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Outrage18 posted 06-18-2001 04:26 PM ET (US)
Can anyone tell me the easiest way to snake wire from the console, under the floor to the transom. I have an outrage 18.
I just bought a fishfinder and need to do this.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
-PL
reelescape1 posted 06-18-2001 04:56 PM ET (US)
There should be a small rope already left in the tunnel for this. If not, tie a new one to something already there, pull it through, leave one in there for future use....just be sure its long enough.
Outrage18 posted 06-18-2001 05:07 PM ET (US)
Thanks I will loook for one tonight.
I havent ever really looked at it yet.
I hopefully its easier than expected.
-Paul
Ferdinando posted 06-18-2001 06:11 PM ET (US)
Paul:
Another way to get thru the tunnel without to much work is to tie a fishing line to
the end of a tape measure and push the tape measure thru the tunnel, grab the line at the other end and pull thru anything you want.
Fred
triblet posted 06-18-2001 06:17 PM ET (US)
Get an electrician's conduit fish in the
electical department of any decent hardware
store.
Chuck
lhg posted 06-18-2001 06:58 PM ET (US)
In the Outrage models, transducer cords should be kept away from engine cables in the tunnel.
In an 18, they do have to go into the tunnel from the console, but only for a short distance until you hit the side trough over to the starboard gunwale. The sonar/gps cables should be run though this, and up to the underside of the gunwale, then back to the transom. Same for bilge pump wiring.
As a general principle, whenever you pull something out of a tunnel, tape a cord to it and pull the cord in. Then use that to pull the new item in. Like mentioned, always leave a cord in the tunnel for the next time.
lhg posted 06-18-2001 07:03 PM ET (US)
Further to the above, you can also run cables out of the console to the port gunwale, clearly keeping these away from possible engine cable interference. Open up the deck hatches and port side floor cover, and run cables across top of gas tank to get to the side panel where the fuel fill is.
Outrage18 posted 06-18-2001 08:26 PM ET (US)
LHG-
Why cant I run the cables with the others?
Do I get some sort of interference?(SP?)
Please explain.
Much Thanks.
-Paul
jward posted 06-19-2001 10:25 AM ET (US)
My 20 outrage did not have a rope in the tunnel so I used a garden hose with a straight brass spray fitting on it to slide through the tunnel. When the hose started to flex I pressurized the hose with water and was able to push it through. Once through I tied a nylon rope to the hose, duct tapped the knot to make it stick up less and pulled the hose back out leaving the rope in place.
triblet posted 06-19-2001 02:04 PM ET (US)
jward, you get the Neat Trick of the Month
award.
Chuck
jimh posted 06-20-2001 08:45 AM ET (US)
I removed some teak cabinetry to get better access to the interior of the helm console and to permit me to re-wire it.
I found the tunnel was full of debris left there by the "marine technicians" who had rigged the boat at the dealer.
There were the cut-off remains of dozens of ty-wraps, odd pieces of plastic wrapping, and general dirt and grunge retained by the debris.
I am thinking about blowing a stream of soapy water down there to see what else comes out the far end!
Bigshot posted 06-20-2001 11:41 AM ET (US)
You wil be amazed at the crud that comes out. Leaves turn to a dirt like substance and it is way gross. A hose will do wonders with clearing it out but if you ever get the chance to remove the Whole plate & clean it(like on a 15 CC) do it.
Whaletosh posted 06-20-2001 03:46 PM ET (US)
Outrage18,
Yes you could possibly get some electrical noise inducted from the engine cable into your sonar, GPS, VHF antenna, etc cables. This would show up as black flecks on you sonar screen, degraded GPS performance, and noise on you VHF.
As Larry states, keeping the electronics wires seperated, from the engine cables when possible is the best way to prevent the problem.
Sean

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Author	Topic: Snaking Wires Under Floor
Outrage18	posted 06-18-2001 04:26 PM ET (US) Can anyone tell me the easiest way to snake wire from the console, under the floor to the transom. I have an outrage 18. I just bought a fishfinder and need to do this. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -PL
reelescape1	posted 06-18-2001 04:56 PM ET (US) There should be a small rope already left in the tunnel for this. If not, tie a new one to something already there, pull it through, leave one in there for future use....just be sure its long enough.
Outrage18	posted 06-18-2001 05:07 PM ET (US) Thanks I will loook for one tonight. I havent ever really looked at it yet. I hopefully its easier than expected. -Paul
Ferdinando	posted 06-18-2001 06:11 PM ET (US) Paul: Another way to get thru the tunnel without to much work is to tie a fishing line to the end of a tape measure and push the tape measure thru the tunnel, grab the line at the other end and pull thru anything you want. Fred
triblet	posted 06-18-2001 06:17 PM ET (US) Get an electrician's conduit fish in the electical department of any decent hardware store. Chuck
lhg	posted 06-18-2001 06:58 PM ET (US) In the Outrage models, transducer cords should be kept away from engine cables in the tunnel. In an 18, they do have to go into the tunnel from the console, but only for a short distance until you hit the side trough over to the starboard gunwale. The sonar/gps cables should be run though this, and up to the underside of the gunwale, then back to the transom. Same for bilge pump wiring. As a general principle, whenever you pull something out of a tunnel, tape a cord to it and pull the cord in. Then use that to pull the new item in. Like mentioned, always leave a cord in the tunnel for the next time.
lhg	posted 06-18-2001 07:03 PM ET (US) Further to the above, you can also run cables out of the console to the port gunwale, clearly keeping these away from possible engine cable interference. Open up the deck hatches and port side floor cover, and run cables across top of gas tank to get to the side panel where the fuel fill is.
Outrage18	posted 06-18-2001 08:26 PM ET (US) LHG- Why cant I run the cables with the others? Do I get some sort of interference?(SP?) Please explain. Much Thanks. -Paul
jward	posted 06-19-2001 10:25 AM ET (US) My 20 outrage did not have a rope in the tunnel so I used a garden hose with a straight brass spray fitting on it to slide through the tunnel. When the hose started to flex I pressurized the hose with water and was able to push it through. Once through I tied a nylon rope to the hose, duct tapped the knot to make it stick up less and pulled the hose back out leaving the rope in place.
triblet	posted 06-19-2001 02:04 PM ET (US) jward, you get the Neat Trick of the Month award. Chuck
jimh	posted 06-20-2001 08:45 AM ET (US) I removed some teak cabinetry to get better access to the interior of the helm console and to permit me to re-wire it. I found the tunnel was full of debris left there by the "marine technicians" who had rigged the boat at the dealer. There were the cut-off remains of dozens of ty-wraps, odd pieces of plastic wrapping, and general dirt and grunge retained by the debris. I am thinking about blowing a stream of soapy water down there to see what else comes out the far end!
Bigshot	posted 06-20-2001 11:41 AM ET (US) You wil be amazed at the crud that comes out. Leaves turn to a dirt like substance and it is way gross. A hose will do wonders with clearing it out but if you ever get the chance to remove the Whole plate & clean it(like on a 15 CC) do it.
Whaletosh	posted 06-20-2001 03:46 PM ET (US) Outrage18, Yes you could possibly get some electrical noise inducted from the engine cable into your sonar, GPS, VHF antenna, etc cables. This would show up as black flecks on you sonar screen, degraded GPS performance, and noise on you VHF. As Larry states, keeping the electronics wires seperated, from the engine cables when possible is the best way to prevent the problem. Sean