSTON-WHALER-Outrage-%2720-94405093
koaman posted 01-21-2009 12:00 PM ET (US)
I meant to say Boat Trader
koaman posted 01-21-2009 12:03 PM ET (US)
Here's a 21 for $5900. seems cheap.
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/boa/997620477.html
themclos posted 01-21-2009 01:30 PM ET (US)
Koaman,
They are 2 very different boats.
The first link, to the boat on boattrader.com, is for an Outrage 20. The price is not unreasonable.
The second link looks to be to an older generation Outrage 21, which is a very different hull. With little else to go on, the price looks reasonable.
These are 2 very different hulls and so a direct pricing comparison is difficult.
Good luck with your search.
Dan
koaman posted 01-21-2009 02:19 PM ET (US)
Thanks Dan, This Montauk looks like a good buy also although probibly underpowered. It would most likely be sold if it was on the coast.
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/boa/1000634347.html
koaman posted 01-21-2009 02:41 PM ET (US)
Don't know why these links are not coming up where you can just click on them.
andygere posted 01-21-2009 03:32 PM ET (US)
Check the shift shaft on that Yamaha. Early models had mild steel shift shafts prone to rust, later ones had stainless. Big cost if yours is the former. '89 should have full width splashwell, a desireable feature. The trailer sounds beat, figure on $1000+ to rehab if you do the work yourself. Overall price seems OK, but in this economy you may be able to do better. Make an offer based on hull condition and a motor value of about $1500. A new 200 will run $12k+.
Perry posted 01-21-2009 05:07 PM ET (US)
The Outrage 20 looks nice at a good price but you might want to get someone to look at it before buying. The Outrage 21 is cheap but you can't get a good look with the picture provided.
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/ 1989-BOSTON-WHALER-Outrage-%2720-94405093
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/boa/997620477.html

lizard posted 01-22-2009 12:22 AM ET (US)
I viewed both of these boats on our most recent trip to San Diego. The 20 needs a LOT more than a trailer tune up. The center console has been bastardized, the holds are a mess, this is a project boat with a functional motor that appears to have had minimal maintenance. The seller says he lives in Costa Rica and needs to unload the boat, but he has been saying that for several months now, per our in-laws, who viewed the boat before us.
The older 21 stopped posting photos with his add because he advertised it as "super super clean", which was a L-O-N-G stretch. His price has dropped from $9500 to $5900 quickly. Email correspondence from the seller (bajajesse) ranged from "rude to tweeker illiterate". Sorry to be so blunt.
There is also an 80's 22 for sale that we saw. It flipped in the surf, took on massive water and the motor and all electronics were done. He hung an ebay motor on it. It is a salvage title but he does not advertise it as such. We had mutual friends with the seller, who knew him well, and steered us away.
We are trying to position ourselves with the right Whalers on both coasts, as that is our semi-retirement plan.
Koaman, have you considered the cost of shipping a boat from SD? Are there not other options in HI?
koaman posted 01-22-2009 02:51 AM ET (US)
Thanks for all the great info lizard. The cost to ship a Montauk here is $3500. and $4500 for the 22'. I keep looking here in the islands for one but have not come up with anything yet. Most of the boats here have been well used and it is hard to find something clean and original. I don't mind paying more for a nice original boat. I'm leaning towards a Montauk ( or Newtauk). Only looking at Whalers right now. I'm not in a big hurry and have a trip planned to CA in April. I have some other captain friends in CA who can survey for me if something comes up before. Aloha
Perry posted 01-28-2009 02:25 PM ET (US)
Koaman, did you see the Outrage 22 for $14,000 OBO on craigslist Oahu?
http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/boa/1009138515.html
djd35de posted 02-01-2009 12:01 PM ET (US)
Was wondering,
If that boat was flipped in the surf.
Whats the main concern?
I would guess the fuel tank right?
All the electronics, wiring and engine have been replaced.
What other concerns would you guys have?
Thanks David
lizard posted 02-01-2009 11:50 PM ET (US)
David- I am not a marine expert, but I would worry about water intrusion into the hull from the deck, at a minimum.
Like I said, we knew locals who knew/saw the boat and steered us away.
I understood that this happened at a surf break and that the boat was turtled for a while. Also, the seller does not advertise that this is a SALVAGE title, which can impact your ability to insure the boat.
djd35de posted 02-02-2009 10:11 AM ET (US)
Oh, I did'nt even think about the insurance part of it.
What attracted me to this boat was the fact that it already has a Honda and it would be a move up.
What i really want is a 22ft Guardian with Honda 225hp.
David
lizard posted 02-02-2009 10:14 AM ET (US)
David- Don't you have an 18 Outrage that you repowered recently?
djd35de posted 02-06-2009 01:11 AM ET (US)
Yes i do but always looking to move up if possible. I just can't afford another repower anytime soon.
David
lizard posted 02-07-2009 11:27 AM ET (US)
OK David- here's your rig-
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/1024251005.html


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Author	Topic: 1989 Outrage in San Diego
koaman	posted 01-21-2009 11:59 AM ET (US) Found this one on Craigslist. Seems to be priced right. I'm still looking. Any thoughts? Thanks http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1989-BOSTON-WHALER-Outrage-%2720-94405093
koaman	posted 01-21-2009 12:00 PM ET (US) I meant to say Boat Trader
koaman	posted 01-21-2009 12:03 PM ET (US) Here's a 21 for $5900. seems cheap. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/boa/997620477.html
themclos	posted 01-21-2009 01:30 PM ET (US) Koaman, They are 2 very different boats. The first link, to the boat on boattrader.com, is for an Outrage 20. The price is not unreasonable. The second link looks to be to an older generation Outrage 21, which is a very different hull. With little else to go on, the price looks reasonable. These are 2 very different hulls and so a direct pricing comparison is difficult. Good luck with your search. Dan
koaman	posted 01-21-2009 02:19 PM ET (US) Thanks Dan, This Montauk looks like a good buy also although probibly underpowered. It would most likely be sold if it was on the coast. http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/boa/1000634347.html
koaman	posted 01-21-2009 02:41 PM ET (US) Don't know why these links are not coming up where you can just click on them.
andygere	posted 01-21-2009 03:32 PM ET (US) Check the shift shaft on that Yamaha. Early models had mild steel shift shafts prone to rust, later ones had stainless. Big cost if yours is the former. '89 should have full width splashwell, a desireable feature. The trailer sounds beat, figure on $1000+ to rehab if you do the work yourself. Overall price seems OK, but in this economy you may be able to do better. Make an offer based on hull condition and a motor value of about $1500. A new 200 will run $12k+.
Perry	posted 01-21-2009 05:07 PM ET (US) The Outrage 20 looks nice at a good price but you might want to get someone to look at it before buying. The Outrage 21 is cheap but you can't get a good look with the picture provided. http://www.boattrader.com/listing/ 1989-BOSTON-WHALER-Outrage-%2720-94405093 http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/boa/997620477.html
lizard	posted 01-22-2009 12:22 AM ET (US) I viewed both of these boats on our most recent trip to San Diego. The 20 needs a LOT more than a trailer tune up. The center console has been bastardized, the holds are a mess, this is a project boat with a functional motor that appears to have had minimal maintenance. The seller says he lives in Costa Rica and needs to unload the boat, but he has been saying that for several months now, per our in-laws, who viewed the boat before us. The older 21 stopped posting photos with his add because he advertised it as "super super clean", which was a L-O-N-G stretch. His price has dropped from $9500 to $5900 quickly. Email correspondence from the seller (bajajesse) ranged from "rude to tweeker illiterate". Sorry to be so blunt. There is also an 80's 22 for sale that we saw. It flipped in the surf, took on massive water and the motor and all electronics were done. He hung an ebay motor on it. It is a salvage title but he does not advertise it as such. We had mutual friends with the seller, who knew him well, and steered us away. We are trying to position ourselves with the right Whalers on both coasts, as that is our semi-retirement plan. Koaman, have you considered the cost of shipping a boat from SD? Are there not other options in HI?
koaman	posted 01-22-2009 02:51 AM ET (US) Thanks for all the great info lizard. The cost to ship a Montauk here is $3500. and $4500 for the 22'. I keep looking here in the islands for one but have not come up with anything yet. Most of the boats here have been well used and it is hard to find something clean and original. I don't mind paying more for a nice original boat. I'm leaning towards a Montauk ( or Newtauk). Only looking at Whalers right now. I'm not in a big hurry and have a trip planned to CA in April. I have some other captain friends in CA who can survey for me if something comes up before. Aloha
Perry	posted 01-28-2009 02:25 PM ET (US) Koaman, did you see the Outrage 22 for $14,000 OBO on craigslist Oahu? http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/boa/1009138515.html
djd35de	posted 02-01-2009 12:01 PM ET (US) Was wondering, If that boat was flipped in the surf. Whats the main concern? I would guess the fuel tank right? All the electronics, wiring and engine have been replaced. What other concerns would you guys have? Thanks David
lizard	posted 02-01-2009 11:50 PM ET (US) David- I am not a marine expert, but I would worry about water intrusion into the hull from the deck, at a minimum. Like I said, we knew locals who knew/saw the boat and steered us away. I understood that this happened at a surf break and that the boat was turtled for a while. Also, the seller does not advertise that this is a SALVAGE title, which can impact your ability to insure the boat.
djd35de	posted 02-02-2009 10:11 AM ET (US) Oh, I did'nt even think about the insurance part of it. What attracted me to this boat was the fact that it already has a Honda and it would be a move up. What i really want is a 22ft Guardian with Honda 225hp. David
lizard	posted 02-02-2009 10:14 AM ET (US) David- Don't you have an 18 Outrage that you repowered recently?
djd35de	posted 02-06-2009 01:11 AM ET (US) Yes i do but always looking to move up if possible. I just can't afford another repower anytime soon. David
lizard	posted 02-07-2009 11:27 AM ET (US) OK David- here's your rig- http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/1024251005.html