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roger8918 posted 06-10-2001 08:28 PM ET (US)   Profile for roger8918   Send Email to roger8918  
I have an 86 Montauk and I am replacing the wooden floor cleats used for holding the forward cooler/seat. Could someone please tell me what these cleats were originally made of (teak, mahogany, etc) and what type of finish I should use on them. I am trying to keep the boat it as close to original as possible. Also, if anyone has any photos it would be a great help.
lhg posted 06-11-2001 06:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
They are philippine mahogany and are varnished. After stripping, sand off the beached out surfaces down to "red" mahogany colored grain. Before you revarnish, you may want to wipe on a coat of oil based mahogany stain. This will delay future yellowing, and give them a nice dark rich color. Use a spar varnish with high UV inhibitors, such as Z-Spar "flagship".

Another problem I have often found with Whaler's varnished wood details is the screw connections. Most use trim rings and they tend to "cut" the varnished surface and allow quick varnish deterioration and blackening around the screws.

For a detail such as fastening cooler cleats to the floor, I uses a trim ring under the screw head and then a same screw size fender washer under the trim ring. Unlike the sharp edge of the trim ring, the fender washer won't "cut" the varnished surface. I use this on oiled teak surfaces also.

roger8918 posted 06-11-2001 10:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for roger8918  Send Email to roger8918     
Thanks lhg, Could you recommend a good product to do the stripping? Also, where can I find Z-Spar "flagship".
JohnT posted 06-13-2001 12:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for JohnT  Send Email to JohnT

Here's one place that sells it. I personally have liked Sikkens Cetol both on my whaler and on several other marine projects I have built (paddle/gaff, oars). West Marine also stocks captain's varnish and Cetol. I think I've even seen marine varnish at Wal-Mart, but it wasn't Z-Spar.

Good Luck!

lhg posted 06-13-2001 02:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
I think any good paste paint stripper will work. I get Z Spar Flagship varnish at Boat US. It has six times the amount of UV inhibitors as Z-Spars' popular "Captains Varnish".

Everybody has their brands that they like in varnish, but I have tried a lot of them over the years, and like this the best. Purely a personal choice, but with any, UV protection is important. I am not a fan of the artificial coatings like Cetol, mostly because of the brownish-orange color.

Bullbay posted 06-14-2001 02:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bullbay  Send Email to Bullbay     
I bought a new RPS that had been in storage at Georgetown Marine and sold my old one to Maria in Puerto Rico. My old RPS was teak, but the new one appears to be Mahogany. I cleaned all teak and sanded the new seat and finished with Cetol and it looks great.
lhg posted 06-14-2001 03:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Bullbay - if your seatback is mahogany, it's probably from a Newport. I think there was a difference in the seats used on the two models.
dscew posted 06-14-2001 04:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for dscew    
I have a 74 BW Katama, and the RPS back is mahogany. So is the rest of the wood (locker cover, side rails, and dash panels).

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