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Samars posted 07-24-2001 07:25 AM ET (US)   Profile for Samars   Send Email to Samars  
Continuing the restoration of my 67, 13. All the wood is finished...the original 25 Evinrude has it's appointment for work in the next few weeks. My question is much can one sand the inside and out and still maintain the look...This may not have a simple answer...but can I sand all the old stickers off and not do damage to the boat? I have not atempted more than a light rub...but I know to get the old numbers and stickers off, it will take slightly more...thanks
LarrySherman posted 07-24-2001 07:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for LarrySherman  Send Email to LarrySherman     
I think you need an adheasive release agent here. Sanding could cause damage. My gues is that you could take a sharp razor blade and score the old stickers lightly, just enough to penetrate the skin. then spray on one of 3M's adhesive removeal products, and let it sit a few hours. Then "worry" the sticker off slowly.

You might try the 3M stuff in an area where you can't see it, to make sure it won't discolor the gelcoat.

Samars posted 07-24-2001 08:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for Samars  Send Email to Samars     
Thanks Larry...the stickers have been on for some time...a couple at least 20 years. I have carefully gotten as much of the stickers off and now I am left with an almost imprint in the sides of the boat...
Bigshot posted 07-24-2001 09:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Wet sand if anything. I know what you are saying and a wetsand might do it. try 600 or 1000 grit. New decals are always on E-bay.
Samars posted 07-24-2001 10:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for Samars  Send Email to Samars     
Thanks Bigshot...there seems to be so much to learn...I will definitly wet keeps the dust there any thing else I'll need to do after...wax or buff perhaps? I have done some very light wet sanding on the interior blue...and then put a wax came out nice although it seemed I could have sanded more...I just need to be very careful (tape edges)...

The BW decals are about the only thing still in tact although faded and yes I have seen the decals on E-Bay...thank you.

Makonut posted 07-24-2001 10:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for Makonut  Send Email to Makonut     
to get the numbers and logo off is fairly ez...2 ways that I know of.. first is a heat gun used by the pros at the marina..but be CAREFUL! Too much heat will release the laminate...the other way is a generic "peel-off" sold by BoatUS. Both of these methods will release the glue and bubble the letters. You can follow thru with any light chemical that disolves the Goop. I try to stay away from any sandpaper on the gel coat

good luck..Jer

good luck

Bigshot posted 07-24-2001 10:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I would do a 1000 grit wetsand. Then a polish compound(green can #7 dupont). Then a swirl remover like aurora 3000 or a 3m product. Then a couple coats of wax. No need to tape edges on glass. It is not paint. You should not be removing that much or using that much pressure. If it does not look they way you want it after polish compound, more sanding. Do not go too crazy because she is just gonna fade again unless garaged and kept after. I use rubbing or polishing compound to remove the sticker crap, also removes any scratches from the razor blade. Just did my Montauk and it came out mint. Waiting on my seat from Whalertim and I am in business.
Tom W Clark posted 07-24-2001 11:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     

Just to clarify: You are trying to make the "shadow" of the old registration numbers disappear. When the old numbers were in place the gelcoat was protected by them and the surrounding gelcoat faded and oxidized and somewhat eroded away and now you are left with the shiny and somewhat raised outline of the old numbers. Is this correct?

Follow Bigs' advice and wet sand. I would add that you should be used a "hard" block for the sandpaper and not just your hand or some squishy pad. The reason is that a hard block will span the high points (the letter/numbers) without abrading the valleys between them. You could use a block of wood that is flat or go to an automotive paint and supply house and but a "long board".

Remember, the first, and most important, thing you are trying to do is to get the "shadows" to look like the rest of the hull. If the rest of the hull is not perfectly shiny then don't try to get the area of the old registration numbers all shiny either. Once everything is uniform then you can decide if you really want to sand/buff out the whole hull.

Samars posted 07-24-2001 06:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Samars  Send Email to Samars     
Great information all ! ! and Tom you are correct...the old letters/numbers is what I am trying to get rid off...or at least make the whole thing look uniform...I have a sanding block will attempt it from that direction (wet sand). Rubbing compond will do the will a coat or two of wax.
And unless the wife gives up her garage space then the BW is out in the back...thanks again all

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