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sospira posted 08-31-2000 03:17 PM ET (US)
The manual for a 1986 describes a foward bilge pump though its location is not exactly specified. This of course is in addition to the cabin bilge pump
triblet posted 08-31-2000 10:10 PM ET (US)
On what model?
sospira posted 09-05-2000 10:17 AM ET (US)
Thanks for reply. Dolt that I am-it's a 27ft FC 1986. Thanks
bigz posted 09-05-2000 01:10 PM ET (US)
I think someone was smoking funny cigs when they wrote that --- heh heh
There is as far as I know (BW has a knack to make a liar out of me on occasion) is the cabin (forward bilge) which also has the winter lay up through hull drain, that's as far forward as you can go. This should be at the bottom of the companion way stairs under a teak cover. If there is another forward of that one --- I have never uncovered it and don't have a switch for it!!!!
Tom
sospira posted 09-06-2000 11:05 AM ET (US)
Thanks all for replies. After much bilge work I found the foward bilge pump on my FC 27. It is below the center hatch in the helm area. It had been disconnected for ? reason. If there is any info on the wiring plan would appreciate.
bigz posted 09-07-2000 06:03 AM ET (US)
There is a center deck sole hatch between the helm seats is this where you found it? Then is there also one at the bottom of the companion way stairs in the cabin sole in addition?
On wiring the forward pump(s) had auto floats --- but they also were switched at the dash --- the stern bilge is a direct battery connect with an auto float -- no switch --- guess BW decided the forward pump(s) didn't need to be direct wired if they weren't needed all the time --- which would certainly for the most part be the case! Why drain the batteries unnecessarily for the few inches of water those sumps might accumulate --- we leave ours off --- just switch on when we start out and when we come in for a minute or two never have had an major accumulation of water forward --- even after running in pretty rough conditions and the amount of rain water has never been a problem while docked ---
Need to get a forum section on the 27's I think --- Tom
sospira posted 09-07-2000 03:00 PM ET (US)
Thanks for reply. I could not find a switch for the fwd pump while on my model there is one for the aft pump. It appears your suggestion is for a switch driven operation or you already have a factory installed one. Could you amplify? Thanks again
bigz posted 09-07-2000 03:29 PM ET (US)
If as you mention, have a cabin bilge pump (or is it the shower sump pump!) and then one between the helm seats these two could be dash switched -- the one you don't want to be switched is the stern bilge pump (if you want to keep the switch it should be left on)--- the forward pumps can be left off and turned on when you feel they're needed.
Our forwards are factory dash switched and we leave off even though they have an auto float switch but the stern (which was factory switched,we eliminated it) is wired direct to the battery it also has an auto float switch. This way we don't worry when we leave the boat if we remembered to turn on the stern bilge that is where your going to accumulate water --- I hope this makes sense "sospira"
Tom
sospira posted 09-08-2000 01:31 PM ET (US)
Thanks Tom. I'd like to report that the foward bilge is relatively dry. Unfortunately I'm getting water from somewhere. You have been very helpful
bigz posted 09-08-2000 02:22 PM ET (US)
Not sure how helpful -- chuckle ---
Check and see if the salt water wash down intake seacock is leaking -- if not check the two through hull winter storage drain plugs --- one is in the forward bilge and one is in the stern bilge --- also make sure the fish box plugs are in tight --- that's all the below water fittings I am aware of on the 27 --- if those are ok then please explain a bit more where your getting water --- Tom

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Author	Topic: foward bilge pump
sospira	posted 08-31-2000 03:17 PM ET (US) The manual for a 1986 describes a foward bilge pump though its location is not exactly specified. This of course is in addition to the cabin bilge pump
triblet	posted 08-31-2000 10:10 PM ET (US) On what model?
sospira	posted 09-05-2000 10:17 AM ET (US) Thanks for reply. Dolt that I am-it's a 27ft FC 1986. Thanks
bigz	posted 09-05-2000 01:10 PM ET (US) I think someone was smoking funny cigs when they wrote that --- heh heh There is as far as I know (BW has a knack to make a liar out of me on occasion) is the cabin (forward bilge) which also has the winter lay up through hull drain, that's as far forward as you can go. This should be at the bottom of the companion way stairs under a teak cover. If there is another forward of that one --- I have never uncovered it and don't have a switch for it!!!! Tom
sospira	posted 09-06-2000 11:05 AM ET (US) Thanks all for replies. After much bilge work I found the foward bilge pump on my FC 27. It is below the center hatch in the helm area. It had been disconnected for ? reason. If there is any info on the wiring plan would appreciate.
bigz	posted 09-07-2000 06:03 AM ET (US) There is a center deck sole hatch between the helm seats is this where you found it? Then is there also one at the bottom of the companion way stairs in the cabin sole in addition? On wiring the forward pump(s) had auto floats --- but they also were switched at the dash --- the stern bilge is a direct battery connect with an auto float -- no switch --- guess BW decided the forward pump(s) didn't need to be direct wired if they weren't needed all the time --- which would certainly for the most part be the case! Why drain the batteries unnecessarily for the few inches of water those sumps might accumulate --- we leave ours off --- just switch on when we start out and when we come in for a minute or two never have had an major accumulation of water forward --- even after running in pretty rough conditions and the amount of rain water has never been a problem while docked --- Need to get a forum section on the 27's I think --- Tom
sospira	posted 09-07-2000 03:00 PM ET (US) Thanks for reply. I could not find a switch for the fwd pump while on my model there is one for the aft pump. It appears your suggestion is for a switch driven operation or you already have a factory installed one. Could you amplify? Thanks again
bigz	posted 09-07-2000 03:29 PM ET (US) If as you mention, have a cabin bilge pump (or is it the shower sump pump!) and then one between the helm seats these two could be dash switched -- the one you don't want to be switched is the stern bilge pump (if you want to keep the switch it should be left on)--- the forward pumps can be left off and turned on when you feel they're needed. Our forwards are factory dash switched and we leave off even though they have an auto float switch but the stern (which was factory switched,we eliminated it) is wired direct to the battery it also has an auto float switch. This way we don't worry when we leave the boat if we remembered to turn on the stern bilge that is where your going to accumulate water --- I hope this makes sense "sospira" Tom
sospira	posted 09-08-2000 01:31 PM ET (US) Thanks Tom. I'd like to report that the foward bilge is relatively dry. Unfortunately I'm getting water from somewhere. You have been very helpful
bigz	posted 09-08-2000 02:22 PM ET (US) Not sure how helpful -- chuckle --- Check and see if the salt water wash down intake seacock is leaking -- if not check the two through hull winter storage drain plugs --- one is in the forward bilge and one is in the stern bilge --- also make sure the fish box plugs are in tight --- that's all the below water fittings I am aware of on the 27 --- if those are ok then please explain a bit more where your getting water --- Tom