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jmarlo posted 10-14-2009 08:49 PM ET (US)
I've been watching the market somewhat, and am at a loss as to what I might be able to get if I end up deciding to sell my 1981 22 Revenge. Tentative plans are to sell down to a Montauk that I can keep in garage.
I'd say my boat is in very clean, turnkey condition. 2004 Motor is in excellent condition with approx 225 hours, stainless prop. Trailer just been serviced with 4 new tires August. Will do 45mph easily.
No bottom paint, excellent Mills canvas, custom bow pulpit, stern seat, porta potti, lots of TLC.
I realize that this is the worse time to sell boat, given economy, time of year, etc. But its a good exercise to see what I may be able to sell for. Let me know.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/jmarlo/IMG_0004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/jmarlo/SEAT3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/jmarlo/IMG_0005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/jmarlo/deckids.jpg

WT posted 10-15-2009 02:32 AM ET (US)
Here are a few more pictures.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/warrent/2007%20Rendezvous/ DSC_6131.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/warrent/2007%20Rendezvous/ DSC_6124.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v665/warrent/ 2007%20Rendezvous%20Movies/?action=view¤t=DSCN0137.flv
deweede posted 10-15-2009 09:11 AM ET (US)
This is exactly the boat I am looking for. If you decide to sell, and are on the east coast, please advise.
Cordially,
Derek Dewees
Whaler_bob posted 10-15-2009 09:44 AM ET (US)
Wow! Beautiful rig....
After seeing your boat, do you really think you'll be happy with a Montauk?
Completely different concept/ride altogether, it would be akin to going from a Montauk to a 13' Sport. I've found that the Montauk is a bit undersized for our area (Long Island Sound) for all except the best summer days.
Jeff posted 10-15-2009 10:57 AM ET (US)
It really is a tough one. The 22 Revenges never seem to be as sought after as the Outrages or Revenge Walk Throughs. Being in the middle of the west coast is a plus as west coast Whalers always bring some of the higher prices on average. Also with your location it is still with in reach for those in Seattle to Baja.
What is it worth? That is a tough one. Unfortunatly with the new motor you will lose a lot of the value of the other work you put into the vessel. I could see it listing for $15,000 - $20,000 and selling for something in that range. Honestly, I would pick the price that would make you feel as though it was worth selling it and stick to it. If it sells great if not, oh well. That is how I sold my 22 Outrage. I really never thought I would sell it but the right educated buyer saw it on this site and bought it site unseen. He got a great boat and I got what I was asking.
Selling my 22 Outrage and going down to my 17 Newport was really one of the best moves I made for my life today. It is a no hassel boat that is easily trailered behind any small car, burns little fuel, big enough to get the family and I on the big water, takes an hour to wash and wax and fits in my garage. Sure I still would love to have a 22 or 25 Outrage Cuddy or Revenge W/T but I know it just would not be the right boat for right now.
Good luck on your sale.
jmarlo posted 10-15-2009 11:35 AM ET (US)
Warren--thanks for posting the photos, very nice of you.
Jeff--Its good to see that moving down in size has actually worked for someone and they are happy with the decision.
If I make a move it has to be to a garageable boat--so that I can get out on the water without the hassle/time/effort to prep the boat that it takes me now. I like to keep a clean rig, and sometimes when you spend more time cleaning/prepping than on the water something is wrong. I think that If I had a garageable rig ready to go I would get more use of it.
The price range of $15--$20k seems realistic for a motivated seller. But you are correct that the investment of boat, repower, trailer, etc. don't ever approach what you can get when you sell--such is the nature of older hulls with repower.
I appreciate the responses--thank you.
mgeiger posted 10-15-2009 07:47 PM ET (US)
This is one of my favorite Whaler designs. Beautiful example of one here. I've been tempted to move up from my Montauk and even posted here a while back looking for this exact model with newer power. However I have seen more than a few stories of guys who gave up their 17s and regretted it. Jeff is right - the garage factor, and ability to keep it clean and covered, the ability to go out there anytime and tinker - or just drink a beer and look at it - is just a great advantage. Just not sure it's worth giving up a rig you're accustomed to, have money invested in, and that's in such great condition.
WT posted 10-15-2009 08:58 PM ET (US)
jmarlo's boat is actually cleaner in person than it looks in the pictures. Here's a close up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/warrent/2007%20Rendezvous/ DSC_6229.jpg
Good luck with the sale,
Warren
Bulldog posted 10-17-2009 11:38 AM ET (US)
Tough choice, I went from a 24' Sea Ray Laguana cuddy to a 17' Whaler Newport, I loved the smaller boat, but fishing, family,and ride were not served as well. We realized family wanted a porta-pottie and better ride, moving back up a bit to a 20' Reveneg W/T was great, much better ride, not a huge boat. We have hauled eight people around the Statue of Liberty, tried to kill ourselves in the Chesapeake in rough weather, and fished with her. I do not miss the Newport. You might want to explore a 17'or 18' Outrage, better ride and not too small, those girls are getting bigger everyday!.......Jack
tom wright posted 10-17-2009 11:56 PM ET (US)
17 striper 90 hp yamaha. porterville california. let me know if any intrest. tnx, tom

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Author	Topic: Another what's it worth--22 Revenge with Yamaha 225 Four Stroke
jmarlo	posted 10-14-2009 08:49 PM ET (US) I've been watching the market somewhat, and am at a loss as to what I might be able to get if I end up deciding to sell my 1981 22 Revenge. Tentative plans are to sell down to a Montauk that I can keep in garage. I'd say my boat is in very clean, turnkey condition. 2004 Motor is in excellent condition with approx 225 hours, stainless prop. Trailer just been serviced with 4 new tires August. Will do 45mph easily. No bottom paint, excellent Mills canvas, custom bow pulpit, stern seat, porta potti, lots of TLC. I realize that this is the worse time to sell boat, given economy, time of year, etc. But its a good exercise to see what I may be able to sell for. Let me know. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/jmarlo/IMG_0004.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/jmarlo/SEAT3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/jmarlo/IMG_0005.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/jmarlo/deckids.jpg
WT	posted 10-15-2009 02:32 AM ET (US) Here are a few more pictures. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/warrent/2007%20Rendezvous/ DSC_6131.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/warrent/2007%20Rendezvous/ DSC_6124.jpg http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v665/warrent/ 2007%20Rendezvous%20Movies/?action=view¤t=DSCN0137.flv
deweede	posted 10-15-2009 09:11 AM ET (US) This is exactly the boat I am looking for. If you decide to sell, and are on the east coast, please advise. Cordially, Derek Dewees
Whaler_bob	posted 10-15-2009 09:44 AM ET (US) Wow! Beautiful rig.... After seeing your boat, do you really think you'll be happy with a Montauk? Completely different concept/ride altogether, it would be akin to going from a Montauk to a 13' Sport. I've found that the Montauk is a bit undersized for our area (Long Island Sound) for all except the best summer days.
Jeff	posted 10-15-2009 10:57 AM ET (US) It really is a tough one. The 22 Revenges never seem to be as sought after as the Outrages or Revenge Walk Throughs. Being in the middle of the west coast is a plus as west coast Whalers always bring some of the higher prices on average. Also with your location it is still with in reach for those in Seattle to Baja. What is it worth? That is a tough one. Unfortunatly with the new motor you will lose a lot of the value of the other work you put into the vessel. I could see it listing for $15,000 - $20,000 and selling for something in that range. Honestly, I would pick the price that would make you feel as though it was worth selling it and stick to it. If it sells great if not, oh well. That is how I sold my 22 Outrage. I really never thought I would sell it but the right educated buyer saw it on this site and bought it site unseen. He got a great boat and I got what I was asking. Selling my 22 Outrage and going down to my 17 Newport was really one of the best moves I made for my life today. It is a no hassel boat that is easily trailered behind any small car, burns little fuel, big enough to get the family and I on the big water, takes an hour to wash and wax and fits in my garage. Sure I still would love to have a 22 or 25 Outrage Cuddy or Revenge W/T but I know it just would not be the right boat for right now. Good luck on your sale.
jmarlo	posted 10-15-2009 11:35 AM ET (US) Warren--thanks for posting the photos, very nice of you. Jeff--Its good to see that moving down in size has actually worked for someone and they are happy with the decision. If I make a move it has to be to a garageable boat--so that I can get out on the water without the hassle/time/effort to prep the boat that it takes me now. I like to keep a clean rig, and sometimes when you spend more time cleaning/prepping than on the water something is wrong. I think that If I had a garageable rig ready to go I would get more use of it. The price range of $15--$20k seems realistic for a motivated seller. But you are correct that the investment of boat, repower, trailer, etc. don't ever approach what you can get when you sell--such is the nature of older hulls with repower. I appreciate the responses--thank you.
mgeiger	posted 10-15-2009 07:47 PM ET (US) This is one of my favorite Whaler designs. Beautiful example of one here. I've been tempted to move up from my Montauk and even posted here a while back looking for this exact model with newer power. However I have seen more than a few stories of guys who gave up their 17s and regretted it. Jeff is right - the garage factor, and ability to keep it clean and covered, the ability to go out there anytime and tinker - or just drink a beer and look at it - is just a great advantage. Just not sure it's worth giving up a rig you're accustomed to, have money invested in, and that's in such great condition.
WT	posted 10-15-2009 08:58 PM ET (US) jmarlo's boat is actually cleaner in person than it looks in the pictures. Here's a close up. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/warrent/2007%20Rendezvous/ DSC_6229.jpg Good luck with the sale, Warren
Bulldog	posted 10-17-2009 11:38 AM ET (US) Tough choice, I went from a 24' Sea Ray Laguana cuddy to a 17' Whaler Newport, I loved the smaller boat, but fishing, family,and ride were not served as well. We realized family wanted a porta-pottie and better ride, moving back up a bit to a 20' Reveneg W/T was great, much better ride, not a huge boat. We have hauled eight people around the Statue of Liberty, tried to kill ourselves in the Chesapeake in rough weather, and fished with her. I do not miss the Newport. You might want to explore a 17'or 18' Outrage, better ride and not too small, those girls are getting bigger everyday!.......Jack
tom wright	posted 10-17-2009 11:56 PM ET (US) 17 striper 90 hp yamaha. porterville california. let me know if any intrest. tnx, tom