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KCarlsen posted 03-22-2000 08:38 PM ET (US)   Profile for KCarlsen   Send Email to KCarlsen  
I purchased a new vinyl rub rail from the Classic Whaler Owners' Association for my 1969 Nauset. Excerpts from an article in a earlier news letter are as follows:

> Railings contain plasticizers for flexibility which inhibit adhesion
> After testing a variety of different contact cements, the 3M product 8008, a black, high flashpoint adhesive worked best.
> To assist the process, rough the inside of the vinyl extrusion with a rough burr, then apply one coat to the boat edge and one coat to the molding.
> Allow to dry for one hour and then apply a second coat to the boat and immediately press the molding in place.
> Work in 3 foot sections at a time.
> Care must be taken because it is black and sticks to everthing.
> Lacquer thinner works as a cleaner but use sparingly as it eats vinyl.

So here is my problem, concern and question to the group. The rub rail when installed is the shape of an L but as its sits coiled, is bent over in the shape of a tight triangle. Putting black sticky goo in the rail and then trying to open it again to install on the boat sounds like a mess, especially when it says that the stuff sticks to everything. I have a snow white hull with a new snow white rail. I don't think I have the nerve to try this procedure. If the stuff was white, it would be a different story. When I removed the old rail that was on the boat 30 years, it actually pulled some of the old gell coat off with it and the color of the original adhesive was tan. Does anybody know what type of adhesive BW used on the original rail? Has anybody had any success with any other type of adhesive? If I don't get any other suggestions, I will have to take my chances and resort to the black sticky stuff but I don't feel confortable using black adhesive on a newly painted white hull. Any experience out there??
Thanks, Kurt

jimh posted 03-25-2000 12:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I would be concerned about using an adhesive that _could_ be removed, just in case you need to take the railing off again.

In light of that, I'd avoid 3M-5200.

See for some comments on adhesives.


StevieC posted 04-07-2000 07:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for StevieC  Send Email to StevieC     
How do I get in touch wih the Classic Whaler Owners' Association? I too need a rub rail for the same boat.
KCarlsen posted 04-09-2000 01:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for KCarlsen  Send Email to KCarlsen     
Steve, I purchased 70 feet of the original style rail for a Nauset. I am not going to use it. If you are interested in purchasing it from me, contact me at, I paid $70 for it but will part with it for $50. Kurt

PS, See newsletter thread for URL address of classic whaler.

KCarlsen posted 04-09-2000 02:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for KCarlsen  Send Email to KCarlsen     
I see many older blue interior whalers with black rub rails. Are these after market or did whaler actually use black and white rub rails interchangeably. I even went so far as looking in old catalogs, pre 1970, and they also show black rub rails and white rub rails. Now I am confused. I'm leaning towards an after market black rail to get better protection but want to keep the classic look. Any thoughts?? Kurt

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