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Tdog posted 02-03-2009 06:10 AM ET (US)   Profile for Tdog   Send Email to Tdog  
I am considering purchasing a 1995 21ft Outrage with a 95 Johnson OceanPro. Boat is in excellent condition and motor has prox 225 hours. Compression is 110 +- 5 on all cylinders. Any ideas on prox fuel consumption at medium cruise speed? Any intrinsic/common problems with this motor? Are there things/issues I should look for related to hull? Boat has center console w/bimini and 2 chairs. If in almost new condition what would fair price be for this boat? Thanks for all replies.
Tohsgib posted 02-03-2009 10:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
If a 200/225 they are pretty thirsty engines. 12gphish at cruise and 23+WOT. They have 6 individual carbs, make sure you have them cleaned and adjusted and keep them that way. First sign of really hard starting or?? and get them checked again. I blew up my 225 twice due to a clogged carb.
Whaler19 posted 02-03-2009 11:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler19  Send Email to Whaler19     
The 95 Johnson OceanPro is a great engine. As mentioned above, it is a thirsty engine...luckily the fuel gauge isn't located on my console - seems like the needle moves just firing up the engine.

I currently own a 1996 Evinrude Ocean Runner 225 which has the System Check Tachometer. I believe this started in 1996, and signals issues with low oil pressure, temp, etc. so you can pinpoint an issue. I believe yours is just a regular tach without the warning lights (95).

I've owned two other 225's on classic Outrages. Totally bullet-proof. Always start, a bit smoky, but reliable. I would recommend spending the $, finding a good OMC tech that knows these engines and having the carbs cleaned. You might replace the thermostats as well.

Our harbor master said he put 4,000 hours on his 225 Ocean Pro. Good luck.

dnh posted 02-03-2009 08:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for dnh  Send Email to dnh     
I own a 1995 21 Outrage.

My friend just bought a 1996 21 Outrage.

See this thread:

or this one...

My friend just bought a 1996 21 Outrage with a Yamaha 225 2 stroke, fuel injected, 2002 engine, 130 hours, dual axle trailer, bimini, GPS, depthfinder, VHF, anchor, lines, all that stuff for $11,500.00.

Keep in mind that I thought I got a good deal buying a 1995 with a blown engine in 2007 for $15,000.00.

Since Whalers arent like cars and the hulls last forever, the fact that they made such a good product in the past, when combined with the economic downturn and flooded used boat market, would just seem to me to make new ones not move too fast.

$30,000.00 into it, bought 9/07

$11,500.00 into it, bought 1/09

Its a great boat. Buy it. Use the two stroke until you can afford a 4 stroke. The boat holds an F250 great. It could also handle a Verado 300 weight wise or HP wise.

Mine runs 54mph with the F250 and a Merc Enertia prop.

Tdog posted 02-03-2009 09:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tdog  Send Email to Tdog     
Thanks for replies. The motor on this boat is a 200 Ocean Pro. Not sure how that would impact fuel consumption? Maybe a little better than 225? With the price of fuel I go pretty easy on the throttle. Any thoughts as to difference in fuel use between this motor and 200 Yamaha 4 stroke or E-Tec 200?

I also have a 1984 15ft Supersport in almost new condition. She's my baby :) Need to repower at some point as original Johnson 70 is giving problems.

dnh posted 02-04-2009 01:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for dnh  Send Email to dnh     
Not to keep saying I have the boat, but I also have a 15 Sport with a Yamaha F60 on it. It uses essentialyl NO gas.

You would not get a Yamaha F200. Yhat would not make sense. The F250 is the same block, and it only costs $1500 more. Weight difference is something like 17lbs. Highly recommend the F250 instead.

Put it this way, my 21 with an F250 uses less gas than my Dad's 18 Dauntless with a 2 stroke Yamaha 130.

Tohsgib posted 02-04-2009 02:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
A F200 or Equiv would burn about 3-4 gph less at cruise. Not worth the price of admission if package is cheap enough. If you want to repower, look for one that somebody just did and needs to unload. Runpastthefence has a nice classic with new Suzuki 175 for about $15k I believe.
Tdog posted 02-04-2009 10:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tdog  Send Email to Tdog     
dnh, in the pics of the 21 you posted, when you look to the right of the throttle/shifter is the light colored area a cover for a dry box? Not sure what this is?? Thanks
phatwhaler posted 02-04-2009 11:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for phatwhaler  Send Email to phatwhaler     
The colored area is a smoked plastic cover for an area you can stow some charts or flush mount a piece of electronics.

Also, from what I heard, this boat sold for far less than $11,500. At least that's what the guy who sold it is saying.

Tdog posted 02-06-2009 06:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tdog  Send Email to Tdog     
I am going to test ride this 95 21ft outrage this weekend. I've already given a deposit on the boat contingement on sea trial and survey. Getting antsy. Can anyone compare the rides of different outrage models (early/mid/latter) of similar size?

I am trying to weigh all factors prior to making my decision to purchase. This boat has a T-top and no trailer. It also has older electronics. The hull itself is however in excellent original condition. Any other thoughts or things I should consider before making final commitment? Motor is clean w/low hours. Thanks

Walter G Hannig posted 02-07-2009 07:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Walter G Hannig    
May I ask what price the're asking? As you may have noted; I'm selling my 24' Whaler. I would not be afraid of the motor...very durable. I believe you'll be impressed with the ride. They feel like a much bigger boat than they are. My brother has a NEW 2006 32' Whaler with twin 275 Verado...seem unstopable in a good sea. Hope you get a chance to get out in some 4-5 footers. Good Luck!
Tdog posted 02-07-2009 09:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tdog  Send Email to Tdog     
Did test run of this boat today. Hull and rest of the boat was in excellent shape for the year (95). Motor was also very clean and ran well. After driving for 3 hours each way to see and try the boat decided not to purchase. The boat can be bought for 15k. Will make someone very happy. Didn't want to have to "add-on" T-top, and leaning post. Ride didn't seem as solid as the older 22 Outrages.
Guess I'm still on the hunt for the right boat.

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