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Mullet posted 08-19-2001 05:21 PM ET (US)   Profile for Mullet   Send Email to Mullet  
Just bought a orbital buffer. Am going to compoud and polish 1971 whaler in relatively good shape. What compound and what polish? I realize that I could look back thru some old posts but humor me, I'm lazy. Thanks in advance.
kingfish posted 08-19-2001 06:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Mullet-

This topic has been discussed numerous times, and there are probably three or four combinations that are considered, depending upon whose opinion you get, to be top of the line.

If you really are too lazy to search, and hope that someone else won't be too lazy to bail you out, why don't you at least re-post your question under a topic title that reflects the question, so once the thread is in the archives, the information in it can be found again by others who aren't too lazy to search, by perusing topic titles?

Respectfully,

kingfish

Mullet posted 08-19-2001 06:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mullet  Send Email to Mullet     
So sorry about the way I posted. Still learning the etiquette. Just asking a question.
ValkariaKid posted 08-19-2001 06:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for ValkariaKid  Send Email to ValkariaKid     
Geez Kingfish! Lighten up!

Hey Mullet-

I like the 3M Super Duty Rubbing Compound to start out with only if the gelcoat is very dry and chalky. The Super Duty will leave a nice shiny finish. Just be careful to keep the pad moving so you don't burn the finish, as this compound is pretty abrasive. I would then follow up with 3M's Imperial hand glaze. This compound has the consistency of milk, and is used primarily as a haze or swirl mark remover. The Imperial hand glaze may be a bit overkill, but the results are nice.

I also just tried 3M's marine fiberglass cleaner & wax with pretty good results.

Of course whichever path you follow you would still have to follow it up with a couple of coats of a high quality wax.

Hope this helps!

-Paul

Mullet posted 08-19-2001 07:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mullet  Send Email to Mullet     
Gelcoat isn't dry and chalky. I'll just skip the first step and follow your instructions. Thanks.
Dick posted 08-19-2001 08:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
I just picked up a 1988 13' project boat. It had been setting out in the elements for who knows how many years and is heavily oxidized. I tried a spot with 3Ms #09005 fiberglass restorer and wax, looked like new.
kingfish posted 08-19-2001 08:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Didn't mean to be "abrasive" ;-)

There is a wealth of knowledge in the archives of this forum though, and this question as well as many other "bread-and-butter" topics are covered extensively, some times repeatedly. If you are really interested in learning from the pros (I'm not one of them; I'm just a slow learner), you'll do best by researching what's been covered, then asking about what is still unclear.

One way you can do that is by posting your question as a reply to the thread that you find most relevent (especially if the topic title is germain); that will bring it up on top of that particular section where it will be noticed.

And if you do choose to start a new thread on any topic, it is most helpful to those of us who want to help as well as those who may search the archives in the future, if you will choose a title that is reflective of your topic.

Still respectfully, and a little repetatively-

kingfish

LarrySherman posted 08-19-2001 09:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for LarrySherman  Send Email to LarrySherman     
Kingfish is right on the money. Too lazy is a poor excuse. Read recent posts in the META-FORUM. We each have put EFFORT into the site to make it work:

If you want a question answered, do the research first. As kingfish said, if your close, but still dont have a cigar, find the most revelant thred and post a reply.

This not only helps you, but also JimH, but keeping relevant content in a single thread.

Thanks, Larry

Mullet posted 08-19-2001 09:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mullet  Send Email to Mullet     
Just asking a question with a tad bit of humor. I know Whaler people are a breed all of their own just didn't know it was quite this elitist. Sorry I wasted your time. Outta here!
Tsuriki BW posted 08-19-2001 09:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Mullet

Be sure to change the "show topics" to "the last 2 years". Hit "GO". Then go to edit on your browser and select "find". Type the word you want and look until you find a related thread. Continue until you the find the most related. You may have to try different words as the "find" on your browser will only pick up titles, not text within the title. That is why choosing the words for your thread title is important.

If you don't get your complete answer, post a "reply question" to the most related thread. Like the others said, this will bring the post up to the top.

But do continue to post.

Good Luck

Tsuriki

Tsuriki BW posted 08-19-2001 09:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
"One of the earliest and most primary tenets of conflict avoidance is the formal agreement by both/all parties to conduct discourse and contact in an atmosphere of mutual professional respect. I know it works in my business, and it is my observation that it works in most places and circumstances."
kingfish posted 08-19-2001 09:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
The exception proves the rule??
LarrySherman posted 08-19-2001 10:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for LarrySherman  Send Email to LarrySherman     
Elitist? I've never been called that before. I think you caught us on a bad day. Again, I refer you tho the Meta-Forum.

Hope you come back, Larry

ValkariaKid posted 08-20-2001 12:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for ValkariaKid  Send Email to ValkariaKid     
Man.. you guys are rough!

Hey LAZY Larry...

After a quick search I found at least FIVE separate instances where you posted questions that were covered in detail in prior posts! Did you do a search before you posted?
After all Lazy Larry...
"Too lazy is a poor excuse."
"We each have put EFFORT into the site to make it work"
"If you want a question answered, do the research first."

I just thought your contribution was funny.

-Paul

B Bear posted 08-20-2001 09:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for B Bear  Send Email to B Bear     
I believe it is time for a search engine to be considered for this site.

It is very hard to find relevant information in the archives when:

1) Topic titles are vague.
2) Transition in the subject with in the thread.
3) The shear volume of past posts.

For now everyone can help by:

1) Making the topic title more concise as to reflect the contents.
2) By keeping the thread on topic.

I will resurrect the search thread in the META forum.
Bear

Mullet posted 08-20-2001 09:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mullet  Send Email to Mullet     
I am back long enough to apologize. I thought I would post a quick question, get and quick answer or two and be on my way. Didn't mean to stir things up. Won't bother you guys again.
LarrySherman posted 08-20-2001 10:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for LarrySherman  Send Email to LarrySherman     
Paul,

You are right, I am guilty as charged.

I was asked sometime back by another forum member to look through the old threads too, and to stop posting questions without having looked through the history first. I was also slightly offended at the time, as Mullett obviously was. After I had calmed down, I realized that using the forum that way made sense, because yould keep infomation together.

I do try to use the forum that was now.

And I will not respond to your sophmoric taunting.

kingfish posted 08-20-2001 10:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Mullet-

Your apology was not necessary - to offer one is a class act, though.

I hope you understand the point that I was trying to make, and I hope you'll continue to add to the forum. My apologies to you sir, if I seemed unnecessarily abrupt.

kingfish

Mullet posted 08-20-2001 11:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mullet  Send Email to Mullet     
You are kind. I did get my back up and was going to take my Whaler and go home but you guys are just too much fun. Will try relevancy, accuracy, and proper procedure in the future.
Jolly J posted 10-08-2001 04:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jolly J  Send Email to Jolly J     
Thanks for the info on how to search the forums. I have been struggling/muddling through them one at a time until I finally find what I need or get discouraged and quit. Sorry that Mullet had to be submitted to the harassment :) but I'm glad it was him and not me.
Guess that't the price we have to pay for being "newbies".
Taylor posted 10-08-2001 09:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
You know... I spent about 45 minutes looking for the definitive gelcoat resurection posting and I had only limited success. Its not all that obvious.

I found the following

'Compound and Wax' http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000839.html

'best compound/wax for gelcoat?' http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000713.html

'Blue gelcoat renewal - WOW!!!!!' http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000680.html

But I could not find "Making Your Whaler Look Like New". Has it aged out?

I would not mind seeing a summary of all these, posted with a reasonable topic line like "Gelcoat rubbing, buffing and waxing". I would have done it if I could have just found that mythical post from lhg not the link refered to by this comment:

'JimH has posted a link to "Making Your Whaler Look Like New" on the main, first page of this forum right above the title block-'


What am I missing?

Taylor posted 10-08-2001 09:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
You know... I spent about 45 minutes looking for the definitive gelcoat resurection posting and I had only limited success. Its not all that obvious.

I found the following

'Compound and Wax' http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000839.html

'best compound/wax for gelcoat?' http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000713.html

'Blue gelcoat renewal - WOW!!!!!' http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000680.html

But I could not find "Making Your Whaler Look Like New". Has it aged out?

I would not mind seeing a summary of all these, posted with a reasonable topic line like "Gelcoat rubbing, buffing and waxing". I would have done it if I could have just found that mythical post from lhg not the link refered to by this comment:

'JimH has posted a link to "Making Your Whaler Look Like New" on the main, first page of this forum right above the title block-'


What am I missing? (besides the url encoding in my first try :)

Jim Bennett posted 10-08-2001 09:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jim Bennett  Send Email to Jim Bennett     
Thought I would put in my $.02.
I am not intending to be especially critical of Mullet and his post. I believe he is an active and useful contributor to the site. His post in question, however, does provide a good example of what not to do. The most important aspect of this website is that it can provide useful and useable information BUT only if it is made accessible by those who want it. This behooves all of us to title our posts in such a way that subsequent seekers can benefit from our current questions and answers. All it takes is a little forethought when one posts a new topic to title the post so that it becomes readily accessible. Although we do not currently have a search engine, it is possible to find info using the "Find" procedure that Tsuriki BW keeps advocating. It is cumbersome but it does WORK. Although jimh has said he is working on a search engine for this site, I don't think we should make that a burden for him. I think it is sensible procedure when making a post that the author makes sure that his title includes his boat type and/or the SPECIFIC problem of concern. This is particularly true in the Repairs/Mod category and would make life easier for the author as well as subsequent searchers.
1987GTX posted 10-17-2001 03:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for 1987GTX  Send Email to 1987GTX     

to the poster of the question, i'd say: BW owners aren't elitist, the people who were rude to you are simply boorish, rude people who happen to own BW's. overall, i've found BW owners to be wonderful folks who willingly share their knowledge and experiences with others at the drop of a hat.

to you paragons of knowledge who were so rough on the guy because he simply wanted an answer, rather than learning search/querying techniques particular to this site (like asking someone for the correct time and having them tell you how to build the watch so that you'd know the answer yourself), i'd say: remember your response to him the next time YOU ask anyone a question where you might be capable of locating the information yourself if given enough time or training on a subject.

lastly, whoever suggested a better search capability for this site, i agree with you. a wonderful example of what a powerful, user supported product-centric website community can be is located @ http://www.nsxprime.com. among the many user-friendly goodies you'll find over there are a FAQ where topics like this are easily researched. and for those times when the topic has been covered ad naseum and thus catalogued, we have the "FAQNAZI" who will gladly point you to the proper link.

Bigshot posted 10-17-2001 04:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
DUCK!
kingfish posted 10-17-2001 05:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Who was that masked man?

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