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posted 02-28-2001 04:28 PM ET (US)
I have a 98 Montauk which has the fiberglass
anchor locker door which opens sideways and frankly with a bow cushion it's a pain to hold open and look for things.
Can I move the hinges up under the bow norman pin so that the door opens straight up towards the bow when I'm sitting on the cooler.
I had an 1986 15' SS and this was the way
Thks for all your help,
posted 02-28-2001 11:39 PM ET (US)
I have an '84 Montauk with a teak cover on the anchor locker. My cover opens toward the bow. Strangely, I've been trying to figure out how I can alter my cover to open to the side! My thinking is, since I stow the anchor in the forward locker and deploy it over the bow, it would be much more convenient to have the cover open to the side. Currently, I have to remove anchor, chain and line completely out of the locker and close the cover to use it. When hauling it in I have to drop the rode on the deck and om the closed teak cover followed by the chain and anchor(often covered with muck). It seems to me that having the cover open to the side might be more advantageous. When raising the anchor everything can go directly into the locker.
Unfortunately, this still doesn't solve the problem of having to take all the gear out of the locker when lowering the anchor.
Otherwise the cover can't close completely.
I'd be interested in any solutions to this problem.
posted 03-01-2001 12:35 AM ET (US)
Funny...I also have an '84 and think the same as Hank. I have to pull everything out, make sure the lid shuts in the little cutout I made so the rope won't jam in the lid, then work on untangling everything before throwing it over the side. Then again I have to the anchor up and spend a little more time making sure it's clean otherwise you bring all the stuff from the bottom onto the lid. I thought of hinging it on the side like your new one but, having never looked at them closely, I didn't realize they don't stay open by themselves on the side hinge. If that's the case, I don't know which way I'd prefer. I'm still looking for a pickle barrel to store the anchor, rope and chain as Triblet has shown (either on his web page or in Cetacea somewhere). Really clever. One thing I did for the anchor, by the way, was to force heavy rubber hoses on the ends of the 'stabilizing' bar of the Danforth-style anchor as far as I could then cut leaving about a half inch or so. At least there are 2 less things that can chip the gelcoat or poke your feet.
posted 03-01-2001 12:44 AM ET (US)
Fred...I didn't read yours carefully. You do have a cushion on the bow area. I see how that would create problems trying to open up sideways. If you weren't going to use an anchor that much changing hinge locations might be a good option. Otherwise, I don't know what I'd do. Good luck.
posted 03-01-2001 09:41 AM ET (US)
There probably isn't backing material
behind the fibreglas at the front of a '98
Montauk. Check your wood diagram, but I
have a '98, and don't remember there being
any wood there. So you would have to put
a hockey puck of epoxy behind, and there
may not be foam to contain the epoxy (that's
the highest point when they foam the hull,
and if there's a void anywhere, it's there.).
I'm glad mine opens to the side. When I saw
posted 03-01-2001 11:23 AM ET (US)
The bow cushion makes all the difference when opening, if it weren't for that then
posted 03-01-2001 09:22 PM ET (US)
Slightly off the original topic, but does anyone know of a mounting kit that will hold an anchor in place in the anchor locker? It would be great if there was some way to keep it from bouncing, scratching and generally making a mess. Or, has anyone rigged up something that would serve the same purpose?
posted 03-01-2001 09:40 PM ET (US)
for my solution to stowing the anchor.
posted 03-02-2001 09:06 AM ET (US)
I am currently working on a 15 skiff, I plan on coating the anchor locker with the same stuff they now brush or spray in pickup beds. I am not concerned about appearence inside the locker as much as the hook denting,cracking the gel coat and allowing some water ingress. Any thoughts?
posted 03-02-2001 12:59 PM ET (US)
Hey you Nauset owners: any creative solutions to where you store your anchor?
The bow locker (if you can call it that) is so small and uniquely shaped on the orignal 16' hulls, that an anchor does not easily stow there.
I keep mine in a tupperware tub under the mahogany front seat. Any better ideas?
posted 03-03-2001 09:55 AM ET (US)
Chuck, I really like your anchor storage "bucket"...that seems like a really workable idea for low $$. I'm not sure if my anchor locker on the V16 is deep enough to do that, but I'll check it out once I get the cover off...Spring is threatening to appear here in Mich., but it will probably be a few more weeks before I believe it's real!
posted 03-03-2001 11:03 AM ET (US)
BTW, there buckets and garbage cans that
would work also, though pickle barrels are
pretty well built. A buddy of mine with a
RIB uses bucket that's round with one flat
side. Since his rib has a very short tube
across the bow, the flat side fits against
that and it's just right. I think in the
Montauk bow locker something similar would
be great but it would need to be shorter,
and his bucket wouldn't live long if you
cut the lip off. It would be just a little
more space efficient than my pickle barrel
which wastes some space between the barrel
and the side of the locker.
Moral: keep your eyes open.
posted 03-03-2001 06:52 PM ET (US)
There is a Canyon Products Anchor Rode Bag in the defender catalog. Says it easily handles 200' line/chain. www.defender.co The 270 page catalog is great.
posted 03-03-2001 11:23 PM ET (US)
Has anyone had experience with the brackets which store an anchor on the side rails with chain and rode connected ? I suppose with this kind of setup the chain and rode could go into a bag.
posted 03-04-2001 10:08 AM ET (US)
I thought about the rode bag, but I can't
figure out how to pull the hook with only
two hands. With the bucket, I can pull
three feet, hold with my left and dribble it
into the bucket with my right. It's slow
going and works much better if Admiral Linda
is around to stuff the bucket, but it does
work. With the bag I'd need a third hand to
posted 03-04-2001 01:10 PM ET (US)
The bracket on the rail is excellent, it keeps my anchor out of the way and ready
to use at a moments notice, All I do is just keep the rode and chain in the bow locker. (I also put some rubber protection
(right under the front rail so that the chain right under the anchor does not scratch the gelcoat) The bracket is from West marine and runs close to 40 bucks.
posted 03-12-2001 01:28 AM ET (US)
To find the pickle barrel Chuck uses to store his anchor and gear, stick your head inside the back door of your favorite local restaurant. If they don't have a pickle barrel, they'll probably have a mayonaise pail (the Hellman's are square, sturdy and lined with a bag so no mess to clean), salad dressing bucket, chowder tub....you get the idea. It probably won't cost you more than giving the suds guy a ride in your boat. I'm still using a variety of these containers to store tackle, carry bait, wash the boat, you name it. My only problem is figuring out which one to "retire" from it's current duty to go into service toting my anchor and rode!
posted 03-12-2001 01:31 AM ET (US)
"Still using" as in from my happy days as a seafood chef on Cape Cod (happy because the cooking was mostly at night, leaving days to chase the blues and stripers in my trusty ol' 13).
posted 03-12-2001 10:18 PM ET (US)
Would the new plastic bow anchor locker cover fit on a 1977 Montauk?...I know it probably sounds crazy, but I will be doing a lot of fly-fishing from the bow and wouldn't want to stand on a nicely varnished cover...is there a company that will make this sort of thing?
posted 03-13-2001 10:39 AM ET (US)
Tightloops: If you are at all handy with a jigsaw and a router (with a pattern forming bit) you can build one yourself out of marine starboard (available from West Marine, etc.). It would be a very simple project and the starboard has something of a non-skid type texture already.
posted 03-13-2001 06:32 PM ET (US)
For you "Blue Hull" owners, and even newer Classics, try this. I carry around a small Bruce anchor with lots of chain and the pope spooled on those extension cord carrierd sold at hardware stores.I keep 240' of 3/8" line neat and twist free. The Bruce doesn't have quite the holding power as a larger Danforth, but works and sets well except in grass. This goes in the bow locker of my Alert with a rigged sea anchor drift sock and small orange float. The bottom of the locker is lined with the rubber mat used in restaurant kitchens. Durable, cushioned, and drains. I've also seen Danforth's cut down (the rods to keep then aligned when setting) to fit the smaller lochers. Cap them with small fishing rod buttcaps to keep from scratching.
posted 03-13-2001 10:44 PM ET (US)
Hey Guys I have used my whalers pretty hard over the past 15 years. Here in south Fla. I get to use my boat all year round and often anchor several times an outing hopping from one reef to another. I haven't realy had a problem chipping the gelcoat too much. I always make a bed for the anchor with the anchor line and use coated chain. As for the bow locker covers I had a similar problem with my 15' I had a front cushion and it didn't realy matter if the cover was hinged at the front the cushion was always in the way and when it was wet it was realy heavy. My 18 outrage however doesn't have hinges it has that bungee arangement (now broken). I always open it to the side, In fact last sunday I decided to mount some hinges. Does anyone have original hinges, if so where can I get them and where exactly do they go? (into wood I hope) Thanks! and I hope everyone has a great boating season this year!
posted 03-22-2001 08:33 PM ET (US)
I contacted Finn-Addict Marine that makes starboard replacements for whaler components (I have needed a new bow locker door since I bought my bought).
Has anyone dealt with them before?
They said they can make me a new door in white, black or seafoam (off-white), for $85 plus a few bucks shipping.
I have the tan 1979 interior gelcoat and have to decide on which color to get, too (any advice?).
posted 03-23-2001 10:32 AM ET (US)
Not bad. If you need a 24" piece of marine starboard to craft that, it is up to $50 bucks at the dealers. Machining is thus about 35.
If you are good with a jigsaw and a router you could save a few bucks and do it yourself.
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