posted 02-28-2009 09:23 PM ET (US)            

"I'm in general a very indecisive person and I'm starting to question the fact should I spend all this money to re-power a 1983 outrage 18 or should I sell it and buy a new boat alltogether."

I feel bad that you are backwards on this boat. Hang on to it. You have a new motor and a solid classic hull. If you feel I am being a Jerk because you do not like my honest opinions which you asked for then I do not know what to tell you. Whalers are expensive boats and not for everyone. You stated last year that you were not gong to buy another Whaler because you could not afford one.

"I'm (Samjtay2) starting to debate if I should re-power or just buy a new rig, of course I would not be able to afford a whaler, I would probably have to go with a keywest, pro-line, or something along those lines."

Don't blame my curtness as a reason not to buy another Whaler.

Try this. www.keywestboatsinc.com

posted 03-01-2009 09:32 AM ET (US)            

It's been written here many times, that when you find a nice Whaler, run, don't walk, and bring cash. Samjtay2 is under no obligation to do anything more than he already did. If he had been treated fairly, then we could all have had the chance to see photos of his boat. I'm always interested in seeing photos of 18 Outrages because it might give me ideas on how to better set up my own. The motor, electronics, canvas, and trailer alone are worth close to what he was offered.

I know I'll regret taking the time to write this.

posted 03-02-2009 11:50 AM ET (US)            

By stating that "Not sure I want to sell yet" and then in the next sentence state "If interested make offer or let me know what you think. " You are setting yourself up for all kinds of comments, good and bad.

Several have made offers that were definitely low ball but you did ask for offers.

Several have let you know what they think and you asked for that also.

I don't see where you have any room to call people a jerk for saying something that you asked for.

If you need to sell the boat look at this thread and watch how fast it goes.

posted 03-02-2009 01:13 PM ET (US)            

Unfortunately, as has been said here before, we have lost a lot of valuable people, with valuable information regarding whalers, from this site because some people don't know the meaning of the word "courtesy".

Newtauk1,
if you don't like the way Samjtay worded his post, move along, your sarcasm didn't do Samjtay or yourself any good....

posted 03-02-2009 09:35 PM ET (US)            

I have read many of your post. Wow thanks for all the on hands insight.

Here is one gem:

" FYI.....Feb/Mar issue of Boat U.s. Trailering Magazine has a "What's New" comparison article on the Boston Whaler 190 Nantucket, Grady White Tournament 205, Pro-Line 22 Walkaround, Century 2202 Bay Boat, & Aqua-sport 201 Osprey.

on our recent rendezvous to the Detroit Boat Show they neglected to have the 190 Nantucket or the 32 Outrage present for our inspection.....

posted 03-03-2009 08:53 AM ET (US)            

In this case. My opinion is the boat in question is worth between 11-15k. I suggested that the author make the post clearer in an effort to get better responses. I have submitted an offer of $5000.00.Given the current used boat market 5k is not an unreasonable initial offer. You have to start somewhere.

I suggested the owner hang onto the boat for a number of reasons:

1)They have a significant amount of money invested in it. About 25k and will likely not recoup the money.

2) It has a new motor on a good all around hull (the condition is unknown as the author failed to provide any photos or detailed description)

3) This is possible the worst time ever to sell a boat.

For all of the above I am called a Jerk and am dismissed. Sorry I am not the guy to take that. Period.

posted 03-03-2009 09:08 AM ET (US)            

Am I Pat from SNL? No.... You talk about name calling and make inferences about people because they call you out for your bad/uncalled for behavior. Some people are alive only because it's illegal to put them out of their misery!!! If you had a brain you'd be dangerous!!!! That funny enough for you?

posted 03-12-2009 02:07 AM ET (US)            

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In this market, $4,000 is NOT a sarcastic, or unrealistic offer

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posted 03-17-2009 09:29 PM ET (US)            

It has been a while since I have been checking up on CW forum. Not the same respectful dialog as years ago. There were plenty of disagreements...to be sure. Respect for others was the norm. Lets not drop to the lowest members standards by name calling, or return name calling, just move on and ignore them. If someone is out of line then DON'T RESPOND then they lose and go away. If they are acknowledged then they will continue.

samjtay2-sounds like a great boat, you can't beat the classic whaler repowered with a modern, quiet, and easy starting fuel injected 4 stroke. We have a 19/20 OR with a 225Hp yamaha and a 13SS with a 40 Honda. Sure sounds like you have the ultimate combination...you may want to hang on to it.

This economic situation has put boat buying on the back burner for most people. Your boat is different in that the 18 outrage is a prized commodity among the whaler community. $17500.00 is a pretty fair offer based on prices that other 18 ORs have brought recently. There are likely to be others like myself that wish your boat would have come along when we were in the market to buy.

All the best,

Boxers