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NeverLand posted 05-29-2009 10:38 AM ET (US)   Profile for NeverLand   Send Email to NeverLand  
Have found and am looking at a 1983 25' Outrage w/cuddy. Repowered in 2003 with twin Suzuki 140's. 280 hours.

Was owned from new by one guy who did the repower. Bought last season, or season before, by a guy who is having a liquidity crunch. New fuel tanks last year b/c of tank failure. New trailer.

Have seen pics plan to see boat this weekend.

How will this boat move with the power it has?

Are there particular things I should be looking for?

Assuming a dry and solid hull, what's the fair price range for a boat like this?

Your help/thoughts greatly appreciated.

Jeff posted 05-29-2009 11:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jeff  Send Email to Jeff     

At the very bottom of this page I have a PDF document you can download. This is a document I wrote up and use as a go by when looking at Whaler. There are about 29 pages of things to consider and all may not apply but, it give you a good idea of things to ask and look at.

I am willing to put money down that they is no Whaler in existence that has been used and is 100% dry. Weighing the hull can tell you if it is overly heavy but that can be tough to do. If there is a concern of water intrusion I find that if you float the hull and get a look as where the waterline falls that can be the best way to get a sense of a boat's "waterlogged-ness".

What's a fair price? Well it really depends on condition. Also, today there are prices all over the board. I would expect to see a boat like that listed at $16,500 - the low / mid 20's.

Tohsgib posted 05-29-2009 11:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
What is he asking for it? Motors alone were probably close to $20k installed. Great engines and very economical. Should run pretty well in low 40's maybe. Bud has twin 115's on his 23 SeaCraft(heavy boat) and he gets about 45mph and burns about 10-11gph at cruise which is low 4's for him. He runs his pretty hard and has probably 800 hours and never seen a dealer yet. I also have a 115 Suzuki and no problems in 3 years.
highspeed_jd posted 05-29-2009 07:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for highspeed_jd  Send Email to highspeed_jd     
I have twin 140 Johnsons on my 1984 25 Outrage with a T-Top and it will top out at 48 MPH. Look at what kind of shape the trough hull fittings are in. A guy had one loose a screw and it ended up seperating the fiberglass from the foam.
highspeed_jd posted 05-29-2009 07:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for highspeed_jd  Send Email to highspeed_jd     
Also look at the transom where the motors bolt to it. There are spider cracks that tend to show up. Also on the transom see if there are any cracks at the top of the transom where it is sealed to the boat. If I remember more I'll post it up or you can email me.


NeverLand posted 05-29-2009 09:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for NeverLand  Send Email to NeverLand     
Thanks for the great comments and guidance.

Planning to see and sea the boat on Sunday. Seller is asking $18,5 but has "bottom-lined" it at $15K.

Pics look good though there's a strange metal "L" bracket that runs across the inside of the transome between the motors. Need to understand that "feature".

Q: where should this particular boat sit in the H20 for me to know wheather or not it's truly water-logged?

Many thanks

jimh posted 05-31-2009 01:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Please limit the discussion here to the appraisal of the value of this particular boat.

If you need general advice on evaluating used boats and motors, you should not use MARKETPLACE for those discussions. Also, please do not begin discussions about boat performance in MARKETPLACE.

MARKETPLACE should be used strictly for offers of FOR SALE, WANTED TO BUY, or for APPRAISALS of individual boats.

Thank you.

sraab928 posted 05-31-2009 07:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for sraab928  Send Email to sraab928     
If its the boat I am thinking of it has been advertised for quite some time. Maybe because his asking price but one never knows. Be sure to look over her real good. If a Boston Whaler sits on the market for a while its one of two things. Price or Condition. I think the real value is in the motors. The hull can bring depending on condition anywhere from 3k on up. Of course add for current electronics, trailer etc.

I would suspect the metal bracket you are referring to is a transom brace.

crabby posted 05-31-2009 10:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for crabby  Send Email to crabby     
If it is the boat in Lindenhurst I have seen it on the water and it moves nicely cruising down the State Channel. It certainly made me consider twin Suzukis for my repower.

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