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tobes posted 03-20-2001 07:52 AM ET (US)
I just got my hands on my frist whaler!! 84' 22ft. Gaurdian I needed to replace rub rail so I purchesed a kit, not cheap. Kit came with two shorter pieces of track and one long piece of bead, two end caps, screws, chaulk and no directions ? I thought it was going to be two 50' rolls ? Help.
Sam Collins posted 03-20-2001 09:46 AM ET (US)
Go to the Reference section and look at Rub Rail.... Read all you can for about 2 days before you do anything.....!!!! good luck
tobes posted 03-20-2001 03:18 PM ET (US)
I have read ref. section more than I wish to remember. The problem is that I have a stripped out hull, no elec. or fuel system and no hardware to go by or refer to. So needless to say I have my work cut out for me. What kind of bow light/chock setup do I need or can I rig up a outrage setup to work. This boat is a 84' Gov. surplus Gaurdian 22 that also needs deck and console work. Bring on the WEST SYSTEM and I'm going to town.
lhg posted 03-20-2001 04:06 PM ET (US)
Be sure to check out Cetacea page 35 and see the Forum discussion on same. Sounds like a similar project. Are you ready to spend 7000 hours?
tobes posted 03-20-2001 05:43 PM ET (US)
Yeah, I'm actually shootin for the end of May for a launch date. Mine isn't in as bad shape as the Lakeville FD boat. The last owner started to do the rehab ie: hull work, bottom paint and paint inside and out with Ben Moore epoxy industrial coating then bagged the project, So I figure I'm ahead of the game. What the hell It's a whaler it'll be worth it.
DIVE 1 posted 03-20-2001 06:08 PM ET (US)
tobes,
The original rub rail was probably made by Barbour Plastics. If you have to replace the entire rub rail, you will need the 2 50' roles that you refer to in your post. One roll is the rub rail and the second roll should be the insert. The rubrail should be installed with screws spaced 4-6" apart then covered when the insert is installed. We sealed all screws on ours with 3M 101.
Most of the Guardians that I have been on had the bow lights mounted on either side of the center console. The bow cleat is a single 10" Wilcox Crittenden cleat. Look on the top center of the bow gunwale and there should be 4 drilled and tapped holes in the fiberglass to mount the cleat. Check the threads in the holes and also the aluminum backing plate that is underneath the fiberglass - If I remember correctly, ours are 5/16"-18 threads.
Jim
LUV2FISH posted 04-25-2001 03:37 PM ET (US)
Hey Tobes! I think I looked at that boat! Did Alex sell it to ya off of ebay? I almost bought it but when I got there, decided it was too much for me!! Good luck! Should be a great boat when you get done!

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Author	Topic: rub rail help ?
tobes	posted 03-20-2001 07:52 AM ET (US) I just got my hands on my frist whaler!! 84' 22ft. Gaurdian I needed to replace rub rail so I purchesed a kit, not cheap. Kit came with two shorter pieces of track and one long piece of bead, two end caps, screws, chaulk and no directions ? I thought it was going to be two 50' rolls ? Help.
Sam Collins	posted 03-20-2001 09:46 AM ET (US) Go to the Reference section and look at Rub Rail.... Read all you can for about 2 days before you do anything.....!!!! good luck
tobes	posted 03-20-2001 03:18 PM ET (US) I have read ref. section more than I wish to remember. The problem is that I have a stripped out hull, no elec. or fuel system and no hardware to go by or refer to. So needless to say I have my work cut out for me. What kind of bow light/chock setup do I need or can I rig up a outrage setup to work. This boat is a 84' Gov. surplus Gaurdian 22 that also needs deck and console work. Bring on the WEST SYSTEM and I'm going to town.
lhg	posted 03-20-2001 04:06 PM ET (US) Be sure to check out Cetacea page 35 and see the Forum discussion on same. Sounds like a similar project. Are you ready to spend 7000 hours?
tobes	posted 03-20-2001 05:43 PM ET (US) Yeah, I'm actually shootin for the end of May for a launch date. Mine isn't in as bad shape as the Lakeville FD boat. The last owner started to do the rehab ie: hull work, bottom paint and paint inside and out with Ben Moore epoxy industrial coating then bagged the project, So I figure I'm ahead of the game. What the hell It's a whaler it'll be worth it.
DIVE 1	posted 03-20-2001 06:08 PM ET (US) tobes, The original rub rail was probably made by Barbour Plastics. If you have to replace the entire rub rail, you will need the 2 50' roles that you refer to in your post. One roll is the rub rail and the second roll should be the insert. The rubrail should be installed with screws spaced 4-6" apart then covered when the insert is installed. We sealed all screws on ours with 3M 101. Most of the Guardians that I have been on had the bow lights mounted on either side of the center console. The bow cleat is a single 10" Wilcox Crittenden cleat. Look on the top center of the bow gunwale and there should be 4 drilled and tapped holes in the fiberglass to mount the cleat. Check the threads in the holes and also the aluminum backing plate that is underneath the fiberglass - If I remember correctly, ours are 5/16"-18 threads. Jim
LUV2FISH	posted 04-25-2001 03:37 PM ET (US) Hey Tobes! I think I looked at that boat! Did Alex sell it to ya off of ebay? I almost bought it but when I got there, decided it was too much for me!! Good luck! Should be a great boat when you get done!