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dburton posted 11-29-2000 05:06 PM ET (US)   Profile for dburton   Send Email to dburton  
There have been a few mentions in the forum regarding sleeping platforms on Outrages. I have a 1986 18' Outrage. Can someone describe in detail the construction of one? Where does it go while underway? What about access to the anchor locker? What are the dimensions? Etc, etc.


Peter posted 11-29-2000 09:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
I have slept under the spray dodger in my '87 18 Outrage a number of times. What I usually do is move the cooler seat to the stern and put two of the square throwable PFDs in the space between the console and the step up to the bow locker to make the surface about the same height as the bow locker area. I usually have two of these PFDs on board all the time anyhow so its just a matter of moving things around. Then I put down a Thermarest camp mattress which can be rolled up and stored in the console when not in use. Works great, no permanent construction necessary and the only additional items needed on board for a simple overnighter can be stored easily.
hauptjm posted 11-30-2000 11:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
I believe lhg has created what your asking. Check out the rendezvous section of this site. I am not sure if he did it for his 25 and the 18.
lhg posted 11-30-2000 01:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
As JimH noted in the Rendezvous Page 2 article, I have designed and built a drop-in teak deck to level out the 4" locker step in the bow area of the 18 Outrage. (Actually, I can't take credit for this idea, as Fisher offered this option in the very first 16' Sakonnet back in 1961, and then again in the first 21 outrage in 1971, also made of teak) This allows comfortable overnighting and long distance cruising for two in the boat, which I have done, using the Mills complete canvas system. A velcro on-off lightweight drop curtain, attached to the rear edge of the forward shelter, provides complete privacy and adds warmth if it's cool.
As mentioned, the front cooler seat is lifted out and set in the stern, or on an adjacent dock.

As a less costly, or time consuming alternative to building a deck, I have recently noticed that a couple of the Igloo brand cooler seat cushions might also work for leveling out the bow area. They make them in fairly large sizes.

I can't say enough about the comfort of the 2 1/2" thick Therm-a-rest air/foam matresses.
They make a double wide model, or two singles can be hooked together with their strap kit, making a standard sized double bed. Fitted with sheets, a down comforter and pillows, and you're ready for the evening.

Most people don't realize than any of the Classic Outrages, equipped with the Mills canvas system, can function this way. Another great capability of these well designed, and very flexible, boats.

David Reid posted 11-30-2000 07:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Reid  Send Email to David Reid     
Ihg, any chance you have a diagram or plan from your platform for the 18'? I've been noodling construction from teak for several months since seeing your pretty rig in the Rondevous pics. It would be perfect right about now for overnighting on sight for hunting, then just hopping into the canoe for a short ride to the duck blind in the morning. Would sure beat the current early a.m. rise for the hour car and 30 minute boat ride to some of our favorite spots.
jimh posted 12-01-2000 04:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
This photograph shows lhg's craftmanship:

However, as I discovered when I slept aboard Tom Birdsey's Outrage 18, if you're tired enough, you'll have no problem getting a good night's sleep in the bow of an 18 with just a couple of cushions to level it out. It helps if you've been boating all day and maybe had a few Labatt's, too.

But Larry's bow platform is a much more elegant solution, and when crafted in fine teak, it also dresses up the boat.


hauptjm posted 12-01-2000 10:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
I agree, the teak platform looks great. Larry, I 'm curious though; how do you anchor it down when under way? Also, do you normally just leave it in place when you're day-tripping? Or, do you use it only when an overnighter is anticpated? Ditto, on the plans, if you still have them (I assume it's your own design). I would think they could be a great addition to the site. In fact, maybe we could build a library of mods that owners have used over the years to dress up or improve the functionality of these vessels.
lhg posted 12-01-2000 02:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Jim & David: My 18 came with the Whaler mahogany front cooler cleats, so I simply use two 3" screws into each cleat to hold the deck in place. Totally solid, no squeaks or rattles. The deck lifts in and out quite easily (weighs about 30 lbs), and is one piece. When the deck is out, the cooler goes back in. I also have bungees attached to the deck, so the cooler will sit on top of the deck also, with a couple of carpet pads underneath to protect the wood. I'll check the drawings I made, this weekend, and see if they are in a form someone else could understand. The deck is U-shaped, and wraps around the console. The support cross beams (5/4 nominal teak) actually sit directly on the boat floor, and the deck boards (1" nominal teak) are then screwed and pegged to the supports.

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