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ffk posted 05-28-2001 09:34 PM ET (US)   Profile for ffk   Send Email to ffk  
I would appreciate anyone with knowledge of the '72 Outrage teak console to let me know how the original varnish work was completed. Was the varnish applied over the caulking, or was the caulk applied post varnish? Does anyone have experience or advise to offer? I am also attempting to figure out the most appropiate appearing VHF antenna installation location. This boat had an 8'antenna installed into the floor at the starboard forward corner, braced to the console. I think it will interfere with the flying top and definatly the forward shelter. I have read the threads regarding antenna selection etc, but really are looking for opinion regarding cosmetics. Once I can figure out the location, I will select the best product.
Thanks in advance,
Frank
jimh posted 05-28-2001 10:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I just figured out a way to mount my 8-foot antenna on my 15-Sport and still be able to raise and lower the Bimini.

I have the antenna mounted to the side railing, as far back as it will go.

I stow the antenna tilted down toward the bow.

The Bimini (which I mounted on the gunwales instead of the OEM style mounting to the cockpit bulwarks) just misses the antenna when both are up; the antenna is just behind the rear edge of the bimini.

When the Bimini is stowed, it stows just behind the antenna.

Raising the antenna: this is a bit tricky.

If the Bimini is stowed, you just raise the antenna.

It the Bimini is up, you must collapse the Bimini and lower it toward the bow. Then the antenna can be raised from its stowed position, but you have to bend it a little to get it past the frame of the Bimini.

The whole process would have been much easier if:
--I had mounted the Bimini to the bulwarks instead of the gunwales
--I had spent more money and bought the 4-foot antenna ($75) instead of the cheapo 8-foot antenna ($25).

Live and learn!

OutrageMan posted 05-29-2001 07:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for OutrageMan  Send Email to OutrageMan     
My father (bdb - harpoon harry) had one of these. I do not remember it having varnish on the center console. It was teak oiled. It may have been varnished at one time, but I doubt it.

As far as antenna mounting goes, I have seen them mounted in one of the aft corners of the boat, inside of the gunwale.

Brian

goldstem posted 05-29-2001 08:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for goldstem  Send Email to goldstem     
On my 72 outrage, I put a short whip on the
railing around the motor well.
dfmcintyre posted 05-29-2001 08:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
Frank -

From what I can recall while watching on old wood chris-craft during a renovation, the caulk is applied, then varnished over. If you look real close, the caulk is a very, very slight yellowish color, instead of pure white, due to the color in the varnish.

However, I've also read about detailing a boat, using white paint, on top of the varnish, using a narrow pinstriping brush.

Ya rolls the dice, and takes your chances.

When I started mounting antennas on my whalers, I ran into the same quandry. Ended up always mounting an 8' on the inside starboard gunwale. Used a nice plated swivel bracket. When stowed, the tip inserts, by slightly bending it, into a small 1/2 loop bracket.

Best - Don

bdb posted 05-29-2001 12:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for bdb  Send Email to bdb     
Frank,

The teak console was not varnished originally. Perhaps yours was in a previous life. If you want to varnish it, fine, Don's covered the ways above.

I oiled mine and covered everything. Then I went back and wiped the oil off of the caulk...it kept the caulk brighter, abd the oil never really dries on the caulk.

If your rig is generally covered you might want to consider giving the console a thorough cleaning followed by a thorough sanding, and leaving it natural. I'm currently doing this on my Montauk. From there on an occassional mild washing (no brush) would be all it needs. It all depends on how YOU like to see your teak.

I've been sanded, I've been varnished, and I've been well oiled...but I remain Harpoon Harry.

ffk posted 05-30-2001 10:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for ffk  Send Email to ffk     
Thanks for the input. I went over the teak with a fine tooth comb and have to agree with Harpoon Harry. There are no signs of any varnish-ever. The spots under the seat hardware that I was viewing turned out to just be real smooth, clean wood. All the wood is in fine shape aside from the few plugs missing. It will get the clean and sand treatment, no other finishing. After having a real close look at the original brochure, it bacame obvious that other boats of that vintage vere varnished, but not the Outrage pictured. Thanks for the guidance.

I will try some of the configurations mentioned regarding the antenna mounting and let you know the outcome.

Frank

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