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james cosby posted 03-14-2001 06:27 PM ET (US)
I have been in contact with BW about original spec's on early 70's Outrages. I had assumed that the entire boat was originally desert tan but they advised me that in part that "On the older models (Outrage's) the color of the outer hull and the top skin (the section above the rubrail) was a very light grey (off white color)..sometimes called Outrage grey.
The interior decking was typically a very light tan called desert tan. For an exact color match I would recommend sending a sample to either Spectrum Color...1-800-754-5516 www.spectrumcolor.com or to Mini Craft of Florida...1-800-282-8244 www.minicraft.com"
.. They also advised me that my Pompanette seats behind the center console and one on the upper deck, and the Lee's rod holders on the windshield and on the gunnels are all original from the factory. They said that there were many other options available but did not say what they were. BW was very helpful with all questions I had. Hope this helps someone. Thanks JC
jimh posted 03-15-2001 12:16 AM ET (US)
Sometimes these gelcoat colors can be very subtle. I spend two days on Jim Gibson's beautiful 1990 19-Outrage before I realized the interior was a slightly darker shade of white than the hull.
It only became apparent when we tied up next to another Whaler that was all-white (1991 Walk-Around).
Orca posted 03-15-2001 04:13 AM ET (US)
J.C. I am familiar with the seat layout you have (only seen one) but the rod holders are a new revelation. Based on my fascination with our limited production hull,300 I am told,yours is rare.I have been trying to count the number on this site.By the way,when I repowered I fought to retain my orignal Morse dual controls. I'm glad I did.
james cosby posted 03-16-2001 01:47 PM ET (US)
Orca, you lucky dog, I have the original single Morse control which I will use if I replace with a single engine but the dual would be nice. They really set off the console. What guages, switches, does your Outrage have on the console?
Chesapeake posted 03-16-2001 02:24 PM ET (US)
You can still purchase the "old" style Morse control through West Marine. It is called the MT-3 and is on page 362 of the 2001 Master catalog for about $550.
BW
Chesapeake posted 03-16-2001 02:24 PM ET (US)
You can still purchase the "old" style Morse control through West Marine. It is called the MT-3 and is on page 362 of the 2001 Master catalog for about $550.
BW
Orca posted 03-17-2001 05:09 AM ET (US)
Jim, In and on is the difference. On are the Morse,the original red compass,a fuel monitering system(junk),two GPS's,two fish finders-I think that's it. In the console,meaning the face board where the wheel is mounted are two tacks with hour meters,two rocker switches for tilt,two ignition keys and a speed/distance instrument(junk). Also,the Sportpilot on the wheel. My fixed VHF is under the console with a mike (Stanard) that operates all functions of the radio. Lesson learned-I swiss chessed the board that holds the wheel with too much stuff.Being Irish,I figured this out in 3' seas holding a wheel no longer attached to the console. I have also had the entire console detach itself. Needless to say, some reinforcing has taken place with more to come. I met a guy that did the Bahamas run several times in our boat. His console let loose in the Gulf Stream in 8 footers. He lived. Just to head off any comments,I still have room to set down my soda.P.S. Did I forget the radar? (in my dreams)
dfmcintyre posted 03-17-2001 01:53 PM ET (US)
Orcas' comment about swiss-cheezing the console reminded me of a story Kingfish related to me, that I think I've mentioned in an earlier post, and that bears repeating:
When he was cutting into the "face" of his console (where the instruments are located) he noticed a considerable amount of water (probably from storing outside or just washing the console) that escaped. Thought that it could contribute to a rotted console face. I agreed.
Best way (and I know that I didn't) to install an instrument, would be to drill out the hole, coat the exposed wood with resin, like the West system. Let dry and install the instrument. Some of the better instruments come with a little rubber gasket too.
don
james cosby posted 03-17-2001 05:34 PM ET (US)
My tach's are mounted in the top of the teak console instead of the face. This works well and keeps the gauges where you can see them. In the panels on the face there are switches but no gauges. I also think that the holders on the windshield are for outriggers and not pole holders. JC
kingfish posted 03-18-2001 12:04 AM ET (US)
Yeah, Don is right-
I ruined two $300.00 fm radio/cdplayers before I accidently stumbled onto what was going on (water draining through the plywood behind the fiberglass, or between the fiberglass and plywood, through the raw plywood edge into the top of the radio). I now fastidiously coat all raw edges of any opening I cut through plywood with epoxy. Has been working like a charm!

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Author	Topic: Info on early 70's BW Outrage
james cosby	posted 03-14-2001 06:27 PM ET (US) I have been in contact with BW about original spec's on early 70's Outrages. I had assumed that the entire boat was originally desert tan but they advised me that in part that "On the older models (Outrage's) the color of the outer hull and the top skin (the section above the rubrail) was a very light grey (off white color)..sometimes called Outrage grey. The interior decking was typically a very light tan called desert tan. For an exact color match I would recommend sending a sample to either Spectrum Color...1-800-754-5516 www.spectrumcolor.com or to Mini Craft of Florida...1-800-282-8244 www.minicraft.com" .. They also advised me that my Pompanette seats behind the center console and one on the upper deck, and the Lee's rod holders on the windshield and on the gunnels are all original from the factory. They said that there were many other options available but did not say what they were. BW was very helpful with all questions I had. Hope this helps someone. Thanks JC
jimh	posted 03-15-2001 12:16 AM ET (US) Sometimes these gelcoat colors can be very subtle. I spend two days on Jim Gibson's beautiful 1990 19-Outrage before I realized the interior was a slightly darker shade of white than the hull. It only became apparent when we tied up next to another Whaler that was all-white (1991 Walk-Around).
Orca	posted 03-15-2001 04:13 AM ET (US) J.C. I am familiar with the seat layout you have (only seen one) but the rod holders are a new revelation. Based on my fascination with our limited production hull,300 I am told,yours is rare.I have been trying to count the number on this site.By the way,when I repowered I fought to retain my orignal Morse dual controls. I'm glad I did.
james cosby	posted 03-16-2001 01:47 PM ET (US) Orca, you lucky dog, I have the original single Morse control which I will use if I replace with a single engine but the dual would be nice. They really set off the console. What guages, switches, does your Outrage have on the console?
Chesapeake	posted 03-16-2001 02:24 PM ET (US) You can still purchase the "old" style Morse control through West Marine. It is called the MT-3 and is on page 362 of the 2001 Master catalog for about $550. BW
Chesapeake	posted 03-16-2001 02:24 PM ET (US) You can still purchase the "old" style Morse control through West Marine. It is called the MT-3 and is on page 362 of the 2001 Master catalog for about $550. BW
Orca	posted 03-17-2001 05:09 AM ET (US) Jim, In and on is the difference. On are the Morse,the original red compass,a fuel monitering system(junk),two GPS's,two fish finders-I think that's it. In the console,meaning the face board where the wheel is mounted are two tacks with hour meters,two rocker switches for tilt,two ignition keys and a speed/distance instrument(junk). Also,the Sportpilot on the wheel. My fixed VHF is under the console with a mike (Stanard) that operates all functions of the radio. Lesson learned-I swiss chessed the board that holds the wheel with too much stuff.Being Irish,I figured this out in 3' seas holding a wheel no longer attached to the console. I have also had the entire console detach itself. Needless to say, some reinforcing has taken place with more to come. I met a guy that did the Bahamas run several times in our boat. His console let loose in the Gulf Stream in 8 footers. He lived. Just to head off any comments,I still have room to set down my soda.P.S. Did I forget the radar? (in my dreams)
dfmcintyre	posted 03-17-2001 01:53 PM ET (US) Orcas' comment about swiss-cheezing the console reminded me of a story Kingfish related to me, that I think I've mentioned in an earlier post, and that bears repeating: When he was cutting into the "face" of his console (where the instruments are located) he noticed a considerable amount of water (probably from storing outside or just washing the console) that escaped. Thought that it could contribute to a rotted console face. I agreed. Best way (and I know that I didn't) to install an instrument, would be to drill out the hole, coat the exposed wood with resin, like the West system. Let dry and install the instrument. Some of the better instruments come with a little rubber gasket too. don
james cosby	posted 03-17-2001 05:34 PM ET (US) My tach's are mounted in the top of the teak console instead of the face. This works well and keeps the gauges where you can see them. In the panels on the face there are switches but no gauges. I also think that the holders on the windshield are for outriggers and not pole holders. JC
kingfish	posted 03-18-2001 12:04 AM ET (US) Yeah, Don is right- I ruined two $300.00 fm radio/cdplayers before I accidently stumbled onto what was going on (water draining through the plywood behind the fiberglass, or between the fiberglass and plywood, through the raw plywood edge into the top of the radio). I now fastidiously coat all raw edges of any opening I cut through plywood with epoxy. Has been working like a charm!