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duckduckgoose posted 05-30-2001 11:23 AM ET (US)   Profile for duckduckgoose   Send Email to duckduckgoose  

Was wondering about this. Bennett hydrolic is where I am ay now. What does the kit run? Is it necessary? My boat seems to need them with weight always varying and the boat might benefit. Is installationa hassle? I have no practice with boat mechanicals with the exception of "arm-chair" outboard mechanic. I also see that a mumber of opinions float around as to where they should be positioned and size of the tab. What should I do?
thanks....again
DDG
jimh posted 05-30-2001 01:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I would suggest you have kingfish come over and install those Bennett tabs. He has some experience in that area. Keep an eye on him when he mixes epoxy, however...
bigz posted 05-30-2001 03:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Oh no JimH please don't suggest the Kingfish starts playing with hydraulics and oil lines etc. etc. (he used Electro Magnetic tabs no messy oil lines, no bleeding, no pump) best to call Clark Roberts in for Bennett Tabs he has plenty of experience including a near miss CG/EPA oil hazard incident under his belt --- hah hah --- :)
kingfish posted 05-30-2001 05:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
You rang?

Well, yes, I have had some experience with trim tabs, *and* epoxy - in fact, I am considering the development of an interesting and informative compendium of all the things you *don't* want to do when working with epoxy, based on first-hand knowledge!

I like Lenco electric tabs as compared to Bennetts or any other type of hydraulic units, for the reasons bigz cited and because on an Outrage 22 space is limited and I didn't have to give anything up for the space the hydraulic pump and reservoir would take. Electrics also operate quicker and with a more consistent speed, whether you are trimming one or both tabs. Larry Goltz sent me some information on another company that makes electric tabs, "Lectrotab"; everything about them sounds almost identical to what I know first-hand about the Lenco's, and they may well be an equal alternative.

I highly recommend Lenco's; they work perfectly for me. Most trim tab companies, hydraulic or electric, will recommend 18" wide by 9" tabs for a 22' boat if there is room, which there really isn't on the transom of an Outrage 22. They offer the alternative of 12"x12" tabs when width is at a premium, and that is what I ordered. Louis Kokinis has 12"w x 9"d tabs on his Guardian 22, and he told me he would probably go to 12"x12" tabs if he were going to do it again. Mine are Lenco 12"x12"E's, they taper symetrically from 12" at the transom to 10" at the trailing edge, and have about a 1" vertically turned up edge on the rear and both sides.

The challenge on an Outrage 22 is that the transom is not a structurally solid component for it's entire width, and you may find the actuator brackets come to bear on the part of the transom that is not reinforced. That is fixable, and some of my preliminary attempts to fix mine, before my final success, will be highlighted in the compendium reference above.

Go get 'em, ddg, and and let me know if I can be of any more help. (Let's see...good reasons to go to New Orleans...Galatoire's, Nola, Felix's, Commanders, French Market...don't get me started...)

Good luck-

Kingfish

duckduckgoose posted 05-31-2001 04:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for duckduckgoose  Send Email to duckduckgoose     
Thanks,
I guess I will take a better look at the electrics type offered by the co. you suggested. What is price variation between the two? I can get the bennett's for 379.00 @ West Marine. As far as the install goes I better have a pro work that end as I am not schooled in that area. What , on average would an install run me? @50$ /hr?
Galatoire's hmmmmm Funny thing is my great uncle started it. My grand father , who is 95 and still driving, came here from France to apprentice under him at 14yrs and I am 1st. generation born here. Funny I take places that that for granted being from here.
thanks,
DDG
kingfish posted 05-31-2001 08:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
ddg-

Set the menu bar in the upper right hand corner of "Repairs/Mods" to 45 days then scroll down to my post, "Trim Tabs: Hydraulic or Electric" from April 22. That has the complete saga, along with prices. I have no idea how many hours a mechanic would take to install Lenco's, but whatever it is, it would be less than hydraulics, because there is considerably less to do.

I wonder if your grandfather is one of the "pteradactyls" I've enjoyed Sunday lunch with at Galatoire's? One of my favorite restaurants in a city that has to have the highest rate of excellent and unique restaurants per capita anywhere, and we try to eat there every time we visit the quarter. Your connection with Galatoire's is amazing - what a heritage!

Keep us posted-

kingfish

duckduckgoose posted 05-31-2001 03:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for duckduckgoose  Send Email to duckduckgoose     
kingfish,
Thanks, and I will keep ya' posted
DDG
duckduckgoose posted 05-31-2001 03:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for duckduckgoose  Send Email to duckduckgoose     
Kingfish,
I tried to retreive it , but my memory will not download the entire page, "Page too big to be shown completely". Could you fwd me the post/replies
Thanks again,
DDG
kingfish posted 05-31-2001 03:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Not sure I know how to do that - I'll bring the post up to the top of the Repairs/Mods section, though...maybe that'll help?

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