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wildeone posted 08-28-2000 08:58 AM ET (US)   Profile for wildeone   Send Email to wildeone  
Anyone have any experiance with scuppers on the two outside drains of a 84 18' Outrage.
My dual batteries are back there as well as most of the cables and fuel line. Getting leary of the splash back when on the mooring or backing down. Also how about putting the plug in the middle drian of the splash well?
lhg posted 08-28-2000 06:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
I also got tired of water in the 18 Outrage splash well all the time, especially with twin 115's and two batteries back there. It also looked like good usable space going to waste.

So I bought 3 1 1/4" drain plugs (a little hard to find), plugged the drains, and installed a small 800gph bilge pump and float switch in the deepest portion, with the discharge going straight up and over the transom. Works like a charm. With my engines set back 10" on jack plates, I then got all of the engine cables out of there, dropped in some "Dri-Deck matting", and picked up a lot of space for coolers and tackle boxes, and they always stay dry.

This is a detail I could recommend to any owner of a notched transom Outrage. Only precaution to take is if you REALLY got into some heavy weather, these 3 plugs should be pulled (along with the floor sump plug) so water splashing in can be evacuated quickly.

wildeone posted 08-29-2000 11:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for wildeone  Send Email to wildeone     
Thanks for the advice, although shouldn't the bilge pump go in the collection pit in the deck? I will try the plugs though I did get 5 when I bought the boat (luckily).

Does your bilge pump placement control rain water from the deck? Or do you leave the plugs in the back pit and anchor lockers out when boat is moored?

lhg posted 08-29-2000 01:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
The bilge pump I was referring to above only handles water that spashes into the transom spash well, behind the raised bulkhead across the floor.
The floor sump can have a separate bilge pump installed. Whaler recommends that when a boat is moored, the plug be left out in the floor sump. Water will drain from bouyancy.
Or you can leave the plug in, and rely on the floor sump bilge pump (if you have one), if you're not concerned about running down the battery.
djmerrill posted 08-31-2000 09:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for djmerrill  Send Email to djmerrill     
I'm not sure what the scupper configuration is on the 18, but I made an upgrade to my 17 Outrage that has got to be the best bang for the buck I've done. I like leaving the deck scupper drain plugs out so that the boat is self draining at the dock. However, with the battery in back the boat sits with the scuppers just above the waterline. Add a few people in it, especially in the stern, and you have a wet deck VERY quickly. The Plugs were kind of a pain to access. Last year I settled on leaving the plugs out during the week (when I'd use the boat maybe once) and plugging it for the weekend.

After observing a friends Outrage 17, I saw it was equipped with plastic thru-hull scuppers, all with flaps on them. I ended up purchasing 2 attwood scupper flap kits at west marine for about $5 each. The installation instructions indicate that a second nylon spacer is required for direct mounting on the transom (the kit is designed to go on the end of the large plastic thru hull fitting). West didn't sell this spacer, so I called information and got Attwoods number in Michigan, and a friendly woman in customer service sent me two spacers for free. The scupper flaps screwed on over the bronze thru hull.

Now I leave the plugs out all of the time. I stand in the back, and get almost no seepage, while water drains right out. I get a fair amount of pine needles and other tree debris in the boat, and these will get stuck in the flaps as they exit, which breaks the seal and lets water into the boat slowly if I'm in it. A quick swipe with a finger usually restores the water tightness of the seal. $10, 20 minute installation, great project!

Doug

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