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Jessielove posted 07-12-2009 07:28 PM ET (US)   Profile for Jessielove   Send Email to Jessielove  
Not mine, but thought someone here might be interested.

http://rochester.craigslist.org/boa/1265863563.html

witsendfl posted 07-13-2009 08:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for witsendfl  Send Email to witsendfl     
I did not know that Whaler made HOBIE Cats

This FORUM is a changin

witsendfl

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mojack posted 07-13-2009 08:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for mojack  Send Email to mojack     
Doesn't look like a Hobie or a Prindle to me. Did BW really make a catamaran??
anthonylisske posted 07-13-2009 10:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for anthonylisske  Send Email to anthonylisske     
Yep, they made them.
fishgutz posted 07-15-2009 11:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for fishgutz  Send Email to fishgutz     
Here is a history of Supercat Catamarans: http://www.aquarius-sail.com/main/about_us.htm
I got to crew on a Supercat 20 in the Nationals held in Racine Wisconsin in the summer of 1984. At the awards ceremony, Tom Haberman announced that he was buying the company from Boston Whaler.
Jessielove posted 07-15-2009 07:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jessielove  Send Email to Jessielove     
Fishgutz,

Were the two hulls foam filled or hollow to minimize weight when BW owned and made them? How about before/after BW?

Jessielove posted 07-15-2009 07:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jessielove  Send Email to Jessielove     
Fishgutz, I noticed after reading the history of supercats and re-reading the ad selling it, the seller is listing it as a 1985 model. Is this probably a mistake and the boat is actually a 1984 if it is indeed a BW boat and not from the people who bought it from BW?

I wonder, could it also be a 1985 that someone added BW stickers to?

fishgutz posted 07-16-2009 09:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for fishgutz  Send Email to fishgutz     
The Supercats were built like Hobies and Prindles among others. It was foam sandwich. Not completely filled with foam. They were gelcoat on the outside, glass, about a half inch or foam and a layer of glass on the inside. The hulls were hollow but usually had a few bulkheads in them. They used woven glass (no chopper) and the boats were amazingly strong. At a race in Racine I saw a Supercat 17 run right into the breakwater wall at speed. It cracked the hull and crinkled it a bit. They were able to easily sail it to shore. It took quite a hit.

As for the one on Craiglist, it could be an '85 model made in '84. Not sure when they actually took the Boston Whaler name off. Perhaps they built boats together for a year or two. Not sure.

fishgutz posted 07-16-2009 01:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for fishgutz  Send Email to fishgutz     
Boston Whaler SuperCats came in 4 sizes. 20 ft. with about a 12 foot beam and daggerboards. Then came the 17 and 15 footers with 8 foot beams. The 17 and 15 did not have daggerboards. Then they came out with a 19 that had an 8 foot beam and daggerboards.

The SuperCats were the fastest at the time. The round bottoms made them easier to tack than most other "beach cats" and the rounded topsides made them almost impossible to pitchpole. Pitchpoling is when you run a cat downwind and the sail pushes the forward part of the leeward hull down into the water. On a Hobie, Prindle, Aztec, Sol, etc. once the deck lip went underwater the whole boat would do a forward somersault (crash and burn). Woohoo, what fun. The SuperCats could actually submarine a hull and keep going forward with speed. Sweet.

The SuperCat 20 had to be assembled on the beach as it was wider than the legal (at the time) 8 foot highway width limit. Or occasionally you'd see one angled on a trailer completely assembled with one hull about 8 feet in the air. Some people had an expensive telescoping trailer for assembly. They later came out with the 19 so people could trailer a longer/faster boat.

I crewed on a 20 in the Nationals in Racine in 1984 for the biggest jerk in sailing history. His own wife wouldn't set foot on the boat because he'd turn into such a monster. I think we placed 2nd or 3rd. Mostly because of my sailing ability, not his.

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