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MarcoWhalo posted 06-05-2009 03:28 PM ET (US)   Profile for MarcoWhalo   Send Email to MarcoWhalo  
I am located in northern Virgina 20 miles west of DC near Route 66. Both boats are priced at $11,900 including the Gator trailer.

The first boat is a 1987 22 ft. Standard Outrage with a 1987 Yamaha 225 HO Excel 2.6 liter motor with ~1400 hours. The motor runs well, has no known problems and has been maintained by Anthony at Dumfries (Va.) Marine. The boat does 48 mph (gps). The boat has the super console, electronics box, VHF, am/fm stereo, fish finder and rear bench seat. The boat is without spider cracks and in very good condition. There are three cosmetic issues that are simple fixes; the first is the black film that is located on the top of the center console is pealing up, the second is the cushion for the leaning post is starting to un-staple itself from the post in one area, the third is one under gunwhale rod holder has started to come apart. Pictures:

The second boat is a 1988 22 ft. Outrage Cuddy with a 1988 200 hp Yamaha 2.6 liters with ~300 hours. The motor runs well and looks new. The boat does 41 mph (gps). The boat has a standard console, VHF, fish finder and a rear bench seat which needs work and I removed. The boat is without spider cracks and in good condition. The interior looks new and has the original cushions and lamp shades. There are three (3) cosmetic issues that are simple fixes; the first is a missing 1.5 ft. piece of the hard part that the rub rail snaps into (see picture), the second is the hinge on the lid to the cuddy cabin is becoming loose, the third is the solar powered fan on the top vent on the cuddy does not work. Pictures:

The galvanized steel trailer is a 1974 which has bunks, cross members and rollers. It does not have brakes. It is roadworthy although two of the tires might need replacing which I can do.

I am planning on selling one boat. I am letting the market dictate which boat I keep. I like both equally. Please email if you have any questions.

Jessielove posted 06-05-2009 05:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jessielove  Send Email to Jessielove     
Here are some links to the pictures:



Contender25 posted 06-05-2009 05:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Contender25  Send Email to Contender25     
Nice boats, what brand cover is that covering the 22 with the superconsole?


MarcoWhalo posted 06-07-2009 01:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for MarcoWhalo  Send Email to MarcoWhalo     
I tried to find out what brand of cover I have but the tag came off. It fits well. I've had it for 4 years. If I can find out the brand I will post it....Mark
Ritzyrags posted 06-08-2009 09:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
You have done rather well.
To be blessed with such ownership.
I do love both of them;
But my heart goes to the cuddy..
I am sure that a lot of us will see the light in your offerings.
If only you were closer then a quarter of the globe's circumference..
MarcoWhalo posted 06-18-2009 07:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for MarcoWhalo  Send Email to MarcoWhalo     
The price has been reduced to $10,900 (recession special). Both are turnkey boats. Thanks.
Narragansett Outrage posted 06-19-2009 08:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for Narragansett Outrage  Send Email to Narragansett Outrage     
This seems like a very fine price for that Cuddy Cabin; the recession really must be playing a role if you can't move it at that price.
MarcoWhalo posted 07-16-2009 02:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for MarcoWhalo  Send Email to MarcoWhalo     
The price for the Outrage cuddy has been lowered to $9,995. Just replaced the primer bulb with a Marpac designed for ethanol E10 & E85 blends.
Blackduck posted 07-16-2009 03:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Blackduck  Send Email to Blackduck     
If those boats are as good as advertised, I agree, extremely fairly priced. Getting into the "flipable" area of temptation. Glad they are a little far away for me.
toolmankan posted 07-16-2009 04:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for toolmankan  Send Email to toolmankan     
What's the length (on the standard outrage) from the rear of the motor (assuming it's not tilted up) to the front tip of the trailer (as accurate as possible)?

Also, what is the measurement from the concrete to the top of the windshield.

I'm calculating garage fit...

Secondly, you're not looking to trade for a 1986 Montauk by chance? I'm trying to sell mine to buy an Outrage.

rgy posted 07-17-2009 10:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for rgy  Send Email to rgy     
what's the trailer with the center console?
goinboatn posted 07-19-2009 05:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for goinboatn  Send Email to goinboatn     
Are these boats self bailing?
thewad posted 07-29-2009 04:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for thewad  Send Email to thewad     
is the standard still for sale .
MarcoWhalo posted 08-03-2009 09:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for MarcoWhalo  Send Email to MarcoWhalo     
I just got the standard back from the mechanic (Dunfries Marine). I had the carbs cleaned and the plugs, fuel filter, impeller, and gear oil changed. The motor is mechanically as turnkey as you can get. The boat is for sale for $10,500 with the galvanized trailer.

The outrage cuddy is also turnkey and is for sale for $9,500 with the galvanized trailer.

The reason that these boats are still for sale is because I had a buyer for the the standard pending the mechanics work but he backed out without telling me. In the meantime I turned down two other buyers who subsequently bought other boats.

Russ 13 posted 08-03-2009 04:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Russ 13  Send Email to Russ 13     
Is thecuddy still for sale?
And if so, how many hours on the Yamaha?
Thanks, Russ
MarcoWhalo posted 08-04-2009 09:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for MarcoWhalo  Send Email to MarcoWhalo     
Both boats (including the cuddy) are till for sale. The Yamaha has approximately 300 hours on it and is in great shape. The pics are on photobucket.
Russ 13 posted 08-04-2009 02:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Russ 13  Send Email to Russ 13     
I am interrested in the cuddy,would you sell the cuddy with the trailer that is under the other boat?
And if so, is the alum. trailer roadworthy for 800 miles?
How much weight does the cuddy add to the boat?
Thanks, Russ
MarcoWhalo posted 08-05-2009 10:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for MarcoWhalo  Send Email to MarcoWhalo     
I bought the aluminum trailer a few seasons ago for over $4K. Since I plan on trailering (sp) the remaining boat quite a bit I would like to keep it. If I were to sell it I would have to add $3K to the price.

Both trailers are road worthy but the one for sale does not have brakes.

The factory specs for the boat say that the cuddy weighs 200 lbs more. The only difference I can tell in operating them is that the cuddy has a little more weight in the bow and subsequently rides a little smoother than the standard outrage.

Russ 13 posted 08-06-2009 11:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Russ 13  Send Email to Russ 13     
A few more questions....
How much does the cuddy weigh - total boat weight?
Other than the bottom paint, has the hull or deck ever been painted?
Are the brass through hull fittings ( drain tubes) still in good shape?
Thanks, Russ
MarcoWhalo posted 08-06-2009 02:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for MarcoWhalo  Send Email to MarcoWhalo     
I never weighed the boat myself but the factory specs state that the hull weighs 2,200 lbs or 200 lbs more than the standard outrage. The engine adds 500 lbs for a total of 2,700. Add 300 for battery, some gas, anchor, etc. My guesstimate is 3,000 lbs as it sits not including the trailer.

The hull (except the bottom) has not been painted and doesn't have spider cracks. The through hull tubes are in good shape. I can replace them since I both size tubes and flaring tools.

MarcoWhalo posted 08-27-2009 12:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for MarcoWhalo  Send Email to MarcoWhalo     
Outrage cuddy sold to an existing whaler owner. I will share my top ten experiences:

1. The standard model 22' outrage is more popular by about a 4-1 margin (surprisingly).
2. Don't believe that someone is interested in buying unless they are willing to put down a deposit.
3. Whaler owners are more knowledgeable about whalers (not surprising) and boats in general.
4. The prices for all toys (boats, RVs, motorcycles (my other passion), etc) have come down considerably along with the housing market although whalers have retained their value better than most.
5. The boat was found (and sold) through craigslist. I sold another whaler 5 years ago and the buyer found it through cragslist.
6. Don't sell two nearly identical boats at the same time. It confuses people and they compare one to the other.
7. List the boat as early in the year as possible.
8. Take good photos but not too many.
9. Clean the boat and take out all the junk especially if it is not standard.
10. Make sure the trailer is roadworthy so the new owner can get it home safely.

themclos posted 08-28-2009 12:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for themclos  Send Email to themclos     

Congratulations on the sale. Somebody got a nice boat at a reasonable price.


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