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eric_from_MD posted 11-02-2000 02:56 PM ET (US)   Profile for eric_from_MD   Send Email to eric_from_MD  
Guys- I have opened the belly of my guardian and all looks pretty good. There are a few places in the removable floor panel that holes have been drilled to run extra
cables and mounts (sirens, etc.). I am thinking of drilling the holes out a little larger to remove any bad wood and plugging these holes with epoxy. Is this the thing to
do? What about UV? Will I have to paint for protection? How about in the hull , some of the screws (for the floor) don't seem to have any thing to bite into. Could I
drill these holes out a bit and fill with epoxy as well, or just shoot some epoxy in the existing holes with some sort of suringe(sp). I assume the screws would be going
into wood right? I remember reading that the epoxy my eat foam. I have NEVER used the epoxy that I hear so much about. What would you mix as a
thickner if any? And what temps can I work in. Do I have to wait until spring. Am I in over my head? I don't think so but ignorance is bliss as they say. Thanks for
the input. Eric
kingfish posted 11-02-2000 04:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     

Lotsa questions - some of the specifics have been pretty thoroughly discussed in earlier threads here; you'd need to expand the threads to find them - especially discussions about screw holes, etc.

I'll make one strong recommendation to you here, though - go to and spend some time - there's a treasure trove of knowledge there about working with epoxies, thickeners, patching, gelcoat,etc. At about the same time I would recommend you go to Boat US or West Marine and order one of West System's Maxi Repair Packs ($20.00) and their User Manual and Product Guide (free), and start dinking around on small stuff to get the feel of how to work with these things. Additionally, Spectrum Color sells directly from their website or through West Marine, patch paste gelcoat kits that are factory color-matched for various Whalers, and for another $20.00 for one of those kits, you can start learning how to make screw holes, dings, scratches, etc. disappear. Doesn't work exactly right the first time?...sand or grind it back out and do it again!

You can do it, and by Spring you'll be a pro-

Good luck-

dfmcintyre posted 11-02-2000 07:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
Eric -

To add some to Kingfish's excellent post, there are a number of publications that West System puts out, all of them good reading. If you've after repair that the color is faded and are concerned about color match with something from Spectrum Color, another alternative is take the boat to a _good_ automotive paint seller/retailer and see if they can computer shoot the boat and match the color. I did this with mine and cannot see where the old paint and new starts.

Best - Don McIntyre

eric_from_MD posted 11-02-2000 10:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for eric_from_MD  Send Email to eric_from_MD     
Thanks guys- I have read the west's,, and jim's info on epoxy and the techniques. The colder weather coming in is making me nervous. I am/was hoping to be in the water by spring. Man I wish I could work on this full time, I really enjoy this stuff. Thanks again, Eric
jimh posted 11-03-2000 01:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Styrenes are the enemy of foam. Epoxy will generally not harm foam. You might want to listen to the interview with Jim Watson on the WHALER-RADIO segment of the website for some more info on making repairs with epoxy.


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