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SC Joe posted 03-26-2009 08:19 PM ET (US)   Profile for SC Joe   Send Email to SC Joe  
No connections; just saw it and droooled a little.

http:/ / cgi. ebay. com/ ebaymotors/ BOSTON-WHALER-INCREDIBLY-NICE-MUST- SEE-NO-RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a317Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7 c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1308Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q 2em14QQhashZitem270363399503QQitemZ270363399503QQptZFishingQ5fBoats

elaelap posted 03-26-2009 08:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Oh yeah. That wood looks as nice as my dad's old Mark 9 Jaguar.

Florida, Florida, Florida. Man do I get a little sick of that state when it comes to nice Whalers. Same with the Houston/Galveston area in Texas. Why not bring a bunch of those sweeties out to the west coast and make a bunch of money, some of you Southern (I almost said "red state") entrepreneurs?

Tuco

TransAm posted 03-27-2009 06:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for TransAm  Send Email to TransAm     
That would be against your principles Tony, right?. Entrepreneurialism & Capitalism are now portrayed as evil. Go to all that trouble to make some good dough like that, only to give almost half to the folks who sit around all day collecting welfare waiting for the money trees to start growing in the backyard. See what you folks on the Left are doing to yourselves ;-).
starlight marine posted 03-27-2009 08:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for starlight marine  Send Email to starlight marine     
Tell you what Tuco. You bring me a "retired" divemaster here to Fla and I'll send you back with a beautiful 1978 Montauk/90 Honda back with you. You guys seem to have all the Guardian's with recorvery/dive doors out "there". Take care, Capt. T
mgeiger posted 03-27-2009 08:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for mgeiger    
Nice. I like the rod holders and dash overlay. I don't care for routing the fuel filter right by the fuse panel and over the battery.
elaelap posted 03-27-2009 10:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Funny you mention that, Capt T. One of the partners in our "Strike3" group (Matt/placerville, Warren/WT and I) just picked up a pretty nice 22-ft Divemaster, and we're in the planning stage right now regarding what to do with that boat. After seeing the restoration work you did a couple of years back on a smaller BW skiff (I forget, it was one you brought back from the brink of its grave and I believe it is now in the showroom of a Whaler dealer), we use you and Starlight Marine as an example of one end--the highest end--of the repair/restore continuum. We're sorta on the other end, satisfied with getting our partnership boats--this one will be our fourth--into strongly functional but not all that great cosmetic condition.

For instance, here's a photo of our current boat, a one-of-a-kind Boston Whaler prototype from the early 'seventies. If you're wondering, that cap/cabin is OE. We've been in touch with Chuck Bennett about this craft and he tells us she's the only one in the world...some might say for a good reason ;-) Too bad you're all the way across country, Capt T. If everything goes as planned, we're going to be selling this boat soon and putting our efforts into the Divemaster, and this boat will make some top end Whaler restorationist think he died and went to heaven.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Strike3saltmaiden003.jpg

Check out how high, dry and level she sits. Moves right along as well with that 'zuki 140.

Tony

Bo Neato posted 03-27-2009 10:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bo Neato  Send Email to Bo Neato     
Wow, the only thing that boat is missing in the pic is it's proud owner enjoying a frosty IPA after a productive day on the water!
elaelap posted 03-27-2009 10:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Against my principles, T.A.?! Since you're trolling, I'll bite: My "principles" are Jeffersonian, favoring small farm and business capitalism over faceless multi-national corporatism. Give me hundreds of Starlight Marines (or Fisher's original Boston Whaler business) and I'll be happy. You can keep your Brunswick corps. And by the way, seems to me that the big guys are the ones getting all the welfare right now, to the tune of gazillions of bucks in corporate bailouts and bonuses for failure over the past eight years.

Tony

P.S. I'm a small businessman myself, T.A., and have been for the past twenty-five years. Please get your facts straight, so if you're trolling you're at least using the right lure.

TransAm posted 03-27-2009 11:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for TransAm  Send Email to TransAm     
Well, I'm a small business man too. And believe me, you don't have to be a "Brunswick" type corporate conglomerate to hear the sound of Big Government sucking the life out your bottom line. I think you will find most conservatives towing the line against bail-outs in general-I think we share common ground in that regard; I think GM should be allowed to file Chapter 11, or 7 if necessary, just like the rest of failed businesses. So yeah, I agree, do get your facts straight.

But my point was less about big corporations and bailouts but rather as it pertains to your entrepreneurial idea of importing a bunch of classic Whalers to the Left Coast. That being without sufficient motive (profit), why take the risk? I believe in a risk/reward type business model. You take big entrepreneurial risk, you get big entrepreneurial reward. Seems fair to me. Without the reward, why take the risk? I think you will find that mindset is/will be shared by all entrepreneurs as the government carves off increasing amounts of the rewards stifling a new generation of creative, risk-takers, including the future Dick Fishers of the world.

elaelap posted 03-27-2009 12:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Zzzzzz. The same old double-think. Republicans oppose "Big Government" yet the past eight years saw the largest increase in the size of government, and the largest deficit, in our nation's history--that's with a Republican president and a Republican congress for six of those years; eight years for the self-proclaimed "compassionate conservative" president without one veto of a spending bill initiated by the Republican congress. It's such total B.S., and I just don't believe a bright guy like you actually believes this stuff, T.A., so why parrot the patently false line, since the hard facts themselves are totally disconnected from your tired economic philosophy?

I know, I know--your line now is that Bush and the Republican congress weren't true conservatives, true free-marketeers. Well let me tell you something that has to be obvious to any rational human being: There is NO SUCH THING AS A FREE MARKET WHEN WE'VE GOT MULTI-NATIONAL CORPORATIONS RUNNING THE WORLD'S ECONOMY. It's a myth, a fabrication, an evil joke.

Oh, and just one more thing: back in the late 1950s, when Fisher was getting BW going, the tax rate on the top 2% was much higher than it is now. Now maybe that would have bothered the Brunswick bean counters and CEOs, but it didn't seem to slow down ol' Dick.

Tony

P.S. Please show me where the word "corporation" is mentioned even once in our nation's founding documents--our Declaration of Independence, Federalist Papers, Constitution, or Bill of Rights. No can do, eh? Yet many of you right-wingers think that a corporate economic structure is somehow ordained by the Founders. Man, how brainwashed have many of us become.

TransAm posted 03-27-2009 01:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for TransAm  Send Email to TransAm     
That question would be relevant if us individuals were treated differently in the absence of forming a corporate shell. But id we make too much dough, as individuals, the target gets painted on our backs as individuals. But if it were there, it would be right next to where those documents say government should be running private sector economies and seizing control private enterprise.

The good ole USA, and our evil capitalistic ways have created the greatest country on earth in the blink of an historical eye when compared to every other major world economy. Liberty, Tony, Liberty. Add this to your reading list http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Liberty-and-Tyranny/Mark-R-Levin/e/ 9781416562856/?itm=2
I'm waiting for the historical novel on the great successes of socialism in world history. Maybe some Ruski historian will step to the plate and write about all the great successes in Russian socialistic history.

TransAm posted 03-27-2009 01:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for TransAm  Send Email to TransAm     
In keeping with the original thread, I think the faux wood dash panel is cheesy. No faux anything on a classic Whaler. Otherwise looks pretty good.
starlight marine posted 03-27-2009 02:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for starlight marine  Send Email to starlight marine     
Sorry to pull you guys off politics but.... Tony, I like that thing. Nice job on that superstructure . You guys need the protection out west. Here, we go "topless" and maybe a bimini. With the baby it's all just for fun now. The commercial diving days behind me. My offer stands when you're ready to find me a divemaster. All the best, thanks for the kind words on the Sakonett. Almost bought another project one but..."been there, done that" Take care , Capt. T
elaelap posted 03-27-2009 07:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Thanks on two counts, Capt T: First, for pulling me out of the political discussion; and second, for your nice thoughts about our strange Whaler. If you've got the time, how about posting some photos (or a link to the past thread) about your Sakonett restoration, maybe over in the GAM forum. I'd sure like to see the photos of that beautiful boat once again, and I know that there are many new CW members who didn't see it at all. Best,

Tony

starlight marine posted 03-28-2009 08:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for starlight marine  Send Email to starlight marine     
Will do Tony. Off to work but will get back to this,T
aubv posted 03-28-2009 08:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
Tony,

Seems to me that those faceless multi-national corporations started as small businesses.

So, should there be a goverement program to dictate the size of a business?

SC Joe posted 03-30-2009 02:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for SC Joe  Send Email to SC Joe     
Well it's up to $9700. I would have paid that much for one had I not bought a new one.

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