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daverdla posted 04-30-2001 12:14 PM ET (US)   Profile for daverdla   Send Email to daverdla  
I'll be keeping my montauk in salt water for the season. Its never been painted. I really hate to do it. Does any have a diagram on how much of the hull needs to be painted?

Does anyone have any experience with a pneumatic lift on a boat as small as a montauk? Mechanical units won't work at our dock. It will probably be too costly. Neighbors at the shore have three pneumatic lifts and seem to be happy with them.

dgp posted 04-30-2001 02:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
Have you looked at the Hydrohoist brand boat lifts? www.boatlift.com
I rented one for a while when I had my Dauntless. These use air in large fiberglass pontoons that keep the boat in the air. You sink the pontoons to get your boat in the water.
The lake patrol use these to store their Whalers during the week.
daverdla posted 04-30-2001 02:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for daverdla  Send Email to daverdla     
Yes, I have already filled out their request form on the internet. I am waiting for their reply.
Dave
where2 posted 05-03-2001 02:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
You might want to check out these pictures and drop an E-mail to cwboats@aol.com The lift shown is used in saltwater/brackish water, on a coastal canal in Florida.
http://www.freenet.tlh.fl.us/~wendtm/dadslift.jpg
The boat in the pictures is a 20' Edgewater.

For my 15' Boston Whaler Sport, we built something different:
http://www.freenet.tlh.fl.us/~wendtm/dock1.jpg
http://www.freenet.tlh.fl.us/~wendtm/dock2.jpg
http://www.freenet.tlh.fl.us/~wendtm/dock3.jpg

Mark Wendt
Where2?

daverdla posted 05-19-2001 09:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for daverdla  Send Email to daverdla     
Lifts are too expensive. $5000 plus installation. My 1989 montauk has no water marks on the hull. Does any one have a diagram or datum points for the water line? I have no point of reference for the bottom paint.

I called whaler and they said they don't publish that info anymore due to the variation in water lines depending upon how people fit out their boats.

Thanks
Dave

Tom W Clark posted 05-19-2001 09:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Dave,

You may not want to here this, but Whaler is right. It all depends on how your Montauk is rigged. Here's what I think. If you're going to go to all the trouble of painting your bottom then you may as well to it well. If your waterline is precise then the paint job will look good. I have seen all too many bottom paint jobs where the paint rolls up (sometimes way up) under the bow and just makes a wonderful boat look like crap.

There are two slightly different ways to accurately mark a waterline, and both involve launching the boat.

Method one: launch the boat with full fuel tanks and your usual load of gear that will be kept on the boat when it is in the water. After launching shift whatever gear is loose so that the boat is floating on an even keel. Then mark a fixed distance above the eater with a pencil or pen or bits of masking tape. The rub here is that you really need to get in the water to do it well, especially under the bow. When I did my Montauk I donned my wet suit (it's cold here in Puget Sound) and walked into the water at the launch ramp. I used a dowel with a mark two inches from one end and then held the dowel with the mark at water level and marked the hull with a pencil at the top of the dowel. I should mention that the water needs to be very calm. ( I did it very early one summer's morning) I put a mark about every two feet or so. When got the boat home I was able to use the marks as a refernce to wrap the hull with the masking tape. (It helps to have a good eye.) The distance above the water where you make the marks doesn't matter, you can adjust by a fixed distance up or down depending on how far above the water you want to bring the bottom paint or boot stripe.

Method two: launch and level the boat as above and mark the bow stem and the transom. When you get the boat home use the tongue jack to level the boat and then use a water level to mark the waterline. This is a highly precise, though tedious, method. But it may be useful if you cannot launch the boat in really baby-butt smooth water.

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