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mike64 posted 06-18-2009 04:18 PM ET (US)   Profile for mike64   Send Email to mike64  
im repainting the inside of my whaler
and replaceing the console.
it has a 2004 90 merc
with low hours

im thinking of flipping it

is 16k too pricy for the classic ? or should i ask more...


mike

Parrot6909 posted 06-18-2009 04:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for Parrot6909  Send Email to Parrot6909     
Montauks were not made in 1964. If you are painting the inside that will detract from the value of the boat as well. 16,000? Way overpriced.
HAPPYJIM posted 06-18-2009 05:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
I say paint her up and get top dollar for her. Sherwin-Williams has some great colors to chose from. May I be so bold to suggest #6271 Expressive Plum for the interior. The exterior could be splashed with #6219 Rain. Color is so creative and it's simple and lots of fun. I'll bet you could get 20K + for her with the proper accessories. Here's a ton of ideas that could fill hours matching the perfect interior to hull combo.

http://www.sherwin.com/visualizer/

mike64 posted 06-18-2009 05:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for mike64  Send Email to mike64     
actually i looked at the title and found out its a 1963
i dont know what model it is
do you know what model 16/17' whalers they made in 63?
Buckda posted 06-18-2009 05:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Mike -

Seriously, the only way you'd see $16K for a 1960's era 16' hull is if it were all original and MINT....I MEAN MINT condition AND....


AND....

You had a documented full history of the vessel and it served some kind of honorary or noteworthy duty (like aboard a presidential yacht as a tender).

Seriously.

You have a bunch of things going against you on price:
1. Whaler made a boatload of those hulls from 196X - 2005 or so. There are literally hundreds of that hull available in a very flooded boat market filled with sellers desperate to generate cash and move boats (of all types, sizes and makes).
2. Any type of paint - even the highest quality finishes - detract from the collectible value of a classic. Only a collector will pay top dollar for a boat, and collectors are pretty particular about details like original finish and fittings.
3. You are also replacing OEM equipment (i.e. the console).

Essentially, you have reduced the boat to the combined value of a 196X Whaler hull and the motor.

I'd say $4K is closer to the ballpark you are staring out at.

Probably not a "flippable" boat.

You are in florida, so you know the market is flooded. Ask any boat broker what he'd get for it. That will bring you back to earth pretty quickly...it's a scary market right now for sellers (but pretty attractive for buyers!)

For a history of that hull and the models built upon it, I suggest you visit the reference section of this fine site:
http://www.continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/16-17/ They started production in 1961.

Tohsgib posted 06-19-2009 10:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
I had a decent but dry and original 69 hull with 1995 Merc and I got $2900 last week for it in FL. Even if it has a mint paintjob(awlgrip) and a retro mohagany console/seat and the Merc is a 4 stroke, I doubt $10k...more like $7k. $16k would never happen unless a museum piece barn find and even then you would have to find the .0001% of the population that desires it.

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