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blade posted 10-28-2009 10:37 PM ET (US)   Profile for blade   Send Email to blade  
Any one know of any Newports for sale in the the PNW. If you have one or know of someone who is interested in selling I would love to hear about it.

Thank you,

Brian

blade posted 11-04-2009 12:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for blade  Send Email to blade     
Are these boats rare in the northwest? Seems like there alot of Montauks but not many Newports.

Brian

JMARTIN posted 11-04-2009 02:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Brian, I have seen one Newport in all my many years of boating up here in the San Juan Island area. We have lots of boats and marinas up here so yes, I would say they are pretty rare.

The Newport set up is more like a lake boat in my opinion. Have you tried looking in Eastern Washington?

John

blade posted 11-05-2009 04:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for blade  Send Email to blade     
Good Idea I'll check Eastern Wa. Do you like your Newport for the saltwater? Does it ride better than the Montauk?

Brian

JMARTIN posted 11-05-2009 05:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Brian, I have seen one on a trailer at a marina in La Conner and that was a couple of years ago. I do not own and I have not been out in one. I would assume the ride to be comparable to a Montauk, maybe a little better as it looks like it would be heavier.

Personally I like the open deck set up of the Montauk better. Being able to get to the bow and stern quickly is important to me. Having deck space for crab pots and for fishing is a priority also. I also like to stand and/or be sitting up high when behind the helm. My friend has a Montauk and it is a fine boat for most salt water use.

You can get a Montauk with rails, front seat cushions and a stern seat if seating lots of people is desired. I am curious as to what aspects of the Newport you find attractive? I just do not think there are many of them around the PNW.

John

Jeff posted 11-05-2009 05:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jeff  Send Email to Jeff     
I have had both models and currently own the 1976 Newport shown on page 66 of the cetacea section of this site.

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage66.html

I bought the Newport from Jeff Holmes back in Dec of 2007 after selling my 22 Outrage. I was really looking for another Montauk however, I had seen this boat advertised and the price was thousands less than most Montauks I had been looking at. The other major plus was it was a 100% Freshwater use boat. I figured it nothing else I would by it and flip it come spring if I decided I did not like the set up. I was never a big fan of the Newports though the bias was not based on anything but my preconceived notions of the boat. After getting the boat home and messing with it in the garage I really took a liking to it. So, I ended up spending most of the winter restoring the boat even though it was in really pretty good shape to start with. After the first summer using the boat and I have to say it really is the better of the two models for my uses right now. With just starting a family the Newport is more protected for smaller kids. Also, the lower seating in the front is great for kids and is very easy to ride up there. Riding in front of a Montauk on that tall cooler never worked for me let alone small kids. The gunwales of the Newport provide a lot of storage for all kinds of things and more than what the Montauk console provided. The Newport's large console is actually nice to pilot from and working on wiring and other things under the console is FAR better and easier than they to work in a Montauk console. Also, at 5' 10" I am easily able to stand and pilot the Newport something which was a concern of mine when I bought it. However, I mainly sit on top of the RPS much like a leaning post to pilot. Also because of the lower console railing I able to hold on and brace myself better than on a Montauk. You can see in this image even my 6'2" father can easily pilot the Newport http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30068167&l=790c82ef79& id=1001793531 . One other great thing about the lower console for me is that it will allow my son to be able to begin learning seamanship skills much earlier than if I had a Montauk's tall console. The ride of the Montauk vs. the Newport is the same. Both very capable boats and I use mine on inlakes as well as the Large open waters of Lake Huron and Lake Michigan.

The Newport however, is not as die hard of a fishing boat as the Montauk. The Montauk does offer 360 degree fishing however, with both boats I found that with two or more people they are both crowed. Even when I had the Montauk around I found that I only was fishing on it 10% - 15% of the time.

So, really which one you look for is really based on where and how you plan to use the boat. Honestly if you have a family and plan to have them out a lot look for a Newport. You can usually find them on average for less than a Montauk though the really goods will bring comparable prices. If you just plan to use the boat for fishing look for a Montauk.

Here is the Newport when I brought it home
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/76%20newport/

Here is my Newport as it sits now. Just a couple things you will see that differ from a standard Newport, I build a new PRS seat back which is all wood and not the cushion type as well as it has no rod holders nor handles. This is great for sitting a top of to pilot. Also, I removed the traditional Newport front seat backs and replaced them with Montauk rod holds and seat back cushions.
http://picasaweb.google.com/jrohlfing/1976NewportOn709

Here is the 1984 Montauk we had.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/dads%20whaler/

If you like contact me at the address in my profile and I would be happy to give you my number if you have questions about the Newport or Montauk for that matter..

Cheers,
Jeff

Tollyfamily posted 11-05-2009 06:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tollyfamily  Send Email to Tollyfamily     
A friend has one at his house on the water in Juatita. He also tows it at 22 knots behind a 44' Trojan!

Dan

DeeVee posted 11-05-2009 08:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for DeeVee  Send Email to DeeVee     
During summer months, while cruising Hood Canal waters near the Alderbrook resort, I have noted a Newport tied to the dock at the Bill and Melinda Gates residence.

That knowledge altered my opinion of the Gates' somewhat, for some reason.

Doug Vazquez

blade posted 11-06-2009 12:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for blade  Send Email to blade     
JMartin, I just like the look of the Newport. To me it looks more comfortable than the Montauk. However I have never rode in either but they both look more comfortable than my 13SS. It is certainly a unique looking vessel.

Jeff, Thanks for the photos and details of each boat. Both whalers look fantastic! My main focus will be just cruising with the family and crabbing. Fishing will be a distant focus.

Thanks for all the input guys. I appreciate it!

Brian

Einar posted 11-07-2009 11:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for Einar  Send Email to Einar     
I, too like the looks of a Newport but I found the seating too low, and with long legs, fairly uncomfortable.

The last one I saw in Seattle was at Jacobsens in Ballard having some tilt/trim work done.

Al

Tohsgib posted 11-07-2009 11:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
I have owned 2 of them, one being a Newtauk which was awesome. The Newport was more expensive than the Montauk but yet command lower resale. It was the replacement for the Katama which was very popular. The Newport must have been pretty successfull, they made it from 1974-1990.
BillVT posted 11-26-2009 09:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for BillVT  Send Email to BillVT     
Just can't let this one go by without my vote. Our Newport was in the family when the two boys were young, but the adults liked it better, too. Other PRACTICAL features incl. the front windshield, side decks w/ storage, flat-topped console and (in ours) full canvas made this a great boat for voyaging as well as day use.

We got great mileage cruising at ~3,600 RPM with the Johnson 100. Nimble and able like any Montauk, there's no problem reaching the wheel when standing, and the goofy design elements will not be noticed once you get used to the boat. The whole family talks about having another one again. Cheers, Bill

dneal33 posted 11-28-2009 10:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for dneal33  Send Email to dneal33     
I have had my 1976 Newport since 1990 and have had two Montauks during that time that I have since sold. One was a 1986 the other was a 1997.
The Newport works out better for me since Im 5' 8" on a good day and can see over the wind shield while seated.

Also I fish alot ( out of all three of the 17s) and like the 8 inch wide cap to stand on when throwing a net or trying too land a fish. (Im not very heavy ethier, 150 lbs.) and like the lower rails better on the Newport.

I crammed a 28 gallon fuel tank under the console and put the battery up towards the front and ran all the cables down under the cap and have an open deck in the back.

The only drawback is it can get a little busy if to many people are trying to move around at the same time.

When I had the Montauks I always ran with the RPS forward and set on it like a leaning post.

I have no problem standing or sitting while driving the boat. On a side note I have seen only about five pure Newports in my 25 years of owning Whalers.

Dave

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