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Lewis posted 08-18-2000 05:58 PM ET (US)
I have a 1984 25'Outrage with twin '88 150 Yamaha engines. I love the boat, but have become interested in converting over to a full transom and adding an Armstrong bracket. My engines are currently mounted on the transom in the engine well as Whaler manufactured the boat. I want to create a full transom and add the bracket. I know how to do the job, but would be very interested to hear of any insight one may have to add. Please email me with any thoughts to mark@rivnet.net Thanks.
lhg posted 08-18-2000 07:32 PM ET (US)
Mark, I have the exact installation you are contemplating, although my '89 model was specially ordered from the factory with the full transom deck already installed. You can see a picture of the boat in Cetacea page 9, and even better photos of the full transom and bracket on page 12.
I would leave the notched transom in place, and simply install the bracket, as I don't think Whaler's special transom deck mold, with teak hatch covers, is available any longer. Be sure that the bracket is designed and mounted for twin 25" shaft engines. This is essential on all transom bracketed engine installations (Whaler Drive also used 25" twin engines). Otherwise you'll bury the engines. I assume this will mean adding a 5" spacer kit to your existing engines (or replacing them), since the notched transom design used twin 20" engines, now seldom done in V-6 twin installations.
The Armstrong bracket is a superior piece of equipment. Order it with a 26" setback, and 27" engine centerline spacing, in matching hull color. It will cost about $2800. Longer cables will be required for all steering & engine controls, etc. Your existing engine splash well will have to be plugged, certain exterior fittings may have to be moved, and a bilge pump will need to be installed.
bigz posted 08-19-2000 08:09 AM ET (US)
Hi Lewis, welcome to the forum.
Do you have the Yam's with 25" shafts? If they are '88's probably are and you won't have to bother adding the extension piece!
I had a fiberglass specialist look over our 27 outboard set up a couple of weeks ago on adding a A-bracket. We came up with the idea of adding a lift out transom door with half round sections molded into the lower half of the door on either side about 3" -- to funnel the control cables etc out to the motors,in addition mounted to the transom would be two custom bent ss half round brackets which would mate with the door cut outs --- this way when the door was lifted the cabling would remain secure.
The existing motor well deck would be cut open and two large inspection hatches installed (eliminating multi 8" round inspection ports)--- --- would fabricate a grating from Starboard material mating to the slope of the well which would be removable for access to the bilge and gas tank areas hatches ---
If $$$$ permit would add hydraulic jack plates to the A-bracket, that could be done later ---
This maybe all wishful thinking on our part --- the estimated cost including the A-bracket was just over $5000 --- Tom

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Author	Topic: Adding an Armstong Backet to 25 Outrage
Lewis	posted 08-18-2000 05:58 PM ET (US) I have a 1984 25'Outrage with twin '88 150 Yamaha engines. I love the boat, but have become interested in converting over to a full transom and adding an Armstrong bracket. My engines are currently mounted on the transom in the engine well as Whaler manufactured the boat. I want to create a full transom and add the bracket. I know how to do the job, but would be very interested to hear of any insight one may have to add. Please email me with any thoughts to mark@rivnet.net Thanks.
lhg	posted 08-18-2000 07:32 PM ET (US) Mark, I have the exact installation you are contemplating, although my '89 model was specially ordered from the factory with the full transom deck already installed. You can see a picture of the boat in Cetacea page 9, and even better photos of the full transom and bracket on page 12. I would leave the notched transom in place, and simply install the bracket, as I don't think Whaler's special transom deck mold, with teak hatch covers, is available any longer. Be sure that the bracket is designed and mounted for twin 25" shaft engines. This is essential on all transom bracketed engine installations (Whaler Drive also used 25" twin engines). Otherwise you'll bury the engines. I assume this will mean adding a 5" spacer kit to your existing engines (or replacing them), since the notched transom design used twin 20" engines, now seldom done in V-6 twin installations. The Armstrong bracket is a superior piece of equipment. Order it with a 26" setback, and 27" engine centerline spacing, in matching hull color. It will cost about $2800. Longer cables will be required for all steering & engine controls, etc. Your existing engine splash well will have to be plugged, certain exterior fittings may have to be moved, and a bilge pump will need to be installed.
bigz	posted 08-19-2000 08:09 AM ET (US) Hi Lewis, welcome to the forum. Do you have the Yam's with 25" shafts? If they are '88's probably are and you won't have to bother adding the extension piece! I had a fiberglass specialist look over our 27 outboard set up a couple of weeks ago on adding a A-bracket. We came up with the idea of adding a lift out transom door with half round sections molded into the lower half of the door on either side about 3" -- to funnel the control cables etc out to the motors,in addition mounted to the transom would be two custom bent ss half round brackets which would mate with the door cut outs --- this way when the door was lifted the cabling would remain secure. The existing motor well deck would be cut open and two large inspection hatches installed (eliminating multi 8" round inspection ports)--- --- would fabricate a grating from Starboard material mating to the slope of the well which would be removable for access to the bilge and gas tank areas hatches --- If $$$$ permit would add hydraulic jack plates to the A-bracket, that could be done later --- This maybe all wishful thinking on our part --- the estimated cost including the A-bracket was just over $5000 --- Tom