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Blake Brown posted 04-07-2009 08:40 PM ET (US)   Profile for Blake Brown   Send Email to Blake Brown  
Hey guys hopefully you can help me. My 74 year old father is trying to sell his 1987 outrage. He is the second owner, his best friend was the first who used it once and got in a fatal accident on a bike. It has never been in salt water and only rarely in fresh. He is very anal and has kept it spotless. It is stored inside with a cover on it and a cover to keep the cover clean. It has a dual wheel painted trailer that is in good shape. The engines are a 1988 150 Johnson, and a 1988 25 horse yamaha. Both motors are started and run to keep the seals lubed on a regular basis. The boat had a professional check up 2 years ago. This boat has had minimal use and is always cared for. He even runs all the gas out of the carbs after he uses the boat. It is located in the desert so moisture has never been a problem. It has never been redone in any way, since it has been pampered it's entire life. My dad would like 15,000 and his neighbor would like to buy it but wants a appraisal. Dad has no problem with that but there is no one qualified where he lives in western Colorado. You guys probably see more whalers than any one else so would appreciate your opinions. I don't know how to post pictures but if you need them I will happily send you them. Any questions just ask. Thank you in advance.
Jeff posted 04-07-2009 09:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jeff  Send Email to Jeff     
Blake,

If you would like to send the images to jrohlfing at gmail dot com (you know how to put it together) I would be happy to get them up for you.

DaveS posted 04-07-2009 09:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for DaveS  Send Email to DaveS     
Blake,

It sounds like you might have a rare commodity, a late 1980's 18' Outrage in great condition. Good luck! I'm not going to speculate on a price, there are others more qualified than me on this board to do that but I'll give you a suggestion to get baseline to what's out there in your boat size. Go to websites like boattraderonline.com and search for an 18' Outrage. You'll see prices all over the place but take a good look at the pictures and then compare them to your boat. I'm going to go out on a limb and say yours would be in much better shape then the others.

Good luck with the sale.

DaveS

Dan posted 04-08-2009 08:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dan  Send Email to Dan     
I remember this boat being discussed in this forum several years ago.
Jeff posted 04-08-2009 09:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jeff  Send Email to Jeff     
Ah yes Dan....The infamous Waterrat Thread. I still have images of the boat.

http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d1/whalerforsale/blakes%20whaler/

For 15 grand I personally think you neighbor is getting a hell of a deal. I bet others here would be willing to pay that if not maybe more.

Buckda posted 04-08-2009 11:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
I'm on the same page as Jeff -

If the boat is as described, your neighbor is getting a very good "good neighbor" discount. In a good economy, that boat would fetch a price in the high teens in a wealthy, boating community; and perhaps more in the West.

Blackduck posted 04-08-2009 11:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for Blackduck  Send Email to Blackduck     
While I would agree that this a great boat, $15,000 in this market is a very good price for your father, and he should jump on the offer.
aja posted 04-08-2009 01:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for aja  Send Email to aja     
That is a beautiful boat and a unique circumstance for sure, but to be honest I would be hesitant to pay that much, primarily because that price is so much higher than other similar boats (for obvious reasons), but as soon as someone who uses it much owns it for a year or two it will get absolutely hammered by depreciation as it's value falls back in line with the market.
I suppose the other question to ask is why is it being purchased: as an investment then it isn't very good toy, but as a wonderful toy to enjoy regardless of cost, it is a nice setup!
Peter posted 04-08-2009 06:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
Whoever buys it should donate it to the Smithsonian. That is a national treasure. ;)
Blake Brown posted 04-13-2009 08:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Blake Brown  Send Email to Blake Brown     
Yes Dan this is that same water rat whaler. I remember you writing me a note asking about it. My father had it sold for 19K to a fellow from the east coast. Paid a 500 dollar deposit then his business took a dive in this depression. He had to back out at the last minute. It really is a perfect all original boat but Dad is just to old to keep polishing it. Thanks for the help. You guys make me wish I had the money to buy it just so I could keep talking to you about Boston Whalers.
tedious posted 04-13-2009 09:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for tedious    
Wow - that's quite a boat, and the fanciest trailer I've every seen. Never seen whitewalls on a trailer before.

Tim

Wasatch Whaler posted 04-15-2009 08:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for Wasatch Whaler  Send Email to Wasatch Whaler     
I belive that Whalers in pristine shape command (and deserve) a premium over their "average" counterpart.

There really aren't very many 20+ year old boats in exceptional condition. To restore one takes a lot of time any money.

I disagree with aja's post to the extent that if the purchaser keeps it in exceptional condition when he goes to sell it, he too should get a premium.

While he's not selling, (at least not to my knowledge) do you really think any of LHG's Whalers would sell for less than a significant premium over the "market" price of similar models?

I think Jeff and Dave are correct that your neighbor is getting a great boat (and a great value) at $15K.

onlyawhaler posted 04-17-2009 11:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for onlyawhaler  Send Email to onlyawhaler     
That is a beautiful outrage. I would suspect there are only a couple in that type of original mint condition.

Jay, you have the other one.

These are such wonderful American classics. I compare a mint 18 Outrage to things like a 63 split rear window Corvette. It is one of those most sought after classic Whaler models.

Terrific boat, go for it. 15K is a steal for one like that. Somethings are just worth the money.

Sterling
Onlyawhaler

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