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Outrage 25 Repair
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posted 01-22-2001 04:45 PM ET (US)
I just bought a 1980 Outrage 25, according to the Broker, the first one they ever built.
It has some serious gel coat problems in the bow, and needs other cosmetic work. I do not think there is a delamination problem, but am not sure.
A couple of questions:
1) does any one know if parts are availible for this boat? I would esp be interested in the forward floor boards, where the console mounts, as it is a little spongy.
2) Was this model capable of having a head? It would make my wife very happy! The hull under the deck apears to molded just like the cuddy, with a deck board over it.
3) Are replacment gas tanks avail, via BW or aftermarket? Mine is the original alum, and I understand this is not very desirable from a saftey consideration.
4)Where did Larry (of "whale Lure" fame) get his radar arch made? I would love to order one like it.
5) does anyone have documentation about this model boat: thru hulls, electrical, bilge pumps, etc...).
I'd really like to bring this boat back from the dead, but need some guidance/help.
Thanks in advance,
posted 01-22-2001 05:05 PM ET (US)
Larry: you moved fast on that boat!! I check several sites almost daily and I saw that one come up; I'm looking for a 25 also, but that one wasn't quite right for me. You have come to the right place for info - suggest you spend some time in the OEM section and will find sources for many parts.
Congratulations and good luck!
posted 01-22-2001 06:35 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the reply. I'll check through the OEM section.
posted 01-22-2001 08:07 PM ET (US)
Larry, since you directed part of your query to me, I'll try to give some info. My guess is that the spider cracking in the bow is going to require a spray-on gelcoat job. If you dig DEEP into the forum, you will be able to find a lot of discussion on this difficult job.
1. Whaler manufactured parts for this boat, such as some of the fiberglass & console components, may be hard to replace. As you may have read here, the Commercial Products Division would be your best source, but they are temporarily shut down for re-location. I'd call anyway and see what you can find out. A good LONG STANDING local Dealer (not the new Sea Ray variety) could also be a big help in finding what you need. Sometimes they have a lot of left over parts lying around. They can be a big help to you. The floor covers you need may still be available from them. These are made with 1/2" marine plywood backing, which is then roughed over with resin on the underside. You may also be able to restore these if the glass surface components are still good. I doubt if any of the teak components are available from the factory.
2. To the best of my knowledge, none of the models ever had a marine head. A porta potti will have to do.
3. The first 25's had dual 70 gal tanks. This was quickly replaced with a single 140.
4. My radar arch was made in 1991 by a firm in Jacksonville, whom Whaler referred me to.
5. I have a lot of the info you need. I'll send you an e-mail. I pretty much know who the original manufacturer was of all the non-whaler items incorporated into the boat.
Good luck with what sounds like a BIG project!
posted 01-23-2001 05:46 PM ET (US)
Refinishing info sent to me by boston whaler rep:
*Any structural defects would have to be properly repaired before attempting to re-gelcoat.
For crazing, the easiest method for refinishing would involve prepping the original gelcoat first. I’d use 50-grit sandpaper to scuff up the finish and knock down any high spots or blend in any imperfections.
*A surfacing agent or Wax should be added to the gelcoat when ordered. This is very important…without the wax the surface will remain sticky after curing…
After the gelcoat is cured the surface will have to be sanded with several different grits before it can be buffed with an electric buffer and a good paste compound (made for gelcoat).
If considering a polyurethane paint such as Awlgrip or Imron, use the same preparation to fill the imperfections. Then follow the manufacturer’s instructions for preparation. I believe a specific primer should be used in each case.
Interlux Paints can be found at (www.yachtpaint.com)
posted 01-23-2001 05:47 PM ET (US)
Vendor contact list sent to me by bw rep:
Older & Newer Canvas
Older Rails, W/Shields, Teak Pulpits, Swim Platforms, Custom Aluminum work, (contacts for mahogany replacement)
East Coast: West Coast:
posted 01-23-2001 07:57 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the informative posts, Larry. The only thing I would add to the gelcoat finishing process is to not stop the wet sanding with #600. I also go to #1000 and #1500 before switching to the compound. I have found this makes the polishing much quicker and makes the repair job undetectable.
posted 01-26-2001 05:22 PM ET (US)
Bought the West System Gelcoat repair guide. Very good information here.
When/if voids are found when checking the hull with the recommended rubber mallet, what is the correct repair procedure? spray in foam? microballons in epoxy? Will certian resins react with (degrade) the foam used in the hull?
Soooo many questions..
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