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Al Phillips posted 04-03-2000 02:13 PM ET (US)
Hi, all. Before I go out and buy a new seat for my '89 Montauk, I thought I would query the forum for a less expensive solution to my problem.
After 11 seasons of summer fun the wood in the operator's seat has finally softened, allowing the anchoring nuts to pull out-screws and all. Short of buying (or making) a new seat is there anything you would suggest I try as a repair? Although I would have to investigate further, my guess is that the wood throughout the seat if fairly soft.
If you recommend that I bite the bullet and buy a new seat, can you suggest a dealer that has a good reputation with mail order service? I live in NW New Jersey and do not have a BW dealer nearby.
Thanks,
Al

lhg posted 04-03-2000 03:14 PM ET (US)
Al: I have been through this same problem myself, and the seat is almost impossible to repair if the plywood base is bad. I have replaced two of them. I would order a new one, from the current shop that has taken over the plans & specs from Whaler.
You want it made in the Whaler "Tan Pleat" upholstery, with the black "pipeing" as trim. This is:
Dave's Custom Upholstery
2461 Cheney Highway
Titusville FL
407-267-6571
This fellow has supposedly taken over the Whaler work from the previous "Canyon Tech" who went out of business very unexpectedly.
My guess is that the cost will be about $150, and it will come with the correctly spaced screw threads already inserted, making an easy installation. I have yet to see a locally fabricated replacement seat that looked as good as the Whaler product. I'd go for it!
If you do get one, let us know your experience with this new supplier, and how much it cost. I believe they also make the replacement Igloo Cooler cushions.
Al Phillips posted 04-03-2000 06:24 PM ET (US)
Wow, that was fast. Thanks, Ihg. Yea, I figured that a repair was unlikely. Thanks for the line on the supplier. Hopefully he will deal directly with me rather than require me to go through a retailer.
Are you sure about the "Tan Pleat"? I just took a look at my seat and it is trimmed in brown not black pipeing. This being the case would I ask for Tan Pleat with brown pipeing or is their a different name for the fabric color when it is matched with brown trim?
Thanks
lhg posted 04-03-2000 09:14 PM ET (US)
Al: I believe Whaler used both the brown and black pipeing at different times. I have the same seat in my 1989 Outrage, and it happened to come with the black trim. I'm sure you can get either color. I think Dave's will sell & ship to you directly, and I doubt if it will be any more expensive than a locally fabricated seat. Keep us posted on your project. Larry
David Reid posted 04-04-2000 04:39 PM ET (US)
I purchased from Dave's last September:
2 rodholder cushions $143.00; 1 Montauk/ Outrage reversible pilot seat $222.30;
1 94 qt cooler seat $140.40; shipping $23.34.
It took about two weeks to arrive. The work is beautiful, and the seat had the pre-installed nuts for receiving the bolts... and they fit. Call them at 407-267-7028 for a quote.
Al Phillips posted 04-04-2000 10:02 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the info. I called Dave's (BTW their number is now (321) 267-7028)and left a message on their answering machine. It's good to know that I can expect quality work and good service. I'll let you know how I make out.
Al
Al Phillips posted 04-10-2000 01:07 PM ET (US)
I just spoke with Tina at Dave's. The price of the seat has not changed ($222.30 + shipping) and the correct color is Tan Pleat, as Larry said. (She asked if I had brown or black pipeing since both trims were used in '89.)
As luck would have it, they are going to be building a batch of these seats next week, so I should have mine in about two weeks.
Thanks for the help, guys.
Al

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Author	Topic: Montauk Seat Retention Screws
Al Phillips	posted 04-03-2000 02:13 PM ET (US) Hi, all. Before I go out and buy a new seat for my '89 Montauk, I thought I would query the forum for a less expensive solution to my problem. After 11 seasons of summer fun the wood in the operator's seat has finally softened, allowing the anchoring nuts to pull out-screws and all. Short of buying (or making) a new seat is there anything you would suggest I try as a repair? Although I would have to investigate further, my guess is that the wood throughout the seat if fairly soft. If you recommend that I bite the bullet and buy a new seat, can you suggest a dealer that has a good reputation with mail order service? I live in NW New Jersey and do not have a BW dealer nearby. Thanks, Al
lhg	posted 04-03-2000 03:14 PM ET (US) Al: I have been through this same problem myself, and the seat is almost impossible to repair if the plywood base is bad. I have replaced two of them. I would order a new one, from the current shop that has taken over the plans & specs from Whaler. You want it made in the Whaler "Tan Pleat" upholstery, with the black "pipeing" as trim. This is: Dave's Custom Upholstery 2461 Cheney Highway Titusville FL 407-267-6571 This fellow has supposedly taken over the Whaler work from the previous "Canyon Tech" who went out of business very unexpectedly. My guess is that the cost will be about $150, and it will come with the correctly spaced screw threads already inserted, making an easy installation. I have yet to see a locally fabricated replacement seat that looked as good as the Whaler product. I'd go for it! If you do get one, let us know your experience with this new supplier, and how much it cost. I believe they also make the replacement Igloo Cooler cushions.
Al Phillips	posted 04-03-2000 06:24 PM ET (US) Wow, that was fast. Thanks, Ihg. Yea, I figured that a repair was unlikely. Thanks for the line on the supplier. Hopefully he will deal directly with me rather than require me to go through a retailer. Are you sure about the "Tan Pleat"? I just took a look at my seat and it is trimmed in brown not black pipeing. This being the case would I ask for Tan Pleat with brown pipeing or is their a different name for the fabric color when it is matched with brown trim? Thanks
lhg	posted 04-03-2000 09:14 PM ET (US) Al: I believe Whaler used both the brown and black pipeing at different times. I have the same seat in my 1989 Outrage, and it happened to come with the black trim. I'm sure you can get either color. I think Dave's will sell & ship to you directly, and I doubt if it will be any more expensive than a locally fabricated seat. Keep us posted on your project. Larry
David Reid	posted 04-04-2000 04:39 PM ET (US) I purchased from Dave's last September: 2 rodholder cushions $143.00; 1 Montauk/ Outrage reversible pilot seat $222.30; 1 94 qt cooler seat $140.40; shipping $23.34. It took about two weeks to arrive. The work is beautiful, and the seat had the pre-installed nuts for receiving the bolts... and they fit. Call them at 407-267-7028 for a quote.
Al Phillips	posted 04-04-2000 10:02 PM ET (US) Thanks for the info. I called Dave's (BTW their number is now (321) 267-7028)and left a message on their answering machine. It's good to know that I can expect quality work and good service. I'll let you know how I make out. Al
Al Phillips	posted 04-10-2000 01:07 PM ET (US) I just spoke with Tina at Dave's. The price of the seat has not changed ($222.30 + shipping) and the correct color is Tan Pleat, as Larry said. (She asked if I had brown or black pipeing since both trims were used in '89.) As luck would have it, they are going to be building a batch of these seats next week, so I should have mine in about two weeks. Thanks for the help, guys. Al