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mojack posted 03-03-2009 06:35 PM ET (US)   Profile for mojack   Send Email to mojack  
A good friend of mine has a 22 outrage that he is basically been holding for me for a little over a year. The boat will be a great deal and will be plenty big for my family of 6. Problem is, I have a 13'er that I just put a '99 40 yamaha 4-stroke on last year. I really wanted to hold on to the 13'er for the kids to use and for me to use pulling them around the bay on tubes and such but I won't be able to justify keeping it.

The 13'er is a 73 model that was purchased new as a sourpus but the rails were removed by a previous owner. I bought the boat from Florida15 on this site. Some of you may know him. Good guy. I replaced the thwarts with 5/4 x 12 mahogany and they are beautiful. When I put the 40 on the back I upgraded the steering to teleflex since it has PT and T. The interior has the normal spider cracking and the outside is in overall good condition with the exception of some wharf or piling rash on the aft, starboard side. The motor runs perfectly and is more than enough power for the boat. It has a nice bimini top and custom canvas cover. I have a humminbird fishfinder mounted to the dash and the trailer is in very good condition with new axle and leaf springs last fall. I'll try to post pics but what I'd like to know is what is it worth in today's market (maybe even this spring) and if anyone on here would be interested in purchasing the boat from me.

I'm in Daphne, AL which is between Mobile and Pensacola. I frequently travel to Birmingham so I could help deliver....

AZdave posted 03-03-2009 11:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for AZdave  Send Email to AZdave     
I just googled your location. You need an Outrage! It looks like the best of all possible worlds for fishing and poking around barrier islands. You are correct in thinking that the 13' is better for dragging tubes around with kids. It's quicker and easier to turn and maneuver. I sold a 1968 13 Sport a little less than two years ago. It had a new (painted) trailer and a '99 Yamaha 30HP two stroke. It had spider cracks and an oxidized rub rail. It took a lot of lookers before it sold for just under $3000. In terms of condition, mine looked pretty good, It had very nice wood, most of it new and well finished, but not at the level you see in some posts here. By the way, my wife really likes the 18' Outrage. The railings and trailer fenders make it easy to get in and out of, and the v-hull and freeboard makes for confidence. Dave
Tohsgib posted 03-04-2009 11:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
I would say $3-4k depending on condition. I would also say you will regret it. When you have a 22' boat you NEED a little boat to gunkhole the backwaters in and tow to Whaler rendezvous.
mojack posted 03-04-2009 02:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for mojack  Send Email to mojack     
Thanks guys. I already know that I will miss the little boat and will regret letting it go after weekends of pulling the kids around with the 22. Only thing is the 22 is a phenomenal deal! We can't go anywhere with the whole family in the 13 which frequently leaves mom on the wharf by herself or with the little one.
Bigun, what do you think the motor by itself may be worth in very good condition?
It may be worth selling the boat and trailer separately from the motor?
Thanks!
Tohsgib posted 03-05-2009 10:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
I doubt that. Most boats fetch more $$ as a package. You just bought the engine so you know what it is worth.
Austin Whaler posted 03-07-2009 09:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for Austin Whaler  Send Email to Austin Whaler     
I personally would upgrade to the outrage, actually i did and i had less of a reason than you do. I am 15 and recently sold my 13 for $1600 and bought a 19. I got a decent deal but nothing outstanding as the boat needs to be restored. I am by myself most of the time and don't have a wife and little kid i would be leaving behind. i don't know how old your are but if you want to get them a 13 you can get them a 13 in need of restoration (i got mine for my birthday it was $100 with the trailer) you can help them bring it up to useable condition then after they outgrow it it they can sell and buy a 17 or something like that. this is what me and my dad did, and while he did help me some with money i put in as much as i could, and the work was done 75% of the time by me.
mojack posted 03-09-2009 11:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for mojack  Send Email to mojack     
thanks guys
wtdoggett posted 03-10-2009 03:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for wtdoggett  Send Email to wtdoggett     
I am looking to repower my 1978 13ft sport. Have you come up with a price for the package? 99 is a little older than what I am looking for. Is the motor in good condition? If you were to split them up, how much would you be asking for the Yamaha 40? Thanks, Tyler
mojack posted 03-10-2009 08:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for mojack  Send Email to mojack     
Hi wt,

The motor was actually manufactured in September 1999 as per the sticker. According to the dealer I purchased it from, the motor was put on the boat it came off of sometime in 2000. The motor was on a pontoon boat that was kept at a lake in Massachusettes somewhere. As you can imagine, the motor did not see very much use due to the short northern season. I put a brand new control box, cables and prop. I shipped the motor down from there and it did get about a 4 inch scratch on the cowling but it really doesn't look bad and I'm sure that if I was so inclined, I could get some touch up paint to match and would be able to repair it nicely.

I put a new axle, springs and bearings on the trailer last fall. I put a new teleflex steering wheel and cable on in December of last year, removing the old dual cable system that wasn't compatible with a motor with PT and T. According to the mechanic, the motor is in great condition and is running well.

For the package, I'd be shooting my foot if I took less than right around $4k and if I can't get that then I won't sell it. I really don't want to mess with splitting it up. Selling anything is a pain in the neck to me so I don't want to have to to sell two things :-).

Thanks for the interest. I'll try to get some pics on here when I have time, if you would like to see the one picture I have of the boat right after the motor was mounted, let me know and I'll email it to you.

~Derek

Florida15 posted 03-15-2009 08:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Florida15    
Hey Derek, hate to hear you're selling. What happened to the 35 Evinrude ? Surely it didn't quit on you. That old motor ran like a top.
mojack posted 03-16-2009 09:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for mojack  Send Email to mojack     
Hi Steve,
I had problems with the water pump, had it replaced and the flow still didn't improve then I got the fever for a 4 stroke. The guy that bought the motor from me told me told me that he broke several bolts getting the head cover off but when he got into it there was a bunch of old impeller parts in there blocking the flow. He said it ran like a top after he got it back together.
Not sure if I'll let it go since hearing that my company was going to be bought out.....
Derek

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