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dhueske posted 09-05-2000 09:11 PM ET (US)
I was wondering if mounting the fuel tank forward of the consol was a bad idea. I'm planning on having a new console made, but make the forward seat high enough to mount the tank under and perhaps hinged for access. This would free up space in the console for the battery. I don't have the RPS to store the tank under and I'm getting a leaning post with a cooler underneath it. Is this a stupid idea? I read that somebody else did this and the tank ruptured in heavy seas. I guess the rougher ride forward could agitate bubbles into the fuel but I don't even know if that is a problem. I live in Charleston SC and would experience some rough seas sooner or later. I would appreciate any thoughts before I commission this to be built. Thanks
bigz posted 09-06-2000 05:44 AM ET (US)
dhueske,
Give a hint on what Whaler you have!!
Tom
dhueske posted 09-06-2000 05:38 PM ET (US)
Sorry, it's a 70 Nauset.
lhg posted 09-06-2000 08:48 PM ET (US)
I believe putting a gas tank forward of the console on any 16/17' Whaler is a bad idea.
In the 16's, the floor is rounded up there, which would make it difficult. Stay with the designer's original idea and keep the fuel under the mahogany console, and the battery in the starboard stern, where there is wood blocking in the floor for the battery box strap. If you are having a duplicate original mahogany console made, have the lower portion made 2" higher, so you can install the newer Tempo 13gal tanks underneath. The ones that fit the original lower console are no longer made. I would then have the front seat installed 2" higher also. The original was a little low!
dhueske posted 09-06-2000 09:55 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the input! I think that front seat is way too low as well. When you said the consol could be made to hold the new Tempo 13 Gal tanks, did you mean it could hold two? That would be nice since I wanted something with the capacity of the underseat 27 gal size. I'm having a tough time configuring this boat since I don't have any actual examples to draw from. I've only seen the console in photos and I'm trying to figure it out. Thanks for the help.
lhg posted 09-06-2000 11:31 PM ET (US)
Yes, the original mahogany console design will accomodate two of the 12 gallon tanks, one on each side of the floor opening for the control cables. Even though the newly designed Tempo 13 gallon tanks (Model PBW-12 Ultra - $40 at Bass Pro) won't fit (height wise - about 1 1/2 inches too high), they make sense, since if you're pre-mixing the oil, at 50 to 1 the 12 1/2 gallons of gas take 1 qt of oil, for a total of 12 3/4 gallons. A perfect match. They can also be used under the Montauk seat, and make sense over the single 28 gallon tank if you have to lift the tanks out for filling (about 80 lbs filled).
pcjohnson posted 11-02-2000 09:59 AM ET (US)
I also have a 70 nauset and am interested in increasing tankage but am concerned as well about the integrety of my existing old tempo 13 gal under-consol tanks. The 28gal tempo would fit under to drivers seat with the cap protruding out the back. How would you route the fuel line? Whaler rep suggested cutting a hole into the deck channel.

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Author	Topic: Mounting gas tank forward of console?
dhueske	posted 09-05-2000 09:11 PM ET (US) I was wondering if mounting the fuel tank forward of the consol was a bad idea. I'm planning on having a new console made, but make the forward seat high enough to mount the tank under and perhaps hinged for access. This would free up space in the console for the battery. I don't have the RPS to store the tank under and I'm getting a leaning post with a cooler underneath it. Is this a stupid idea? I read that somebody else did this and the tank ruptured in heavy seas. I guess the rougher ride forward could agitate bubbles into the fuel but I don't even know if that is a problem. I live in Charleston SC and would experience some rough seas sooner or later. I would appreciate any thoughts before I commission this to be built. Thanks
bigz	posted 09-06-2000 05:44 AM ET (US) dhueske, Give a hint on what Whaler you have!! Tom
dhueske	posted 09-06-2000 05:38 PM ET (US) Sorry, it's a 70 Nauset.
lhg	posted 09-06-2000 08:48 PM ET (US) I believe putting a gas tank forward of the console on any 16/17' Whaler is a bad idea. In the 16's, the floor is rounded up there, which would make it difficult. Stay with the designer's original idea and keep the fuel under the mahogany console, and the battery in the starboard stern, where there is wood blocking in the floor for the battery box strap. If you are having a duplicate original mahogany console made, have the lower portion made 2" higher, so you can install the newer Tempo 13gal tanks underneath. The ones that fit the original lower console are no longer made. I would then have the front seat installed 2" higher also. The original was a little low!
dhueske	posted 09-06-2000 09:55 PM ET (US) Thanks for the input! I think that front seat is way too low as well. When you said the consol could be made to hold the new Tempo 13 Gal tanks, did you mean it could hold two? That would be nice since I wanted something with the capacity of the underseat 27 gal size. I'm having a tough time configuring this boat since I don't have any actual examples to draw from. I've only seen the console in photos and I'm trying to figure it out. Thanks for the help.
lhg	posted 09-06-2000 11:31 PM ET (US) Yes, the original mahogany console design will accomodate two of the 12 gallon tanks, one on each side of the floor opening for the control cables. Even though the newly designed Tempo 13 gallon tanks (Model PBW-12 Ultra - $40 at Bass Pro) won't fit (height wise - about 1 1/2 inches too high), they make sense, since if you're pre-mixing the oil, at 50 to 1 the 12 1/2 gallons of gas take 1 qt of oil, for a total of 12 3/4 gallons. A perfect match. They can also be used under the Montauk seat, and make sense over the single 28 gallon tank if you have to lift the tanks out for filling (about 80 lbs filled).
pcjohnson	posted 11-02-2000 09:59 AM ET (US) I also have a 70 nauset and am interested in increasing tankage but am concerned as well about the integrety of my existing old tempo 13 gal under-consol tanks. The 28gal tempo would fit under to drivers seat with the cap protruding out the back. How would you route the fuel line? Whaler rep suggested cutting a hole into the deck channel.