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Chicago John posted 04-06-2009 01:07 AM ET (US)   Profile for Chicago John   Send Email to Chicago John  
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/boa/1108170573.html
I looked at this boat 2 weeks ago. It was listed as an 86 hull and the seller told me over the phone that the engine was a 93. On the way to look at it the seller tells me over the phone that he was confused about the hull and that its really a 78. Check the serial number on the engine and lo and behold it turns out to be an 85...oops.
Last week the boat relists as a 78 with an 85 engine that was rebuilt in 93.
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/boa/1078366512.html

This week its listed on Craigslist Chicago with no mention of the rebuild on the engine.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/boa/1108170573.html

Jeff posted 04-06-2009 09:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jeff  Send Email to Jeff     
I often get sellers who have little idea on the exact year of the hull the have for sale. Heck the 13 I just got has the HIN correct which shows it is a 1975 on the title but in the year on the title it is listed as an 1982 by the state.

Other than not knowing the exact year of the hull what was the condition of the boat in person? Your buyer beware statement would lead people to believe there was much more wrong than year listed. If the boat was clean and free of major damage the price is in the average range for a clean looking freshwater 17' hull with older carb'd power.

If the boat checks out to be sound in person and the price is right what is wrong?

Chicago John posted 04-06-2009 10:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chicago John  Send Email to Chicago John     
Jeff

The real problem with this (at least to me) was the sellers representation of the engine. I had no problem with the age of the hull being wrong, the hull is beautiful. I gave him a deposit and went home, thats when when I discovered that the engine was built in 85 not 93, 8 years older than stated by the seller.
Seller was not willing to renegotiate the price so I got my deposit back.
A week later he relists it on Craigslist with the correct years on the engine and hull, and NOW says in the listing that the engine was rebuilt in 93. The rebuild was never mentioned to me in any of our conversations.
This week the boat is back on Chicago Craigslist with NO MENTION of the rebuild.
Sorry I smell RAT.

Tohsgib posted 04-06-2009 11:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
Here is where it helps to be educated in boats/engines. All boats from like 1973-up have a HIN number on transom. The last 2 or 3 digits show the year as in 86 or 86B, etc. The engines are easy as well, especially if familiar with decals and paint schmes like I am. You can always ask here with a model # or serial # if a Mercury or go here:

http://www.boatmotors.com/cgi-bin/motorparts/help.cgi?help=year

Tohsgib posted 04-06-2009 11:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
PS motors after say 1998 or so will usually have a date of manufacture on it or will say "This engine conforms to 2001 model year emmissions" or some sort.
Tohsgib posted 04-06-2009 11:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
PSS..off the bat I know that engine is either a 1984 or 1985 by the decals that they used for 2 years.
Chicago John posted 04-06-2009 06:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chicago John  Send Email to Chicago John     
Thanks T... I "decoded" the serial number using the Evinrude book that I found on the net. Had I done that before driving 80 miles each way (twice) I could have saved quite a bit of time and agro.

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