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Chesapeake posted 07-20-2001 11:44 AM ET (US)   Profile for Chesapeake   Send Email to Chesapeake  
Has anyone done this? I was thinking about mounting a removeable pedestal post / seat on the hatch cover of the boat.

I know this sounds a bit crazy, but here is what I was thinking. Make an extra hatch cover of ply. Mount a plate to the top to accept the post. Concern is leaning against the post, resulting in a 3/4 gainer from the pike position down to the deck... further resulting in a broken neck.

So I thought a solution might be to bolt a piece of beam to the underside of the hatch cover. The beam would need to be shaped to butt up against the walls of hatch so that it prevented the cover and seat from flipping off of the bow deck.

Whaddya think? Any other ideas?

Bob

where2 posted 07-20-2001 05:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
My 15' Sport came with one of the removable pedestal / post seat bases mounted right where you propose. It worked for his bass fishing endeavors. If your deck hatch is attached with hinges, I can't imagine it would be much more unsafe than mine... The previous owner did warn me NOT to leave those seats, or the posts in when underway or trailering, though!
Chesapeake posted 07-20-2001 05:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chesapeake  Send Email to Chesapeake     
The hatch is comparatively small on the old Nauset vintage boats AND they were no attached by hinges. So I am trying to be creative. And I would want to leave it in position while running.

Thanks for responding Where2.

Dick posted 07-20-2001 08:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
I can't see a problem in leaving the seat in place if you use the same mounting system as they do on bass boats. I would want the hatch securly attached to the hull though.
Mike posted 07-20-2001 10:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mike  Send Email to Mike     
Bob: As for other ideas, if you can find one of the brackets used to mount a pedestal seat against the rear wall of the anchor locker, they work great. My Striper 15 came with one. The Striper 17 had them as well, and I would guess that the 17's anchor locker would be similar to that on the Montauk. As for strength and durability, I have used this setup in the same boat for 19 years, and for the first twelve of those years I weighed 300+ pounds. I am now a svelte 245, which is still a pretty good test.
Chesapeake posted 07-23-2001 06:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chesapeake  Send Email to Chesapeake     
Mike: I don't recall having seen the type of mount you are speaking of. Is it mounted to the inside of the hatch or the outside (facing the center console). I assume you just through bolt through the glass?
gunnelgrabber posted 07-23-2001 10:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for gunnelgrabber  Send Email to gunnelgrabber     
mike& chesapeake,...i've also wondered about the pedestal seat mount on the vertical bulkhead of the anchor locker. why don't you see that setup for sale anywhere??? ( mike's testimonial proves that they work ) any ideas on it?..thanks...lm
gregwhaler posted 07-31-2001 05:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for gregwhaler  Send Email to gregwhaler     
I've been trying to locate one of those mounts for the longest time, can't find anyone that sells them. Outboard Motor Shop in Alameda offered to make me one for $350.
Sawgrass posted 08-01-2001 11:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sawgrass  Send Email to Sawgrass     
The OEM of the "HI-RISE CHAIR MOUNT" was PICK INSTRUMENT PRODS. Last year I found enough of the manufacturer's label on my 1980 15' to locate the company. I passed this information to a post/request on the forum. Later, the grateful poster informed me that they acquired the last mount from the company. Sorry.... It may be a long shot, but you may contact the company for dealers who may have stocked this part or try running some "wanted" classifieds or check eBay. I have seen a few, although not complete units on eBay. The mount consists of the base bracket that mounts to the hatch wall utilizing a 15 degree(?) finished mahogany wedge, a steel backer plate and 4 thru-wall bolts, the pedestal shaft w/nylon anti-friction sleeve and the seat mounting base. As mentioned before, this is a very sturdy set-up. If you can not locate an original, I would suggest having a SS angle bracket made utilizing one of the newer pin/post receivers and mount this to your hatch wall with a backing plate.

PICK INSTRUMENT PRODUCTS
713-672-1686
102 Eastway St.
Galena Park, TX 77547

Good luck!
Rick Daigle

gunnelgrabber posted 08-01-2001 11:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for gunnelgrabber  Send Email to gunnelgrabber     
sawgrass,....thanks for that information...lm
Sawgrass posted 08-03-2001 09:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sawgrass  Send Email to Sawgrass     
I was looking through some of the paper work that came with my 1980 15' and found the Boston Whaler installation instructions, schematic and parts list for the "FORWARD PEDESTAL SEAT KIT 15025300". Perhaps this part # would help anyone trying to locate an orginal seat kit from a dealer.

Rick

Mike posted 08-03-2001 11:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mike  Send Email to Mike     
The pedestal seat which came as original equipment on my Striper 15 is mounted on the outside of the vertical wall at the rear of the anchor locker. It is bolted through (going from inside to outside) a fiberglass backing plate, the anchor locker wall, a wedge-shaped wooden (mahogany?)insert which permits the pedestal seat bracket to hold the pedestal at a true vertical. The bracket itself is a split sleeve with a compression bolt. The seat pedestal is a straight pipe which fits inside the sleeve.
Works fine.
JBCornwell posted 09-08-2001 10:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
This looks like an opportunity for some small foundry or even welding shop. Suppose I could design a mount to use popular 3/4" pin post seat pedestals and have a finished, yatchy appearance and get 50 or 100 made.

My vision would have this bolt through the aft wall of the front locker using an appropriate wedge insert for the boat involved (7 degrees for a modern Montauk, for example, but less for a 13').

How many takers would I have at a pro rata share of the project cost?

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

FISHNFF posted 09-09-2001 01:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for FISHNFF  Send Email to FISHNFF     
Her's how I solved the bow pedestal seat problem. When I purchased my Alert bare hull, it came with a Starboard rear bench seat reinforced with 2 SS tubes running lengthwise and a SS center floor support. This was removed and stored away when my Montauk console was installed. I have since this seat forward as an extension of the front deck. I used two SS table brackets, bases through bolted to the front anchor locker, and the mounts to the bench, which was shaved to fit the forwardmost curvature of the hull lip. A pedestal seat on a 3/4" pin mount and a bow depthfinder is mounted when I fish bass with my bow trolling motor. When I go offshore it all comes off except for the SS mounting brackets. This is solid(no flex), durable(all SS and Starboard)and easily removeable deck extension.
Kelly posted 09-10-2001 10:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Kelly  Send Email to Kelly     
Birdsall Marine has a bow mounted leading post. It is shown at the location below with a horizontal mount, but the same page indicates that they have a vertical mount. You might contact them. Other members on the forum have indicated that they make a good product. Kelly

http://birdsallmarine.com/seatbow.html

mooch posted 09-11-2001 03:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for mooch  Send Email to mooch     
I have the oem seat and mount as described. It came on my 87 Montauk. I have no use for it. If I could get a good price I might let it go. The seat is perfect, Whaler tan with brown piping. Make me an offer if interested.
Kelly
noswah posted 09-19-2001 01:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for noswah  Send Email to noswah     

Sawgrass, Many thanks for your post on buying those bases from Pick Co. in Galena Park. I have been searching the internet for the last 3 months looking for one. I bought just the base it was 85.00 but I fee it's very well made and the only way to go if you adding a seat to the bow area for fishing.
noswah posted 09-19-2001 01:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for noswah  Send Email to noswah     

If you ask for Melba at Pick Products you should be able to buy a base as they still have a few left.
JBCornwell posted 09-21-2001 06:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Pick has one "Chair Mount" for the 17' left. It includes the pedestal and seat base at $125.

Also, Mooch (see post below) agreed to sell his seat and mount assembly, complete, for $200. I Emailed him, then found and bought one from Pick before he replied.

The mount is Pick part #P2A. Call Melba at 713-672-1686.

Mooch's package is a good deal at $200. That seat (without mount) sold for more than that when new.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

Chesapeake posted 02-06-2002 07:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chesapeake  Send Email to Chesapeake     
Resurfacing this thread for those that are thinking of a pedestal seat at the anchor locker.

I called Pick industries, OEM supplier for Whaler and they still have this set-up available for $125. Unfortunately, it will not work in my Nauset (according to Chuck Bennett at Whaler) as the rear wall of the anchor locker on the light blue hulls was not sufficiently supported. This changed with the Montauk introduction, apparently.

This thread from "Sawgrass:"

The OEM of the "HI-RISE CHAIR MOUNT" was PICK INSTRUMENT PRODS. Last year I found enough of the manufacturer's label on my 1980 15' to locate the company. I passed this information to a post/request on the forum. Later, the grateful poster informed me that they acquired the last mount from the company. Sorry.... It may be a long shot, but you may contact the company for dealers who may have stocked this part or try running some "wanted" classifieds or check eBay. I have seen a few, although not complete units on eBay. The mount consists of the base bracket that mounts to the hatch wall utilizing a 15 degree(?) finished mahogany wedge, a steel backer plate and 4 thru-wall bolts, the pedestal shaft w/nylon anti-friction sleeve and the seat mounting base. As mentioned before, this is a very sturdy set-up. If you can not locate an original, I would suggest having a SS angle bracket made utilizing one of the newer pin/post receivers and mount this to your hatch wall with a backing plate.

PICK INSTRUMENT PRODUCTS
713-672-1686
102 Eastway St.
Galena Park, TX 77547
Good luck!
Rick Daigle

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